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Post by Guest82 Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:33 am

Anyone interested in this tournament?

Looks like a really good 500. Some potentially interesting matches. JMDP v Nishikori for a start.

Edmund v Dimitrov, potentially Zverev v Kyrgios too.

http://www.atpworldtour.com/en/scores/current/washington/418/draws

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Post by sirfredperry Wed Aug 02, 2017 2:40 am

Nishi has already had a tough opener against Donald Young who saved a number of MPs before finally succumbing in a third-set tiebreak.
   As G82 says, it's a reasonably strong field. Would be good to see delpo go deep.

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Post by sirfredperry Thu Aug 03, 2017 1:24 am

Edmund took Dimi to three sets before losing. The Brit is not getting smashed in these matches, but just can't get the big win that would propel him up the rankings.
   Raonic had a tough battle against Mahut before coming thru in two tiebreak sets. But Monfils lost to a 200-ranked qualifier.

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Post by dummy_half Thu Aug 03, 2017 3:24 am

sirfredperry wrote:Edmund took Dimi to three sets before losing. The Brit is not getting smashed in these matches, but just can't get the big win that would propel him up the rankings.
   Raonic had a tough battle against Mahut before coming thru in two tiebreak sets. But Monfils lost to a 200-ranked qualifier.

After a rocky start to the year, Kyle at least seems to be playing reasonably well, but his progress does seem to have stalled a little in terms of continuing to climb the rankings. Competitive with guys playing at a very good level but just a few too many holes in his game to let him win these matches on a semi-consistent basis.

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Post by laverfan Thu Aug 03, 2017 4:34 am

Surprising loss for Monfils to Bhambri. chin

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Post by Guest82 Thu Aug 03, 2017 5:28 am

Not sure any Monfils loss is that surprising. Kyrgios also retired whilst losing again, shame for him as he seemed to have found some form and maturity pre-injury.

Think Edmund has worked on his fitness and backhand a lot. Can see him being a top 20 player, but not sure he'll get much higher.

Young American Tommy Paul beat Pouille too - he was quite highly thought of a few years ago. Plays Gilles Muller next.

Thiem v Anderson and JMDP v Nishikori look interesting today.

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Post by sirfredperry Fri Aug 04, 2017 12:46 am

A good win for Anderson over Thiem in long three-setter. Delpo lost in straights against Nishi. Medvedev smashed Dimi for loss of only six games. Wins also for Zverev and Raonic.

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Post by Guest Fri Aug 04, 2017 4:12 am

Guest82 wrote:Not sure any Monfils loss is that surprising.  Kyrgios also retired whilst losing again, shame for him as he seemed to have found some form and maturity pre-injury.

Think Edmund has worked on his fitness and backhand a lot.  Can see him being a top 20 player, but not sure he'll get much higher.

Young American Tommy Paul beat Pouille too - he was quite highly thought of a few years ago. Plays Gilles Muller next.

Thiem v Anderson and JMDP v Nishikori look interesting today.
Kyrgios recent series of injuries (or the same one recurring) is showing the importance of not pushing your body beyond capacity. Hopefully Edmund will remain fit and have an epiphany moment where his reading of the game improves dramatically. With regard to Kyrgios injuries - in the past and in other sports that is the reason why people used "performance enhancing drugs" during their training to prevent such breakdowns and for speedier recoveries. Without such drugs they need to be much more careful and aware of their bodies limitations - and to work on developing techniques that don't overstrain the body.

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Post by laverfan Fri Aug 04, 2017 6:44 pm

Nishikori in trouble against Tommy Paul. Paul has already beaten Pouille and Muller so far.

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Post by laverfan Fri Aug 04, 2017 10:19 pm

Nishikori Saves 3 M.P. To Survive #NextGenATP Paul.

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Post by sirfredperry Sat Aug 05, 2017 1:37 am

Is Nishi wearing himself out ? He's got Montreal next week , although I don't know if he's playing Cinci as well.

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Post by sirfredperry Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:47 am

Nishi well beaten by A Zverev  who will take on Anderson in final.

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Post by Henman Bill Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:43 pm

Interesting when a player does this...Zverev a set down in his first match and a TB final set then after that every match won in straight sets. Fine lines here -- won a tournament, but could easily have lost in his first match.

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Post by Guest82 Mon Aug 07, 2017 4:32 am

I only saw the semi-final and final, but think Zverev looked very, very good.

He's up to fourth in the race now. With Djokovic and Stan out and Murray struggling, he is probably my favourite for YE#3.

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Post by Henman Bill Mon Aug 07, 2017 10:42 am

I think we should be cautious about putting Zverev ahead of Thiem in terms of potential (whether for the rest of this year, or longer term). Zverev is on a good run, but things could change. Anyway, Zverev has basically qualified for the year end tournament now barring injury or maybe if he barely wins a match for the rest of the season, otherwise he'll be there and make a good addition to the tournament.

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Post by lags72 Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:01 am

That's good news. Am really keen to see new, younger faces at WTF thumbsup

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Post by Calder106 Mon Aug 07, 2017 11:10 am

Henman Bill wrote:I think we should be cautious about putting Zverev ahead of Thiem in terms of potential (whether for the rest of this year, or longer term). Zverev is on a good run, but things could change. Anyway, Zverev has basically qualified for the year end tournament now barring injury or maybe if he barely wins a match for the rest of the season, otherwise he'll be there and make a good addition to the tournament.

Think both have great potential to be at the top of the rankings as the old guard drop away. However Zverev who just turned 20 looks to have a little bit more than Thiem who turns 24 next month. Good to see them both up there though.

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Post by Guest82 Tue Aug 08, 2017 2:05 am

Thiem is only really good on clay. Zverev's game seems to translate across all surfaces.

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