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Murray vs Abraham

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Fri 20 Nov 2015, 11:03 am

Couldn't see any mention of this fight.

Can Murray finally win a world title at his 4th attempt? If he does it'll need to be via KO, and even though he's a much bigger man than Abraham, his KO ratio is poor and I suspect he will lack power at SMW, certainly at world level. Abraham is a tough SOB and it'll be hard to get him out there.

Should be a decent scrap. I'm not a huge Murray fan but I can't fault his efforts. If he doesn't win here then he's probably done at world level.

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Post by Coxy001 Fri 20 Nov 2015, 11:37 am

'Simply' follow the Froch blueprint of jabbing him and keep moving around/changing the distance. If he stands infront of AA it will make things tough.

Worry I have is AA walking him down and then through him. Has to box box box, move move move. He's easy to befuddle.

Murray by UD for me... Certainly won't be having a bet on it though as he is prone to wading in and not using his noggin.

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Post by AZZJ44 Fri 20 Nov 2015, 12:10 pm

Murray won't be getting the decision over there just as Abesy wouldn't be getting one over here.


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Post by spencerclarke Fri 20 Nov 2015, 12:35 pm

Murray on points for me. I can see him making it too clear for ropey judging, I just feel Abraham's time is done.

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Post by Mr Bounce Fri 20 Nov 2015, 12:37 pm

Murray is too feather fisted to put a dent in Abraham. I reckon Murray will outbox him with ease and lose a UD.

It's going to be like Sven Ottke all over again.

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Post by Group Cpt Lionel Mandrake Fri 20 Nov 2015, 1:48 pm

I reckon Murray will outbox him with ease and lose a UD.

Yeah, that^

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Post by Rodney Fri 20 Nov 2015, 1:55 pm

Going for Abraham unfortunately to win on points or late stoppage - Murrays lack of power wont deter Abraham and remember watching a poorer version of Abraham - Sergey Khomitsky give Murray fits, I can only see one winner.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Fri 20 Nov 2015, 2:34 pm

Murray by decision in complete stinker...

More interested in Crolla..

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Post by Dipper Brown Fri 20 Nov 2015, 3:13 pm

Abraham. Just can't see Murray getting over the line and getting a win in a world championship fight. Nearly man, for me.

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Post by Guest Fri 20 Nov 2015, 4:01 pm

If Murray can go 11 rounds with GGG then unless the stuffing's been knocked out of him, this one should go to points. Go to respect AA's power but not be scared of it. Murrays got to win rounds clearly as anything close is like to go to Abraham. Anything's possible but I can see Arthur stealing this down the home stretch

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Post by Herman Jaeger Fri 20 Nov 2015, 4:46 pm

Winner could face Gilberto Ramirez, who's considered the best prospect in Mexico, in next fight:

http://www.boxingscene.com/ramirez-ill-bigger-star-better-boxer-canelo--98364


Here's Ramirez sparring Canelo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDI-2jqUDFs


I think super middleweight is a division to follow the next couple of years.

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Post by Happytravelling Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:49 pm

Murray by decision.

Abraham at SMW is a shadow of the fighter he was at MW. If he can go the distance with Smigger and it be close, Murray should win.

Murray still big at SMW, he was massive at MW. His last 3 fights has been ko wins but, unless AA has deteriorated further, he shouldn't get the ko.

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Post by Lance Fri 20 Nov 2015, 7:52 pm

Think Hearn might try to secure some favourable judging. Murray against DeGale unification sounds good to him. Think Murray will get SD

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Post by Hands Of Stone Sat 21 Nov 2015, 12:28 pm

Abraham at middleweight as 29-0 with 23 KOs, 79% ko
Abraham at 168 is 14-4 6 KOs, 43% ko

With every year he's getting older hes throwing less and less and getting hit more and more, if murray can't win this then there isn't anything left for him to do in the sport.

Murray isn't anything special but he's rugged, strong and a workhorse. He may not have had a chin check at 168 but it took GGG 11 rounds to stop him so I can't see him being stopped.

Should outwork him but needs to stop AAs jab, if he does that he will deserve the win but probably wont get it

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Post by Guest Sun 22 Nov 2015, 12:21 pm

DAVE667 wrote:If Murray can go 11 rounds with GGG then unless the stuffing's been knocked out of him, this one should go to points. Go to respect AA's power but not be scared of it. Murrays got to win rounds clearly as anything close is like to go to Abraham. Anything's possible but I can see Arthur stealing this down the home stretch
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