1872 Cup 2015, Round 2: Glasgow v Edinburgh

First topic message reminder :



It's that time again. The oldest thing in world rugby. Seen here holding the 1872 Cup:



The social club versus the members-only golf club, the unwashed versus the exfoliators, the heroin users versus the social drinkers, the chips & cheese versus the salt & sauce, the ramraiders versus the online bank hackers, the knock-off Rolecks versus the original Pateks, the Gregg's versus the Pain Quotidien and the aggressive cardiac arrest versus the stress-related work sign-off for a fortnight.

***************************

                 

Glasgow Warriors v Edinburgh Rugby
Saturday 2nd January 2016
At Scotstoun Stadium, 5.15pm.
Live on Sky Sports

Referee: Peter Fitzgibbon (IRFU, 66th competition game)
Assistant Referees: Lloyd Linton, Graeme Wells (both SRU)
Citing Commissioner: John Montgomery (SRU)
TMO: Jim Yuille (SRU)

C. Past Winners

2007-2008: Glasgow Warriors - Aggregate Score: 54–49

2008-2009: Edinburgh Rugby - Aggregate Score: 59-31

2009-2010: Glasgow Warriors - Aggregate Score: 47-27

2010-2011: Glasgow Warriors - Aggregate Score: 47-46

2011-2012: Glasgow Warriors - Aggregate Score: 40-35

2012-2013: Glasgow Warriors - Aggregate Score: 44-31

2013-2014: Glasgow Warriors - Aggregate Score: 57-50

2014-2015: Edinburgh Rugby - Aggregate Score: 26-24

2015: Edinburgh rugby 23 - Glasgow 11

D. Teams

Glasgow Warriors

Stuart Hogg, Taqele Naiyaravoro, Mark Bennett, Peter Horne, Sean Lamont, Duncan Weir, Ali Price; Gordon Reid, Fraser Brown, Zander Fagerson, Greg Peterson, Jonny Gray (captain), Ryan Wilson, Chris Fusaro, Josh Strauss.

Replacements: Shalva Mamukashvili, Ryan Grant, Sila Puafisi, Leone Nakarawa, Hugh Blake; Grayson Hart, Peter Murchie, Lee Jones.

Edinburgh Rugby

Jack Cuthbert, Dougie Fife, Michael Allen, Matt Scott, Damien Hoyland, Phil Burleigh, Sam Hidalgo-Clyne; Rory Sutherland, Ross Ford, WP Nel, Anton Bresler, Ben Toolis, Mike Coman (captain), John Hardie, Cornell Du Preez.

Replacements: Neil Cochrane, Allan Dell, John Andress, Alex Toolis, Jamie Ritchie, Sean Kennedy, Greig Tonks, Andries Strauss.

VinceWLB wrote:Why didn't Glasgow chose to play it at the old Firhill or even Hampden?

Was unplayable on Boxing Day as Partick Thistle vs St Johnstone was postponed.

The pitch at Firhill used to be even worse than Scotstoun, so I doubt that was ever an option.

Was it ever realistic to get another stadium, not set up for rugby, ready to go over a new year weekend, even assuming that their surfaces were able to be played.

It is not just the pitch but the crowd considerations, the stewarding, the police, local residents etc. I don't imagine that many people involved in those places would even be at work at this stage on New Years Eve

Eejit wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:Why didn't Glasgow chose to play it at the old Firhill or even Hampden?

Was unplayable on Boxing Day as Partick Thistle vs St Johnstone was postponed.

I think the two standby 'home' pitches for Glasgow are Rugby Park, Kilmarnock; and Broadwood at Cumbernauld. Both are 3/4G artificial pitched. However both have scheduled football matches on Saturday.

I would be very surprised if Firhill would (a) be playable, or (b) be available. Even if there were no match scheduled, the likely damage to the surface from a rugby match which had not been prepared for would probably put the owners off from letting it out.

As for Ibrox / Parkhead, I don't think they would be in the running. Far too expensive if nothing else.

Apparently Glasgow are going to do all they can to make it feel like a home game - I can set some cars on fire and bus in a load of hookers from Leith if that helps the weedge feel more at home?

RDW_Scotland wrote:Apparently Glasgow are going to do all they can to make it feel like a home game - I can set some cars on fire and bus in a load of hookers from Leith if that helps the weedge feel more at home?

might bring back bad memories for Will Helu youll have had your tea then? after he had his car set on fire in like his first week in Edinburgh...

Due to the 1872 Scottish Cup fixture being moved from Scotstoun to BT Murrayfield this Saturday (2 January), after the Scotstoun pitch was deemed unplayable, the club can confirm the following details:

- The game at BT Murrayfield will kick-off at 5.15pm on Saturday 2 January

- All tickets for the fixture at Scotstoun will be valid for the game at BT Murrayfield

- At this time no additional tickets are available but a limited number of tickets may become available tomorrow and Glasgow Warriors supporters will get the first chance to purchase these...

Get there could be issues with stewarding numbers & ratios etc, and perhaps wanting to try and maintain the illusion it's a Glasgow 'home game'. But given the capacity of Murrayfield & the chance to make the best out of a weird situation would be disappointing to limit it.

That's a very disappointing decision.

We'll be lucky to get 5k there now given a lot of people won't travel

At this time no additional tickets are available but a limited number of tickets may become available tomorrow and Glasgow Warriors supporters will get the first chance to purchase these...

I'd say there will be a few spare seats alright.

SRU are kind of damned if they do and damned if they don't, because rescheduling a derby for a Six Nations weekend is pretty unpalatable too.

Edinburgh season tickets not accepted, despite the stadium being empty. Outstanding PR!

Not exactly PR genius on the extra ticket sales...

I assume it's probably hard/expensive to get enough trained staff right now hence no extra seats.

What about if you are a neutral and couldn't get a ticket for the Scotstoun leg and are now refused a ticket. Absolute terrible decision. 5k in a 67k stadium wont sound pretty and not sure Sky will be too pleased about that either. Missed opportunity to grow the game in Scotland.

That said, happy new year everyone.

Happy New Year everyone!

Will hope to grab a couple of tickets for 2nd leg. If it's a mostly empty stadium, I'll be pretty disappointed.
Lack of attendance is the reason that Murrayfield is either known as a library or as graveyard - due to that eery silence.

23k for 1st leg was amazing and should be built upon. Glasgow have 20+ Scotland players so Murrayfield should feel like home anyway.

I say throw open the doors and fill Murrayfield! 

As compensation to those that travelled, offer turkey sandwiches? Or possibly the left overs of some other tanned bird (from Stockbridge, not Leith, so she'll be organic).

Well, Mr Mesmeric, a Happy New Year to yourself and to all the usual suspects.

Or possibly the left overs of some other tanned bird (from Stockbridge, not Leith, so she'll be organic).

Thank you for setting the tone for the rest of the year. I'm glad to see that Political Correctness has not caught up with us yet. However I am disappointed that you didn't manage to work "well stuffed" into your post.

jimbopip wrote:Well, Mr Mesmeric, a Happy New Year to yourself and to all the usual suspects.

Or possibly the left overs of some other tanned bird (from Stockbridge, not Leith, so she'll be organic).

Thank you for setting the tone for the rest of the year. I'm glad to see that Political Correctness has not caught up with us yet. However I am disappointed that you didn't manage to work "well stuffed" into your post.

Happy New Year Jimbo!

Wouldn't want top put off the punters with a well-stuffed bird. Nobody likes sloppy seconds.

Now the tone has definitely been lowered sufficiently for the coming year. 

A Simply Mesmeric Try wrote:

jimbopip wrote:Well, Mr Mesmeric, a Happy New Year to yourself and to all the usual suspects.

Or possibly the left overs of some other tanned bird (from Stockbridge, not Leith, so she'll be organic).

Thank you for setting the tone for the rest of the year. I'm glad to see that Political Correctness has not caught up with us yet. However I am disappointed that you didn't manage to work "well stuffed" into your post.

Happy New Year Jimbo!

Wouldn't want top put off the punters with a well-stuffed bird. Nobody likes sloppy seconds.

Now the tone has definitely been lowered sufficiently for the coming year. 

really depends on the quality and consistency of the gravy.
As Tony Hancock once said, "At least my mother's gravy used to move."

p.s. Glasgow to win by 16. Or crash and burn spectacularly.

I shall see for myself as I've just picked up tickets for the game tomorrow. #swag

We'll there has been various things going on over the last couple of days regarding the switch to Murrayfield but ultimately there is going to be an 8000 'sell out'

Shame a bigger crowd wasn't allowed but that is a big enough number to generate a decent atmosphere. Twice what we normally get for Edinburgh games!

At least the game is being played.

It would have been great if it could have been played at Scotsoun but for those 8,000 in the stadium the atmosphere should be good enough. Even with the normal attendance, it's not too bad if you're in the middle of the stand.

Looks busy...

Batman very nearly with the heed there.

There's been more ruck penalties in 15 minutes than the entire game last week!

Dunky misses the corner flag...

Glasgow looking a lot better than last week - Edinburgh hanging on for dear life just now.

Happy belated hogmanay all.

Anyone got a link for this one please?

George Carlin wrote:Happy belated hogmanay all.

Anyone got a link for this one please?

You've got mail

Ref penalising the crap out of Edinburgh

Hardie looks like he has injured himself trying to tackle Naiyaravoro

Knock on - no try surely

Huge effort by Edinburgh to hold that out - Glasgow coujd have run riot if they'd scored there

Edinburgh hanging on in this, only just..

Glasgow playing so much better this week and really aught to be out of sight. The scrum looks so much better with Reid and Fargerson propping and they look livelier all over the pitch.

Still all to play for though, a tight game!

BigGee wrote:Glasgow playing so much better this week and really aught to be out of sight. The scrum looks so much better with Reid and Fargerson propping and they look livelier all over the pitch.

Still all to play for though, a tight game!

As well as having Gray jr and Peterson packing down behind them.

It's worth to mention though that the Embra scrum hasn't looked quite the same without Dickinson.

Rugby momentum is a strange thing though - if Edinburgh can pick up a quick try or 3 points then Glasgow's 73% possession will have counted for naught

highland_scot wrote:

George Carlin wrote:Happy belated hogmanay all.

Anyone got a link for this one please?

You've got mail

What was that from Hugh Blake

What was Hugh Blake doing??

Our lineout has really let us down

LOL at Weir's attempt at catching there

What did Hugh Blake do?

Glasgow getting so many east let offs in this game.

Just as we get in their 22 we give them easy penalties or mess up the lineout

I've only been watching this for 15 minutes and Weir has made 3 major mistakes.

Very frustrating Edinburgh performance - Glasgow should have racked up a BP by now!

Nematode wrote:What did Hugh Blake do?

Hanging around the wrong side. Think he was maybe trying to pull the tactic discussed here?!

http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-super-rugby-tactics-2013507-Mar2015/

highland_scot wrote:

Nematode wrote:What did Hugh Blake do?

Hanging around the wrong side. Think he was maybe trying to pull the tactic discussed here?!

http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-super-rugby-tactics-2013507-Mar2015/

Was that around the 40-45 min mark? Will need to have a look when the game's on Youtube

What has happened to our lineout??

6 lineouts lost is embarrassing!

WTF was Ali Price doing there?

Not really showing much by way of a range of passing.

I haven't seen it go through the hands of the Glasgow backline once.

Is Big Naka on to replace Fozzy?

Nematode wrote:

highland_scot wrote:

Nematode wrote:What did Hugh Blake do?

Hanging around the wrong side. Think he was maybe trying to pull the tactic discussed here?!

http://www.the42.ie/analysis-chiefs-super-rugby-tactics-2013507-Mar2015/

Was that around the 40-45 min mark? Will need to have a look when the game's on Youtube

They have done it again, Fitzgibbon may need to check the rules!

Hugh Blake practising the dark arts today.