Tonight’s thread

by Pedro147 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 9:48 pm

Anyone watching the boxing from Germany on Sky? How do you see the main event going?

Anyone know ring time for Canelo/Smith?

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:41 pm

Heard ring walk just before 0400 but could be sooner depending on undercard. Watching card in Germany main event will be good. Undercard robbery, standard really.

by Pedro147 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 10:55 pm

Usyk is a seriously scary looking dude.

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:01 pm

My word he looks a talent! Have heard the rumours and stories. First time watching. One round in and I'm impressed.

by Pedro147 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:06 pm

Better second round there by Glowacki, 1-1 so far for me.

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:13 pm

Two totally differing styles. Usyk the brilliant amateur with the speed, body feints and head movement. Glowacki is a stand up slugger

by The Beast Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:13 pm

Good match as others predicted.

Hope those spinning adverts in the corners don't catch on. Would be less than impressed to buy a tickets and have the view restricted by those, can't be good for the fighters either.

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:18 pm

Great match up. I have it even now

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:20 pm

Usyk 4-2 for me. Sharper work

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:28 pm

Usyk pulling away here. 6-2. Glowacki needs to let his hands go...

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:30 pm

Usyk 2 up now boxing well

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:33 pm

Yeh 3uo looks like he can step it up 4 gears

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:34 pm

What card is Proksa on?!

by Pedro147 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:36 pm

Hopefully no dodgy performances from the judges here, Usyk at least two rounds up. Looks like he could stop him too, Glowacki seems knackered.

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:36 pm

Usyk 8-2, dazzling footwork and he's broken Glowacki's heart.

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:37 pm

4 up game over

by Pedro147 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:38 pm

Good that Bellew has insight into Usyk’s career but overall I don’t like him as a commentator.

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:38 pm

How has Proksa give that 10-10?! What on earth? That's a joke!!!!

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:40 pm

Mesmerizing combinations by Usyk in the 11th. 9-2

by Herman Jaeger Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:41 pm

Good movement from Usyk but is he landing that much hurtful

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:42 pm

Yeh great round. Really has pulled away since the 5th. I have him 5 up

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:45 pm

Magnificent fight and superb performance by Usyk. 10-2 on my card. Far too slick.

by mobilemaster8 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:46 pm

Fantastic fight. Great win. 117-111 roughly could see wider but nothing shorter. Think both beat Bellew. Usyk vs Lebedev would be good.

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:50 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:Fantastic fight. Great win. 117-111 roughly could see wider but nothing shorter. Think both beat Bellew. Usyk vs Lebedev would be good.

Bellew lucked out that he faced a total unknown to bag a vacant belt. Drozd would've ruined Bellew

by Herman Jaeger Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:52 pm

Not a particularly accurate puncher

by Herman Jaeger Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:54 pm

Johnny good in the studio tonight to be fair

by Jermaine2015 Sat 17 Sep 2016, 11:55 pm

119-109
117-111
117-111

New champion, breaks Holyfields record to boot

by BoxingFan88 Sun 18 Sep 2016, 12:59 am

Uysk is some talent

A cruiserweight sized lomachenko

That was a super performance and a joy to watch

Even has the spin 180 move Haha

I'll definitely be watching him from now on

by Baby faced assassin Sun 18 Sep 2016, 5:19 am

Canelo a class above Smith as you'd expect and throwing bigger shots but Smith taking everything well and giving some back

3-1 Canelo

by Baby faced assassin Sun 18 Sep 2016, 5:40 am

Canelo knocks him out with a body shot in the 9th round after dropping him in the 7th and 8th

Brave from Smith, but his style was made for Canelo there is only so much punishment you can take blocking everything and not moving your head/feet

Canelo showed what he's good, great punch variety and good movement, but got caught on the ropes a lot and had he been in with GGG he'd be in big big trouble

It's alright fighting like that when you hold all the firepower

The GGG fight needs to happen, but can't see it till Canelo thins GGG has lost something as GGG wins that fight baring a huge 1 punch KO from Canelo

by Happytravelling Sun 18 Sep 2016, 5:55 am

Pretty much one way traffic.

Smith took a lot of punishment and the question whether he could tough it out hung till the 8th. He looked solid. But from there it looked his bravery was just that.

There interview at the end was great. Tip toeing around by saying clearly it was Canelo's promoters avoiding GGG, not the fighter. But also saying Canelo was allowing it. Canelo claiming they had offered GGG three times more money..

Amarillo Canelo doesn't want GGG. In the same way Smith was an interior version of Canelo, tonight, Canelo is an interior version in GGG. His corner know Canelo will get broken. Which is why they protect him.

by kingraf Sun 18 Sep 2016, 6:14 am

I thought Canelo put in a pretty good performance. The guy is improving at a rate of knots. I don't know if he can beat GGG based on this performance but I do think that he'll have a great chance if he can really establish that body attack.

As for Usyk. No surprise. The guy is a standout athlete. Moves like he was cast for the Nutcracker, can punch. Southpaw stance. Good luck beating him.

by Jermaine2015 Sun 18 Sep 2016, 9:28 am

Canelo picks up a second consecutive mismatch victory and then says GGG is ducking him. Canelo lacks the balls to man up and get in the ring with GGG. Oscar de la Hoya claims he's offered GGG an 8 figure purse to fight Canelo in September 2017...I hope Oscar's cheque doesn't bounce...

by Hammersmith harrier Sun 18 Sep 2016, 3:20 pm

Before the fight I didn't any way in which Smith could win nor could I understand those giving him a chance, it was a pretty simple for Alvarez who didn't need to shift through the gears too much and biding his time waiting for the end to come.

Smith goes back to domestic level and hopefully Alvarez and GGG can stop picking on smaller or overmatched British boxers.

by Herman Jaeger Sun 18 Sep 2016, 4:31 pm

Is it just me or did Smith not look quite as sharp as usual? Lost to the better man on the night though, no complaints. Half way through you could see he wasn't going to hurt Alvarez but he had his moments and there was just a moment you felt he might do something. Alvarez is very strong though good chin.

To say Smith is domestic level is a bit silly, he's one of the best four or five light middles in the world. That's not domestic level to me. Losing to an elite fighter doesn't make you domestic level either I can't stand that kind of reaction from some fans.

I'm not confident Alvarez will fight GGG in 2017, sadly I think Dela Hoya will do everything in his power to delay the fight past that date. GGG destroys Alvarez

Good boxer Usyk good footwork strong will be tough to beat at cruiserweight though I'd like to see him in with someone who can really apply the pressure and get him in a fight. Obviously I was thinking Huck

by Happytravelling Sun 18 Sep 2016, 6:23 pm

It's over the top to say Smith is domestic level. But this opportunity came too soon for him. If he had had a few more fights (against decent opposition) he would have been more competitive. Still not sure he would have won.

That said, i still thought he showed great toughness and at times fought well, with Alvarez on the ropes.

Golden boy are waiting for GGG to age. They're picking their moment.

GGG would beat Alvarez now. In the same way Alvarez was a stronger, better version on Smith, GGG is a stronger, better version of Alvarez.

But if they wait a year father time might take it's toll on GGG's timing etc and Alvarez stands a chance.

by Jermaine2015 Sun 18 Sep 2016, 9:18 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:Is it just me or did Smith not look quite as sharp as usual? Lost to the better man on the night though, no complaints. Half way through you could see he wasn't going to hurt Alvarez but he had his moments and there was just a moment you felt he might do something. Alvarez is very strong though good chin.

To say Smith is domestic level is a bit silly, he's one of the best four or five light middles in the world. That's not domestic level to me. Losing to an elite fighter doesn't make you domestic level either I can't stand that kind of reaction from some fans.

I'm not confident Alvarez will fight GGG in 2017, sadly I think Dela Hoya will do everything in his power to delay the fight past that date. GGG destroys Alvarez

Good boxer Usyk good footwork strong will be tough to beat at cruiserweight though I'd like to see him in with someone who can really apply the pressure and get him in a fight. Obviously I was thinking Huck

Sorry but you're seriously deluded if you think a flat footed plodder like Smith os a top 5 fighter at 154. He was lucky to win the belt vacated by Boo Boo Andrade. Smith is fringe top 10 at the ever best. He's unlikely to ever beat one of the main guys at 154 to legitimately win the title. Lara, Andrade, Cotto etc take him apart.

by Hammersmith harrier Sun 18 Sep 2016, 10:15 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:To say Smith is domestic level is a bit silly, he's one of the best four or five light middles in the world. That's not domestic level to me. Losing to an elite fighter doesn't make you domestic level either I can't stand that kind of reaction from some fans.

Alvarez, Lara, Andrade, Cotto, Charlo *2, Trout and Soro I would have above Smith and if Brook does move up to 154lbs then he'd jump straight above him too. He's done very little more than Brian Rose, both are solid domestic/european level boxers but nothing more than that.

by Herman Jaeger Mon 19 Sep 2016, 7:57 am

Jermaine2015 wrote:

Sorry but you're seriously deluded if you think a flat footed plodder like Smith os a top 5 fighter at 154. He was lucky to win the belt vacated by Boo Boo Andrade. Smith is fringe top 10 at the ever best. He's unlikely to ever beat one of the main guys at 154 to legitimately win the title. Lara, Andrade, Cotto etc take him apart.

I call him a decent pressure fighter rather than a flat footed plodder, I think that's a little harsh Jermaine I really do. If he was that ordinary how come HBO want him back? They saw a brave performance. I take your point maybe the slicker boxers would be fancied to outpoint him that's why I rated him top four or five rather than top two or three. I think he can be in some exciting fights and wouldn't be surprised to see him take apart one or two so called better boxers. I'd like to see him in with a Charlo perhaps the one who's seen to be the better of the two Jermall who holds a fair win over Bundrage and a good win over Trout.

by Herman Jaeger Mon 19 Sep 2016, 8:15 am

Hammersmith harrier wrote:

Alvarez, Lara, Andrade, Cotto, Charlo *2, Trout and Soro I would have above Smith and if Brook does move up to 154lbs then he'd jump straight above him too. He's done very little more than Brian Rose, both are solid domestic/european level boxers but nothing more than that.

Oh come now you're not seriously bracketing him with Rose? No disrespect to Rose but Smith is levels above him. I'm amazed you think he's so ordinary. I know you don't like pressure fighters and that's fine. I know some think he's European but I prefer lower world. That's always open to reevaluation at a latter stage of course. Either way he's sure to be in action-packed fights a lot of heart never stops coming. Not everyone's as tough as Alvarez and Smith's preparation was hampered for Canelo.

by Jermaine2015 Mon 19 Sep 2016, 12:03 pm

Herman Jaeger wrote:
Jermaine2015 wrote:

Sorry but you're seriously deluded if you think a flat footed plodder like Smith os a top 5 fighter at 154. He was lucky to win the belt vacated by Boo Boo Andrade. Smith is fringe top 10 at the ever best. He's unlikely to ever beat one of the main guys at 154 to legitimately win the title. Lara, Andrade, Cotto etc take him apart.

I call him a decent pressure fighter rather than a flat footed plodder, I think that's a little harsh Jermaine I really do. If he was that ordinary how come HBO want him back? They saw a brave performance. I take your point maybe the slicker boxers would be fancied to outpoint him that's why I rated him top four or five rather than top two or three. I think he can be in some exciting fights and wouldn't be surprised to see him take apart one or two so called better boxers. I'd like to see him in with a Charlo perhaps the one who's seen to be the better of the two Jermall who holds a fair win over Bundrage and a good win over Trout.

HBO aren't stupid, they had to put a sweetener into the Canelo/Smith fight agreement to ensure Smith's camp would agree to the fight. Smith will get two good pay cheques but will end up with to defeats. Thus ending Smith's brief foray into the PPV scene.

HBO also made the same kind of deal for Canadian slugger David Lemieux after he agreed to fight GGG.

I don't see Smith ever beating one of the champions at 154, so unless another vacate belt becomes available, he's not getting another belt.

by Herman Jaeger Tue 20 Sep 2016, 12:56 pm

Just read McKenzie Huck off Ovill sick. That's another one off was really looking forward to. Ovill was up against it but Ovill can take anyone out he lands flush. And that knockout still must be fresh in Huck's mind

by milkyboy Wed 21 Sep 2016, 11:04 am

We're getting fed a lot of very predictable fights at the moment. This was top of that pile. Smith had fought no-one close to the level of alvarez, his style was perfect for him. The only debate was whether he'd get stopped or lose a landslide points decision.

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