The v2 Forum
Would you like to react to this message? Create an account in a few clicks or log in to continue.

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

+58
carpet baboon
Ozzy3213
BigGee
formerly known as Sam
Dontheman2
rodders
cascough
wayne
BamBam
BigTrevsbigmac
lostinwales
LordDowlais
RDW
123456789
The Great Aukster
ebop
geoff999rugby
Winzer
WELL-PAST-IT
LondonTiger
EWT Spoons
Geen sport voor watjes
George Carlin
EST
kingelderfield
RiscaGame
Sin é
alive555
funnyExiledScot
Fluxy
TightHEAD
Taylorman
Gwlad
Rugby Fan
Rory_Gallagher
True Raven
majesticimperialman
mikey_dragon
hugehandoff
aucklandlaurie
TrailApe
R!skysports
RuggerRadge2611
Gooseberry
nlpnlp
Sgt_Pooly
Cyril
beshocked
Hammersmith harrier
Pete C (Kiwireddevil)
GunsGermsV2
robbo277
Luckless Pedestrian
No 7&1/2
SecretFly
marty2086
Scottrf
munkian
62 posters

Page 10 of 20 Previous  1 ... 6 ... 9, 10, 11 ... 15 ... 20  Next

Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by munkian Thu 20 Apr 2017, 12:19 pm

First topic message reminder :

Scottrf wrote:Lawes was better than AWJ every week in the 6 Nations and isn't injured yet he's the strange call Rolling Eyes

AWJ is a leader and well respected by his peers as well as being a former winning Lions test captain.

Lions players aren't just based on how well they did in the six nations, they are picked on how well the coaches think they will gel into the squad.

You need leaders on and off the pitch.

munkian
munkian

Posts : 8456
Join date : 2011-04-01
Age : 40
Location : Bristol/The Port

Back to top Go down


British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Scottrf Wed 26 Apr 2017, 12:41 pm

Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

Unintentional? Too hard for some? What a keyboard warrior.

Scottrf

Posts : 14268
Join date : 2011-01-26

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rugby Fan Wed 26 Apr 2017, 12:51 pm

Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

Rugby Fan
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 6581
Join date : 2012-09-14

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by TightHEAD Wed 26 Apr 2017, 12:52 pm

Lets be honest how many English fans would rather see NZ v England this Summer instead of this out of date 19th Century Tour concept?
TightHEAD
TightHEAD

Posts : 6172
Join date : 2014-09-25
Age : 59
Location : Brexit Island.

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Taylorman Wed 26 Apr 2017, 12:55 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

One...was it intentional? Yes. Two...did McCaw moan? No.

Think you'll find in BODs case the answers are reversed.

Sure, Cooper was a weak fan thing, same as Irish fans with Dublin. It happens. But you don't hear McCaw complaining.

Taylorman

Posts : 12275
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 12:56 pm

ebop wrote:I thought Tana apologised, didn't he?

Not that rugby players are known for apologising after such incidents given the nature of the game. Was BOD so special that he warranted one where others don't (as per the norm).

I realise that is the culture of NZ rugby, but not here. Players certainly do apologise after such incidents, as they should. Often they do so on the pitch as well. Unless your name is Keith Earls.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 12:57 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

 It really annoys me when this booing occurs, it makes us look look like a bunch of morons, but I must also say that very few did it last year and being in the crowd I hardly noticed it, but later when you watch the game on TV it was much more pronounced.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:00 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

One...was it intentional? Yes. Two...did McCaw moan? No.

Think you'll find in BODs case the answers are reversed.

Sure, Cooper was a weak fan thing, same as Irish fans with Dublin. It happens. But you don't hear McCaw complaining.

This can be quite easily simplified to the following:

Foul play against NZ player - outrage by NZ fans/press is justified

Foul play by a NZ player on anyone else - doesn't count, stop whinging

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:04 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

One...was it intentional? Yes. Two...did McCaw moan? No.

Think you'll find in BODs case the answers are reversed.

Sure, Cooper was a weak fan thing, same as Irish fans with Dublin. It happens. But you don't hear McCaw complaining.

This can be quite easily simplified to the following:

Foul play against NZ player - outrage by NZ fans/press is justified

Foul play by a NZ player on anyone else - doesn't count, stop whinging
 Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:07 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:08 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

 No.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:09 pm

And yet again, I haven't heard a retraction/apology from you after being quite clearly wrong (and abusive to those who thought otherwise) regarding foul play after the Ireland game. I certainly do agree that our perception of foul play is very different.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:14 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:And yet again, I haven't heard a retraction/apology from you after being quite clearly wrong (and abusive to those who thought otherwise) regarding foul play after the Ireland game. I certainly do agree that our perception of foul play is very different.

 You never will get an apology or retraction, one player got cited and banned for a week (which goes to show how minor that event was) and the other had his citing dismissed because the allegations against him were groundless.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:15 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

 No.

Classy. Although, I will assume you are being facetious. If I may do the same, I am currently booking my flight to NZ this summer to drop a couple of Kiwis (smaller than me of course) on their necks, given that it is an entirely legal act. 

Hey, if you've got a problem with that, toughen up. Life can be a tough old ride.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:16 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:And yet again, I haven't heard a retraction/apology from you after being quite clearly wrong (and abusive to those who thought otherwise) regarding foul play after the Ireland game. I certainly do agree that our perception of foul play is very different.

 You never will get an apology or retraction, one player got cited and banned for a week (which goes to show how minor that event was) and the other had his citing dismissed because the allegations against him were groundless.

Typical coward who can't face his mistakes.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:17 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

 No.

Classy. Although, I will assume you are being facetious. If I may do the same, I am currently booking my flight to NZ this summer to drop a couple of Kiwis (smaller than me of course) on their necks, given that it is an entirely legal act. 

Hey, if you've got a problem with that, toughen up. Life can be a tough old ride.

 Are you coming down for the tour? we should catch up.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Sin é Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:18 pm

GunsGermsV2 wrote:
ebop wrote:I can't wait for BOD to wind himself up into a tizz and get all emotional and irrational all over again

Only a Kiwi would call getting pissed off over a broken collar bone and 13 months out of the game irrational. Kiwi logic.

... and yet go into a strop because they were not allowed do their pre match dance routine after the anthems against Wales!
Sin é
Sin é

Posts : 13725
Join date : 2011-04-01
Location : Dublin

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by TightHEAD Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:19 pm

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 1347041234
TightHEAD
TightHEAD

Posts : 6172
Join date : 2014-09-25
Age : 59
Location : Brexit Island.

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:20 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

 No.

Classy. Although, I will assume you are being facetious. If I may do the same, I am currently booking my flight to NZ this summer to drop a couple of Kiwis (smaller than me of course) on their necks, given that it is an entirely legal act. 

Hey, if you've got a problem with that, toughen up. Life can be a tough old ride.

 Are you coming down for the tour? we should catch up.

Can't say I'm interested in doing so. Also, I will assume better that this isn't a thinly veiled threat of some sort from another keyboard warrior.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:21 pm

Sin é wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:
ebop wrote:I can't wait for BOD to wind himself up into a tizz and get all emotional and irrational all over again

Only a Kiwi would call getting pissed off over a broken collar bone and 13 months out of the game irrational. Kiwi logic.

... and yet go into a strop because they were not allowed do their pre match dance routine after the anthems against Wales!

 If the Haka is so bad why dont you guys get it banned?

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by TightHEAD Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:22 pm

It looked like a threat,


I was recently banned for highlighting a swear word by another poster. Lets hope the MODs are watching!
TightHEAD
TightHEAD

Posts : 6172
Join date : 2014-09-25
Age : 59
Location : Brexit Island.

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:23 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

 No.

Classy. Although, I will assume you are being facetious. If I may do the same, I am currently booking my flight to NZ this summer to drop a couple of Kiwis (smaller than me of course) on their necks, given that it is an entirely legal act. 

Hey, if you've got a problem with that, toughen up. Life can be a tough old ride.

 Are you coming down for the tour? we should catch up.

Can't say I'm interested in doing so. Also, I will assume better that this isn't a thinly veiled threat of some sort from another keyboard warrior.

 Well Im sure you will have a great time and, you will learn a lot.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:30 pm

If you read the first few words, I'm not interested. Now, why don't you go for a wee lie down or something? I understand the internet can be tough.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:34 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:If you read the first few words, I'm not interested. Now, why don't you go for a wee lie down or something? I understand the internet can be tough.

 Thats not very nice, I was only trying to be civil make you feel welcome.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:37 pm

A 60 year old NZ fan on an anonymous rugby forum trying to use some weird intimidation tactics against another rugby fan on the other side of the planet. I hope I make better life choices.

Anyway, gotta go. Let's catch up later when you calm down a bit.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rugby Fan Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:38 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Can't say I'm interested in doing so. Also, I will assume better that this isn't a thinly veiled threat of some sort from another keyboard warrior.
I've never met laurie, but I've had some robust discussions with him. One thing I'm sure of though is this: if he offers to meet up then he means it in good faith.

Rugby Fan
Moderator
Moderator

Posts : 6581
Join date : 2012-09-14

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by aucklandlaurie Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:47 pm

Rugby Fan wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:Can't say I'm interested in doing so. Also, I will assume better that this isn't a thinly veiled threat of some sort from another keyboard warrior.
I've never met laurie, but I've had some robust discussions with him. One thing I'm sure of though is this: if he offers to meet up then he means it in good faith.

 Rugby fan, you hold a fantastic appreciation of the game, and if you were ever heading down this way, without hesitation I would pm either phone/email to arrange a meet, it would be my pleasure.

aucklandlaurie

Posts : 7548
Join date : 2011-06-27
Age : 65
Location : Auckland

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by RuggerRadge2611 Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:51 pm

This thread has gone to absolute excrement.
RuggerRadge2611
RuggerRadge2611

Posts : 7194
Join date : 2011-03-04
Age : 36
Location : The North, The REAL North (Beyond the Wall)

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Geen sport voor watjes Wed 26 Apr 2017, 1:54 pm

RuggerRadge2611 wrote:This thread has gone to absolute excrement.

Just about sums up the whole lions thing

Geen sport voor watjes

Posts : 709
Join date : 2015-11-13

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by The Great Aukster Wed 26 Apr 2017, 2:12 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Sin é wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:
ebop wrote:I can't wait for BOD to wind himself up into a tizz and get all emotional and irrational all over again

Only a Kiwi would call getting pissed off over a broken collar bone and 13 months out of the game irrational. Kiwi logic.

... and yet go into a strop because they were not allowed do their pre match dance routine after the anthems against Wales!

 If the Haka is so bad why dont you guys get it banned?

Please no - where's the petition to keep the Haka?

It is an absolute must for rugby enjoyment.
- it is the only time on the pitch facing the ABs that a player is guaranteed not to get a shoulder to the head or be spear tackled
- the ABs need the Haka to get fired up otherwise they risk losing - causing their fans to become even more intolerably boorish
- it reaches out to parts of society that bypass rugby - especially the sticking out tongue and throat slitting

Vote remain! No to Hakaxit

The Great Aukster

Posts : 5246
Join date : 2011-06-09

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Taylorman Wed 26 Apr 2017, 2:41 pm

The Great Aukster wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Sin é wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:
ebop wrote:I can't wait for BOD to wind himself up into a tizz and get all emotional and irrational all over again

Only a Kiwi would call getting pissed off over a broken collar bone and 13 months out of the game irrational. Kiwi logic.

... and yet go into a strop because they were not allowed do their pre match dance routine after the anthems against Wales!

 If the Haka is so bad why dont you guys get it banned?

Please no - where's the petition to keep the Haka?

It is an absolute must for rugby enjoyment.
- it is the only time on the pitch facing the ABs that a player is guaranteed not to get a shoulder to the head or be spear tackled
- the ABs need the Haka to get fired up otherwise they risk losing - causing their fans to become even more intolerably boorish
- it reaches out to parts of society that bypass rugby - especially the sticking out tongue and throat slitting

Vote remain! No to Hakaxit

We've learned a lot about voting up there. First Scotland votes no to Independence, then Brexit stuns everyone, now they want to redo both all over again?

Geez, between that and the characters from Deliverance voting Donald in, the north really don't know how democracy really works. Here's a hint...it starts with...ticking the right box!

Taylorman

Posts : 12275
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by marty2086 Wed 26 Apr 2017, 2:43 pm

Is there a petition to extend the distance teams have to stand from the Haka so as not to offend or intimidate the poor hard done by ABs?

marty2086

Posts : 11208
Join date : 2011-05-13
Age : 35
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by TightHEAD Wed 26 Apr 2017, 3:26 pm

Oh blimey I forgot we have to watch that charade before the games, plus the poor players will have to put up with Kiwi's doing it in front of them time and time again at school visits etc.........
TightHEAD
TightHEAD

Posts : 6172
Join date : 2014-09-25
Age : 59
Location : Brexit Island.

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Gwlad Wed 26 Apr 2017, 3:53 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

One...was it intentional? Yes. Two...did McCaw moan? No.

Think you'll find in BODs case the answers are reversed.

Sure, Cooper was a weak fan thing, same as Irish fans with Dublin. It happens. But you don't hear McCaw complaining.

Did BOD moan?Rolling Eyes  In agony since he had a broken collarbone by one of the most dangerous acts in rugby most of us have ever seen. Another fine example of Kiwi hypocrisy. Did NZ moan about sore tummies when they lost to England or was that in 1995 when they lost to SA I don't recall? laughing

Gwlad

Posts : 4224
Join date : 2014-12-04

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Gwlad Wed 26 Apr 2017, 3:56 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote:
Rory_Gallagher wrote:
aucklandlaurie wrote: Just one little problem, you need to know what foul play is.

Sure, I agree. So, let's get a straight answer from you, for a change. Is dropping someone on their head so that they almost break their neck foul play?

 No.

Classy. Although, I will assume you are being facetious. If I may do the same, I am currently booking my flight to NZ this summer to drop a couple of Kiwis (smaller than me of course) on their necks, given that it is an entirely legal act. 

Hey, if you've got a problem with that, toughen up. Life can be a tough old ride.

 Are you coming down for the tour? we should catch up.

Can't say I'm interested in doing so. Also, I will assume better that this isn't a thinly veiled threat of some sort from another keyboard warrior.

 Well Im sure you will have a great time and, you will learn a lot.

What do you think he'll learn in NZ?

Gwlad

Posts : 4224
Join date : 2014-12-04

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Scottrf Wed 26 Apr 2017, 3:57 pm

New Zealand have never lost without being hit by sickness. Quite a coincidence. Not bad losers though.

Scottrf

Posts : 14268
Join date : 2011-01-26

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Taylorman Wed 26 Apr 2017, 4:56 pm

Gwlad wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Rugby Fan wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

When Quade Cooper kneed Richie McCaw in the head, the New Zealand public was outraged and proceeded to boo Cooper in public for years afterwards. Difficult to take it seriously when the same supporters claim bygones should be bygones for their own offences.

One...was it intentional? Yes. Two...did McCaw moan? No.

Think you'll find in BODs case the answers are reversed.

Sure, Cooper was a weak fan thing, same as Irish fans with Dublin. It happens. But you don't hear McCaw complaining.

Did BOD moan?Rolling Eyes  In agony since he had a broken collarbone by one of the most dangerous acts in rugby most of us have ever seen. Another fine example of Kiwi hypocrisy. Did NZ moan about sore tummies when they lost to England or was that in 1995 when they lost to SA I don't recall? laughing

Yes fair call, there's a familiar pattern that seems to emerge every time...starts with the latest debacle, then BOD, then McCaw, then 95. We're all a fairly predictable lot I agree.

Taylorman

Posts : 12275
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 26 Apr 2017, 9:01 pm

Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

What a load of horse crap, they picked him up off the ball and drove him into the ground, Umaga and Mealamu are scumbags.

Hammersmith harrier

Posts : 12060
Join date : 2013-09-26

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by 123456789 Wed 26 Apr 2017, 9:22 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsXJyDHFKn0

Clearly was intentional, clearly was dangerous and 12 years on it is clearly irrelevant. Seems a fairly futile debate drawn down the lines of which team you supported on the day.

123456789

Posts : 1841
Join date : 2011-11-13

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Wed 26 Apr 2017, 9:48 pm

Still sickening to watch, and even more sickening that some "fans" from New Zealand do not recognise it as one of the most disgusting acts on the rugby pitch. I thought Munster fans were incapable of criticising their own, but they look like saints in comparison.

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Geen sport voor watjes Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:04 pm

Rory_Gallagher wrote:Still sickening to watch, and even more sickening that some "fans" from New Zealand do not recognise it as one of the most disgusting acts on the rugby pitch. I thought Munster fans were incapable of criticising their own, but they look like saints in comparison.

Clearly you have not been to cork or limerick for a game. Munster supporters do nothing but criticise their own. We just don't like anybody else doing it.

Geen sport voor watjes

Posts : 709
Join date : 2015-11-13

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Sin é Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:21 pm

aucklandlaurie wrote:
Sin é wrote:
GunsGermsV2 wrote:
ebop wrote:I can't wait for BOD to wind himself up into a tizz and get all emotional and irrational all over again

Only a Kiwi would call getting pissed off over a broken collar bone and 13 months out of the game irrational. Kiwi logic.

... and yet go into a strop because they were not allowed do their pre match dance routine after the anthems against Wales!

 If the Haka is so bad why dont you guys get it banned?

I don't mind the haka. I find it amusing though that you got so upset when asked to perform it before the anthems rather than after.
Sin é
Sin é

Posts : 13725
Join date : 2011-04-01
Location : Dublin

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Taylorman Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:29 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

What a load of horse crap, they picked him up off the ball and drove him into the ground, Umaga and Mealamu are scumbags.

Perhaps...and BOD's a moaner- a serial one. Cant have it both ways Hammer.

Taylorman

Posts : 12275
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Gwlad Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:32 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

What a load of horse crap, they picked him up off the ball and drove him into the ground, Umaga and Mealamu are scumbags.

Perhaps...and BOD's a moaner- a serial one. Cant have it both ways Hammer.

Nor can you , moaning about food poisoning or a forward pass by comparison with being double spear tackled into the ground to the tune of a fractured collar bone and what could have been a tragedy kind of sums the whole Kiwi nature up. Kiwis love to moan when it suits them and then put down anyone else who has a justifiable grievance.

Gwlad

Posts : 4224
Join date : 2014-12-04

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Hammersmith harrier Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:37 pm

Taylorman wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

What a load of horse crap, they picked him up off the ball and drove him into the ground, Umaga and Mealamu are scumbags.

Perhaps...and BOD's a moaner- a serial one. Cant have it both ways Hammer.

How is that having it both ways, BOD moans about a couple of scumbags trying to end his career so what?

Hammersmith harrier

Posts : 12060
Join date : 2013-09-26

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by ebop Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:46 pm

Fact is, he broke his collarbone

What's with all this 'what if' nonsense?

That Irish guy that kneed McCaw in the head. What an absolute scumbag thug. Bet he didn't apologise.
ebop
ebop

Posts : 5091
Join date : 2011-10-25

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Taylorman Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:53 pm

Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Taylorman wrote:
Hammersmith harrier wrote:
Taylorman wrote:Yeah I just think some people shouldn't play this game. It's just too hard for some. can't take it, don't play it. Simple. Understand it went unpenalised, understand he was hurt, and understand it was unintentional.

A few things conspired at the same time to result in a near worst case scenario, none if it intentional. Unfortunately it happens.

What a load of horse crap, they picked him up off the ball and drove him into the ground, Umaga and Mealamu are scumbags.

Perhaps...and BOD's a moaner- a serial one. Cant have it both ways Hammer.

How is that having it both ways, BOD moans about a couple of scumbags trying to end his career so what?

You see thats where you get carried away.
Did Tana and Keven meet and decide...Hey, how about we try and end BODs career today? No, unless you have proof that they did other than an emotionally fuelled view of the tackle.
Are they actually scumbags? No. They had a moment. Tana is crdited for saving a players life by preventing his tongue from being swollen. A scumbag may not have done that perhaps.
Mealamu is credited with doing countless projects and services to his community over the years- thousands of hours where he's helped wider family and the youth of South Auckland.

So no, sorry, stop being over emotive. It was an unfortunate moment that can happen in rugby- and much worse does. That they didnt apologise isnt great but that probably wasnt helped by BODs persistent raising it over the years, tweeting and withdrawing them, using the media to promote his cause. he did the same with Gats in 2013 when he should have just...said nufg and respected the decision to put a winning side onto the field. But nope. Away he went...

Taylorman

Posts : 12275
Join date : 2011-02-02
Location : Wellington NZ

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Gwlad Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:54 pm

ebop wrote:Fact is, he broke his collarbone

What's with all this 'what if' nonsense?

That Irish guy that kneed McCaw in the head. What an absolute scumbag thug. Bet he didn't apologise.

When Cooper made contact with McCaw's head it was his own fault, he should have got his head out of the way.

Likewise when McCaw is sitting in a ruck and has his head at knee height and Higginbotham catches him, He then reacts by grabbing Higginbotham's leg.

Mealamu and Umaga, absolute scumbags? If the cap fits.



Gwlad

Posts : 4224
Join date : 2014-12-04

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by ebop Wed 26 Apr 2017, 11:56 pm

Good post Tman
ebop
ebop

Posts : 5091
Join date : 2011-10-25

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Rory_Gallagher Thu 27 Apr 2017, 12:26 am

This may be quite hard for Kiwi brains to understand, but if you lift a player up, tip him over and then drive him into the ground on his head, then that is a rather obvious intentional act. Whether they were trying to cause serious injury/end his career is a matter for debate. If you truly believe that the incident was accidental or even just reckless, then I really don't know what else to say.

But hey, maybe you do have brains:

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/170852

Rory_Gallagher

Posts : 11324
Join date : 2011-09-18
Age : 29
Location : Belfast

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Gwlad Thu 27 Apr 2017, 12:43 am

Tana and Kevan didn't but Quade did? Whatever system you have to prove the one did but the two didn't I suggest you patent it. Rolling Eyes

Gwlad

Posts : 4224
Join date : 2014-12-04

Back to top Go down

British & Irish Lions Squad 2017 - Page 10 Empty Re: British & Irish Lions Squad 2017

Post by Sponsored content


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 10 of 20 Previous  1 ... 6 ... 9, 10, 11 ... 15 ... 20  Next

Back to top


 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum