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Post by hazharrison on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 6:59 am

Great read here:

http://fromthevault.hbo.com/holyfieldcooper#intro

Remember that fight like it was yesterday!

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 10:19 am

Good read, even if I can't be bothered to get a US urban dictionary to understand all the references.

I have vague memories of rumours/allegations it was archie moore (part of team foreman) that was behind the hookers and charlie set-up for cooper.

Gotta love boxing

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Post by Rodney on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 12:37 pm

Cheers Haz, like you I remember this fight like it was yesterday. Great times. Cooper is involved in one my of favourite fights of all time in the humdinger with Moorer for the WBO strap.

Cheers, Rodders
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Post by hazharrison on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 12:39 pm

Rodney wrote:Cheers Haz, like you I remember this fight like it was yesterday. Great times. Cooper is involved in one my of favourite fights of all time in the humdinger with Moorer for the WBO strap.

Cheers, Rodders

Ray Mercer fight was a corker, too.

Do you think Cooper could have pulled it off had Mills Lane not given him a standing eight?

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Post by Rodney on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 12:43 pm

hazharrison wrote:
Rodney wrote:Cheers Haz, like you I remember this fight like it was yesterday. Great times. Cooper is involved in one my of favourite fights of all time in the humdinger with Moorer for the WBO strap.

Cheers, Rodders

Ray Mercer fight was a corker, too.

Do you think Cooper could have pulled it off had Mills Lane not given him a standing eight?

Tough one Haz - Lane certainly saved Holyfields bacon - knowing what Evander is he may have weathered the storm as Cooper was getting very excited, loved the fight and Cooper certainly provided better entertainment than what Damiani would have.

Do you think Cooper could've been a dominant Cruiser ?

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Post by hazharrison on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 1:13 pm

Rodney wrote:
hazharrison wrote:
Rodney wrote:Cheers Haz, like you I remember this fight like it was yesterday. Great times. Cooper is involved in one my of favourite fights of all time in the humdinger with Moorer for the WBO strap.

Cheers, Rodders

Ray Mercer fight was a corker, too.

Do you think Cooper could have pulled it off had Mills Lane not given him a standing eight?

Tough one Haz - Lane certainly saved Holyfields bacon - knowing what Evander is he may have weathered the storm as Cooper was getting very excited, loved the fight and Cooper certainly provided better entertainment than what Damiani would have.

Do you think Cooper could've been a dominant Cruiser ?

Cheers, Rodders

He was a bit erratic but he'd have been a champ on his best nights.

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Post by milkyboy on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 1:26 pm

yep, when he turned up without a nose full of candy he was a handful.

You'd have to watch a lot of heavyweight boxing to watch a better round than holy cooper round 3.

Holy had a great chin, but was susceptible behind the ear!

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Post by hazharrison on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 1:30 pm

Holyfield didn't half give him a hammering before the finish. Brutal.

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Post by Happytravelling on Thu 24 Nov 2016, 10:23 pm

Thanks haz. Good read.

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Post by spencerclarke on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 10:34 am

Cheers gents. Hadn't seen this fight before. Round three was truly stunning. At around 1.20 left of that round many refs would have stopped Holyfield.

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Post by hazharrison on Fri 25 Nov 2016, 11:46 am

spencerclarke wrote:Cheers gents. Hadn't seen this fight before. Round three was truly stunning. At around 1.20 left of that round many refs would have stopped Holyfield.

It was one of those WTF moments where your brain can't quite keep up. Holyfield had a few of those (dropping Bowe in their rubber match etc.).

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Post by rapidringsroad on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 8:47 pm

I remember the Holyfield v Cooper fight and though a big fan of Holyfield I feel he was a tad lucky in that fight.The instructions at the beginning of the fight were "no standing eight count"and what does Mills Lane do as soon as Holyfield was in trouble? give him an standing eight count. He did recover though and the end was pretty brutal.The result though could have been different without that short break.

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Post by milkyboy on Sun 27 Nov 2016, 9:17 pm

I presume lane judged the ropes kept him up and therefore treated it as a knockdown rather than a standing 8... although it amounts to the same thing. So it comes down to whether you think lane was right or not, I think he was technically, but no doubt it helped Holyfield.

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