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Will he ever let this go?
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Just seen on BBC website that Carl Froch is taking up acting and starring with Jason Statham in a 3 part crime drama. but it was just the last bit that made me laugh, no guesses really.
The Nottingham fighter still believes he could win another world title, but says family commitments and the prospect of 12 weeks of hard training have persuaded him to rule out a comeback.
"I think about a comeback every day, but I am realistic," he told Friday Sports Panel.
"I am 40 years old next year. It is not just the fight, it is the 12-week training camp, the intensity, the dieting, and then being away from my kids."
"But as a retired athlete I still look at the super-middleweight division and think: 'James DeGale - I can beat him. George Groves - I beat him at Wembley in front of 80,000 people.'
Just seen on BBC website that Carl Froch is taking up acting and starring with Jason Statham in a 3 part crime drama. but it was just the last bit that made me laugh, no guesses really.
The Nottingham fighter still believes he could win another world title, but says family commitments and the prospect of 12 weeks of hard training have persuaded him to rule out a comeback.
"I think about a comeback every day, but I am realistic," he told Friday Sports Panel.
"I am 40 years old next year. It is not just the fight, it is the 12-week training camp, the intensity, the dieting, and then being away from my kids."
"But as a retired athlete I still look at the super-middleweight division and think: 'James DeGale - I can beat him. George Groves - I beat him at Wembley in front of 80,000 people.'
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Lee Froch will sort you out Steffan.
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I doubt that fat fool could even lay a punch on me given the size of the guyAdamT wrote:Lee Froch will sort you out Steffan.
I'd still pick him to beat me in a race to the pie shop though or win a competition on who can stroke his brothers ego the most
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On the cobbles, the winner takes a double cheeseburger and fish supper? I'd take him.
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Calzaghe is English.
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Can we ease up with all this nationality drivel. It always ends badly. There are folk in here who have been banned often enough on the back of this to hope they'd know better by now.
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Only jesting Rowley, lets just refer to them all as Earthlings.
My favourite Earthling fighter is......
Joking aside I do look fondly at Froch's career, we are all fans because we like to see good battles and be entertained by our sport - Froch certainly did all of that.
My favourite Earthling fighter is......
Joking aside I do look fondly at Froch's career, we are all fans because we like to see good battles and be entertained by our sport - Froch certainly did all of that.
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And so is Steven Gerrard. Both have the same amount of English Premiership titles in their trophy cabinets as well...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Calzaghe is English.
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Steffan wrote:And so is Steven Gerrard. Both have the same amount of English Premiership titles in their trophy cabinets as well...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Calzaghe is English.
True....doesn't change the fact Calzaghe is English though.
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Also doesn't change the fact that he always had the Welsh flag flying when he fought and the Welsh national anthem played before his fights. But a proud English none the less...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:And so is Steven Gerrard. Both have the same amount of English Premiership titles in their trophy cabinets as well...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Calzaghe is English.
True....doesn't change the fact Calzaghe is English though.
Not really sure what your point is here...but then I'm used to that with you
Now "walk on"
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Good forum this....Be a shame if it went to S**t..
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And I'm the one who tried to get this thread back on trackTRUSSMAN66 wrote:Good forum this....Be a shame if it went to S**t..
Clearly the Slimester doesn't create enough interest other than his record v Calzaghe debates
Ah well it could have been worse...Dave of the 667 variety hasn't graced us with his bad language and aggressive insults. Every cloud and that...
Let's try again...
So if Froch fought DeGale later this year who would your money be on?
I am backing the Chunkster. I feel he is now technically better than Froch. While it would be a hard fought victory I think he got what it takes to get a convincing UD
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You refer to Froch as the 'slimester' which is frankly juvenile but isn't Calzaghe the one who was a drug using cheat?
As in took cocaine and cheated on his partner.
As in took cocaine and cheated on his partner.
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What Calzaghe does in his private life is none of my concern. I'm sure most fighters have some secrets or dirty laundryHammersmith harrier wrote:You refer to Froch as the 'slimester' which is frankly juvenile but isn't Calzaghe the one who was a drug using cheat?
As in took cocaine and cheated on his partner.
Calzaghe's has just been a bit more publicised that's all
I don't also don't care what Froch does in his private life
Just wish he would stop taking so much crap in the press and repeating himself on Sky TV
Anyway...fancy talking about boxing or is that not on today's agenda list?
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Is talking boxing ever on your agenda Steffan or is simply referring to Froch as 'the slimester' more becoming of an apparent 34 year old, it's a good thing you don't want kids as they'd turn out an abomination.
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Steffan wrote:Anyway...fancy talking about boxing or is that not on today's agenda list?
I'll take that as a no thenHammersmith harrier wrote:Is talking boxing ever on your agenda Steffan or is simply referring to Froch as 'the slimester' more becoming of an apparent 34 year old, it's a good thing you don't want kids as they'd turn out an abomination.

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Hammersmith harrier wrote:Is talking boxing ever on your agenda Steffan or is simply referring to Froch as 'the slimester' more becoming of an apparent 34 year old, it's a good thing you don't want kids as they'd turn out an abomination.
That's pretty harsh and to be fair as someone who has three kids I have to say that almost every kid that isn't your own is an abomination. If I could get away with punching some of them in the face I would but instead have to hold back and give sweets to the bigger kids so they'll punch them instead - psychologically the interesting thing about this is that after they have been rewarded 4-5 times they almost become conditioned to smacking the annoying kids and do it regardless of the award. I may publish my findings somewhere, I guess here is as good a place as any.
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Steffan wrote:Also doesn't change the fact that he always had the Welsh flag flying when he fought and the Welsh national anthem played before his fights. But a proud English none the less...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:And so is Steven Gerrard. Both have the same amount of English Premiership titles in their trophy cabinets as well...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Calzaghe is English.
True....doesn't change the fact Calzaghe is English though.
Not really sure what your point is here...but then I'm used to that with you
Now "walk on"
Born in Hammersmith funnily enough

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Tricky with Chunky. More technically gifted than Froch, but doesn't have the engine or workrate and is waaaaaay too sloppy in fights re taking shots and soaking up punishment (especially for someone supposedly slick).
He has a much better chin that Groves but equally unsubstantial power.
So he won't keep Froch off and he won't avoid him. I could see a close decision going either way to be honest....
He has a much better chin that Groves but equally unsubstantial power.
So he won't keep Froch off and he won't avoid him. I could see a close decision going either way to be honest....
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Yep. Very proud of his London and English routes was our Joe. Never turned his back on them at allSoldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Born in Hammersmith funnily enough![]()


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Still born in England.........that's what it says on his passport.
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Must be why he had his biggest fight against Lacy in Manchester then.
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Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
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Soldier of Fortune has never had a passport or ever left Liverpool so it's pretty obvious why he would think all the things you had to correct him onTopHat24/7 wrote:Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
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TopHat24/7 wrote:Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
Saddo
Still born in England.........that's what it insinuates on his passport.
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Wow that's it what his says on his passport...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Still born in England.........that's what it says on his passport.
I bet Joe is sooooooooooo upset about that
Not the brightest star in the sky are you
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Steffan wrote:Soldier of Fortune has never had a passport or ever left Liverpool so it's pretty obvious why he would think all the things you had to correct him onTopHat24/7 wrote:Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
Don't change the subject, your boxing hero is English. Walk on.........
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Steffan wrote:Wow that's it what his says on his passport...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Still born in England.........that's what it says on his passport.
I bet Joe is sooooooooooo upset about that
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No its says he was born in London as Toppy has stated.
It insinuates that he was born in England.
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Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:Soldier of Fortune has never had a passport or ever left Liverpool so it's pretty obvious why he would think all the things you had to correct him onTopHat24/7 wrote:Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
Don't change the subject, your boxing hero is English. Walk on.........
I'm sure I'll get over it

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Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
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Sorry to get involved but it's his birth certificate that's most important. Joe's birth certificate will say born in England. We can all change our passports through immigration, but your birth certificate will always say where you were actually born.TopHat24/7 wrote:Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
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Yeah some unemployed bloke who's intellectual capability stretches as far as repeating "Born in England" about 7 times really upsets meHammersmith harrier wrote:Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
Still waiting for you to actually talk about boxing on this thread by the way...
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Joe Calzaghe is Welsh. Doesn't matter were he is born. He carries the Welsh Flag, that is his nationality. Stop Stirring Steffan

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Steffan wrote:Yeah some unemployed bloke who's intellectual capability stretches as far as repeating "Born in England" about 7 times really upsets meHammersmith harrier wrote:Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
Still waiting for you to actually talk about boxing on this thread by the way...
Quite clearly it does get to you hence why you scoured google looking for as many pictures as possible.
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Your passport will always say issued by UKPA though and, not matter what you try to change, whether born in London or Cardiff, it will always say British Citizen (unless you've changed citizenship to another non-UK country).
Does birth certificate say England/Wales, though? Not UK?? Legally neither E or W are countries.
Does birth certificate say England/Wales, though? Not UK?? Legally neither E or W are countries.
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Atila wrote:Sorry to get involved but it's his birth certificate that's most important. Joe's birth certificate will say born in England. We can all change our passports through immigration, but your birth certificate will always say where you were actually born.TopHat24/7 wrote:Presumably his passport ACTUALLY says he was born in London (not 'England'), that he is a British Citizen (not 'English' or 'Welsh') and that UK is his passport issuing office.....
Your passport will always say issued by UKPA though and, not matter what you try to change, whether born in London or Cardiff, it will always say British Citizen (unless you've changed citizenship to another non-UK country).
Does birth certificate say England/Wales, though? Not UK?? Legally neither E or W are countries.
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Steffan wrote:Yeah some unemployed bloke who's intellectual capability stretches as far as repeating "Born in England" about 7 times really upsets meHammersmith harrier wrote:Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
I am lying that Joe was born in England?
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I have two passports. Dual citizen.
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Your birth certificate says the district you were born in and that's it, no mention of Wales, England or the UK.
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I'm not the one stirring. It's Hammersmith and Soldier who are repeating themselvesAdamT wrote:Joe Calzaghe is Welsh. Doesn't matter were he is born. He carries the Welsh Flag, that is his nationality. Stop Stirring Steffan![]()

But I'm the one who's bothered apparently
Beats them having to talk about boxing I guess mind...
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No. What's your point?Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:Yeah some unemployed bloke who's intellectual capability stretches as far as repeating "Born in England" about 7 times really upsets meHammersmith harrier wrote:Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
I am lying that Joe was born in England?
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Steffan wrote:I'm not the one stirring. It's Hammersmith and Soldier who are repeating themselvesAdamT wrote:Joe Calzaghe is Welsh. Doesn't matter were he is born. He carries the Welsh Flag, that is his nationality. Stop Stirring Steffan![]()
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But I'm the one who's bothered apparently
Beats them having to talk about boxing I guess mind...
Sorry my post was rushed. I mean they should stop stirring you.
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Okay so Joe is English but chose to become Welsh, quite a compliment to the Welsh, after all you can't really decide where you are pushed from a vagina.
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huw wrote:Okay so Joe is English but chose to become Welsh, quite a compliment to the Welsh, after all you can't really decide where you are pushed from a vagina.
Zeta jones and Hopkins didn't share the compliment..
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These guys are on a wind up. Steff has bit
Only a halfwit would state Joe is English and mean it.

Only a halfwit would state Joe is English and mean it.
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It's not really a compliment to the Welsh. Joe probably just didn't want to be English. Who would?huw wrote:Okay so Joe is English but chose to become Welsh, quite a compliment to the Welsh
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Steffan wrote:No. What's your point?Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:Yeah some unemployed bloke who's intellectual capability stretches as far as repeating "Born in England" about 7 times really upsets meHammersmith harrier wrote:Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
I am lying that Joe was born in England?
That Joe was born England.
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:huw wrote:Okay so Joe is English but chose to become Welsh, quite a compliment to the Welsh, after all you can't really decide where you are pushed from a vagina.
Zeta jones and Hopkins didn't share the compliment..
That's why Joe is so much better than Zeta Jones and Hopkins, the swines!
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Who actually said that Joe wasn't born in England? Please show me a post on this thread that does...Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:No. What's your point?Soldier_Of_Fortune wrote:Steffan wrote:Yeah some unemployed bloke who's intellectual capability stretches as far as repeating "Born in England" about 7 times really upsets meHammersmith harrier wrote:Clearly not as it makes you so defensive.
I am lying that Joe was born in England?
That Joe was born England.
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I'm moving to Madrid myself this year...so I guess you could put me in the Welsh exile category as well after SeptemberTRUSSMAN66 wrote:Zeta jones and Hopkins didn't share the compliment..
Then again you live in sunny Manchester, England, UK (Not America)
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