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Ortiz vs Tony the Tiger thompson

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Post by Ronikara Mon 08 Feb 2016, 8:58 pm

So it's just been confirmed on sky sports that Ortiz will be fighting Toby Thompson, who has lost 3 of his last 5 fights. What happened to Ustinov? I thought Ortiz was due to face him? If Haye or Joshua had taken this fight, they would be slated for it. Just a week ago, we were all roundly criticising Haye for probably picking Malik Scott who comfortably beat Thompson. So what do you make of this fight?

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Mon 08 Feb 2016, 9:29 pm

I'm still working out how you can have an interim champion when the official one is active..

I'm not a fan of 44 year olds fighting...So I hope Ortiz retires him..

Pick Ortiz over Martin and Thompson but Fury, Josh, Haye and Wilder all beat him Imo

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Post by Happytravelling Mon 08 Feb 2016, 10:06 pm

The tiger is durable and a seasoned pro so it's not a bad match but like truss it's dubious for a 44yr old to fight a young, heavy handed prospect. The ref needs to be quick to stop this if it goes away from the tiger.

The odd fight announcement is the Helenius fight. He gave up his euro title for that? Another euro fighter.

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Post by BoxingFan88 Mon 08 Feb 2016, 10:14 pm

Got Salam Ali jessie vargas on the undercard

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Post by Ronikara Mon 08 Feb 2016, 10:16 pm

You mean Helenius against the guy wilder finished in 9 rounds? Strange fight maybe, but if Helenius can do a better job than wilder, it allows him to make noise to get a shot. Better that than a 50-50 vs Chisora.

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Post by Happytravelling Mon 08 Feb 2016, 10:55 pm

Yes, Helenius obviously believes it's a benchmarking fight. But:

1. The lad is French so eligible to fight for the euro title
2. Was always considered a bit of a weak defence

Looks like he didn't fancy a Del boy rematch.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 09 Feb 2016, 7:12 am

Two drug cheats and I'll wager there's no decent drug testing in place for this.

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Post by Ronikara Tue 09 Feb 2016, 8:50 am

When did Ortiz fail a drug test?

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Tue 09 Feb 2016, 9:39 am

Ortiz is 36 and a real talent.

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Post by hazharrison Tue 09 Feb 2016, 11:47 am

Ronikara wrote:When did Ortiz fail a drug test?

Last year:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id/11745451/heavyweight-luis-ortiz-tested-positive-steroid-wake-winning-interim-title

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue 09 Feb 2016, 12:33 pm

Apparently when asked about drugs Tony the Tiger said "They're gggrreat !!!"

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Post by Mr Bounce Tue 09 Feb 2016, 8:41 pm

In 2 years both of these heavies will be nothing but a footnote in the history of "nearly" men. Both are drugs cheats. Granted Ortiz blitzed Jennings in his last fight but he's not really fought at a decent level otherwise.

The WBA who keep knocking on about KO'ing drugs are a bleeping disgrace sanctioning this for one of their "titles". The "belt" my mate won for our drunken sparring session in his back garden in 1991 is worth more. I guess if it's performance enhancing drugs it's ok. Pointless fight.

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Post by ONETWOFOREVER Wed 10 Feb 2016, 11:08 am

Mr Bounce wrote:In 2 years both of these heavies will be nothing but a footnote in the history of "nearly" men. Both are drugs cheats. Granted Ortiz blitzed Jennings in his last fight but he's not really fought at a decent level otherwise.

The WBA who keep knocking on about KO'ing drugs are a bleeping disgrace sanctioning this for one of their "titles". The "belt" my mate won for our drunken sparring session in his back garden in 1991 is worth more. I guess if it's performance enhancing drugs it's ok. Pointless fight.

In all fairness that was a classic fight you can't really compare ARMA-GARDEN 91' to this up coming tripe.

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Post by Mr Bounce Wed 10 Feb 2016, 3:00 pm

laughing Yahoo

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