Ospreys 17/18 Season

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This is not an exact replica of what is on our website, and unlike last season cannot give exact years left on contract, as some that have been reviewed length of contract have not been given. Games in 2018 are given in order, but as there are 3 dates, will not put any, until exact dates are given.
Head Coach Steve Tandy
Backs Coach Gruff Rees
Forwards Coach Allen Clarke
Defence Coach Brad Davis

Players: Cory Allen, Dmitri Arhip, Lloyd Ashley, Dan Baker, Jay Baker*, Scott Baldwin, Adam Beard, Ashley Beck, Dan Biggar, Olly Cracknell, Bradley Davies, Sam Davies, Hanno Dirksen, Dan Evans, Ma'afu Fia, Kieron Fonotia, Keelan Giles, Hugh Gustafson, Tom Habberfield, Jeff Hassler, James Hook, Dafydd Howells, Paul James, Ben John, AW Jones, Rhodri Jones, James King, Brendon Leonard, Dan Lydiate, Rob McCusker, Brian Mujati, Scott Otten, Sam Parry, Luke Price*, Nicky Smith, Gareth Thomas, Joe Thomas*, Rory Thornton, Justin Tipuric, Eli Walker, Owen Watkin, Rhys Webb.
The players with asterisks are not in the squad according to the website
11/8 Leicester Tigers           H                           L                     14-21                  Friendly  
20/8 Bath                          A                           L                     14-28                  Friendly
25/8 Leicester Tigers           A                           L                     14-40                  Friendly
2/9   Zebre                        H                                                                           GL
9/9  Glasgow Warriors          A                                                                           GL
16/9 Munster                     H                                                                           GL
22/9 Treviso                      A                                                                           GL
29/9 Cheetahs                   A                                                                           GL
7/10 Scarlets                     H                                                                           GL
15/10 Clermont Auv             H                                                                           RCC
21/10 Saracens                  A                                                                           RCC
27/10 Dragons                   H                                                                            GL
4/11 Edinburgh                   A                                                                            GL
10/11 Wasps                      H                                                                            AWC
17/18/19-11 Cardiff B          A                                                                            AWC
24/25/26-11 Glasgow W       H                                                                            GL
2/12 Munster                     A                                                                             GL
9/12 Northampton S            A                                                                            RCC
17/12 Northampton S          H                                                                            RCC
26/12 Scarlets                   A                                                                            GL
31/12 Dragons                   H                                                                             GL
       Cardiff B                   H                                                                             GL
       Saracens                  A                                                                             RCC
       Clermont Auv            H                                                                             RCC
       Gloucester                A                                                                             AWC
        Bath                      H                                                                              AWC
        Connacht                A                                                                              GL
        Southern Kings         H                                                                              GL
        Cheetahs                H                                                                              GL
        Zebre                     A                                                                              GL
        Leinster                  H                                                                              GL
        Connacht                H                                                                              GL
        Ulster                     A                                                                              GL
        Cardiff BL                A                                                                              GL
That squad has been so injury hit over the past 5 years or so, if we have the same sort of injury this next season, we will be back in RCC2 next season and nowhere near the playoffs, our 3 NWQ tight heads are at the moment not 100% fit even though 1 could make it for the first game. There is even talk of having Paul James filling in there.

ScarletSpiderman wrote:Wayne, I think you're wrong about 1/2p, if he had played then there would've been a fair chance you would have snuck the win IMO (we knew we couldn't rely on kicks so had to score tries, with him on we would've opted for the 3pts to put things closer).

The players have not turned into unskilled players over night, and there is plenty of talent in that squad.  Maybe a break from the league will do them some good, and same goes for the boys who are off to the welsh squad for the AIs.  We have seen it in the past when there have been players who have been looking out of sorts and then come back from the Welsh camp playing much better again (Think back end of Holleys reign) and kicked on in black.

Sorry SS, I don't agree, I know if any of the penalties had been kicked, the kick off would have been changed from the 22 to the halfway line, and possibly the game would have been totally different, but IMO we would still have conceded further up the field for LH to kick again. IIRC there was 11 points left out there, it might not have been 11 kicked but it would have been enough to stop us getting a LBP.

SS, I'm hoping and in actual fact it should be that we've very few in the AI squad, it might be the kick up the harris that they need.

Wayne, you’re right it would be a serious hoof in the rump if Team Wales did leave a number of lads out. Toud certainly find out what kind of players they are. I was thinking more of the likes of AWJ, Biggar, Webb and Tips

Ospreys selected team v Clermont on Sunday 15/10/17 at the Liberty Stadium ko 17.30 is as follows
15 Dan Evans, 14 Keelan Giles, 13 Kieron Fonotia, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Cory Allen, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Rhys Webb, 8 Dan Baker, 7 Justin Tipuric, 6 Dan Lydiate, 5 AWJ, 4 BBBD, 3 Dmitri Arhip, 2 Scott Otten and Nicky Smith with Sam Parry, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, Lloyd Ashley, Olly Cracknell, Tom Habberfield, Sam Davies and James Hook on the bench, apart from TAFKNAAP on the bench, that is probably the strongest 23 we can put out at the moment. Oh to have had a decent Coaching team for the last couple of years.

Ospreys team selected for the trip to Allianz Park in RCC 1 tomorrow evening is as follows
15 Dan Evans, 14 Jeff Hassler, 13 Kieron Fonotia, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Cory Allen, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Tom Habberfield, 1 Nicky Smith, 2 Sam Parry, 3 Dmitri Arhip, 4 Adam Beard, 5 AWJ, 6 Dan Lydiate, 7 Justin Tipuric and 8 James King with Scott Baldwin, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, Lloyd Ashley, Guy Mercer, Brendon Leonard, Sam Davies and James Hook on the bench.

Surprised with the omission of BBBD he's not down as injured, and we still persevere with Ashley on the bench, Webb hasn't recovered from last weeks injury, I think we'll miss both of our back row injured, Cracknell for his tackling and Baker his carrying, not really surprised that Giles is missing this one, Hassler is a better defender.

Lydiate pulls out (back problem) Guy Mercer deputises, with Sam Cross Welsh and Olympic sevens player onto the bench. It is going from bad to worse.

Well the game is not currently running to the prepared script

How was that a penalty try?

VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

formerly known as Sam wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

There was cover actually.

How did Leonard manage to lose that ball at the scrum?

What a waste of NWQ spot.

VinceWLB wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

There was cover actually.

That's not how the ref and the TMO saw it.

Ospreys doing really well to get on the outside of the Sarries rush defence. Unfortunately they look to be tiring in defence (understandably).

formerly known as Sam wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:

formerly known as Sam wrote:

VinceWLB wrote:How was that a penalty try?

It's a deliberate knock on with no covering defenders. He doesn't slap down the pass then Sarries score in the corner.

There was cover actually.

That's not how the ref and the TMO saw it.

Ospreys doing really well to get on the outside of the Sarries rush defence. Unfortunately they look to be tiring in defence (understandably).

They put in a huge shift against Clermont last week. They are logically tired. I'm surprised at how well their scrum has fared.

Sloppy defense from Saracens here.

Well, those last 2 games showed Ospreys are a very good and proud team and as has been the case for a few seasons now, they have played a very attractive, ambitious brand of rugby in Europe. Surely this will kick start their season domestically.. Watkin is going to be a superstar for sure..

Good team spirit to fight back and grab the two points. That's a real positive. Would have been easy for their heads to drop and no one would have blamed them for fading. That commitment to the cause is something they should be able to build on.

Have to admit,that is probably the proudest I've ever felt for a performance by the Ospreys in adversity, since joining. Considering we had a backrower on the wing, a prop in the backrow and TAFKALP in his best position, at the end of the game, to frighten the European Champions in that manner speaks volumes for our commitment.
To have 2 International back rowers pull out in the last 12 hours (one during the warm up) and have to play a loan player and a Natural 7s players in their positions, and you wouldn't have noticed the drop off in class. Stand up and take a bow Guy Mercer and Sam Cross sterling efforts. As somebody else has said what a player Owen Watkin is and what he's hopefully going to be, if anybody is interested go and have a look at a clip of him on you tube against Glasgow the season before last. It really was a pity he missed all of the last League season.
If for a couple of individual errors, we could quite easily have won that game, it really pains me to say after his 2 tries, but if Dan Evans had been able to hang onto the ball and completed his hat trick and that waste of an NWQ player Brendon Leonard had got that ball out quicker when it was available we could have won that.

Excellent performance from Ospreys ...

Heaf2 wrote:Excellent performance from Ospreys ...

Heaf, I didn't want to complain about the decision, what did you think about the Penalty Try, and more to the point what did you think of the decision to show a view after the match, but not when the decision was relevant that Fonotia was coming around to tackle the player who was going to receive the ball if Dan Evans hadn't touched it. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying it decided the outcome of the game, Dan Evans's dropping the ball and Leonard taking an age to get the ball out were things within our own control that could have won us this game, so don't think my complaint is sour grapes on my part, just want another viewpoint.
Thanks Wayne.

I think it was a bit harsh tbh ... for sure YC and pen, but PT was questionable - the trouble is when players do that they open the door to the subjective calls from the officials.

Have to say the lack of consistency is also an issue as I would have said the Zebo one last week was more a PT than that one ....

[quote="Heaf2"]I think it was a bit harsh tbh ... for sure YC and pen, but PT was questionable - the trouble is when players do that they open the door to the subjective calls from the officials.[/quote

Sorry for being so long coming back Heaf, it was my daughters birthday on Friday and the whole family went out for a Sunday meal, haven't been back long. Thanks for the reply, sorry but don't agree with your sanctions, a penalty yes, but if it was worth a YC it was a Penalty try, I don't think it was a definite try as Fonotia would have at least made contact, but as I said that wasn't the reason for our loss, it was down to our own errors that I've already quoted for you.
Thanks for the interest anyway.
All the best Wayne.

Hi Wayne, interesting comparison in the Wasps game - Mike Brown just got a yellow but no PT given - although in this case I think a try was more than likely - yet more inconsistency ...

Heaf2 wrote:Hi Wayne, interesting comparison in the Wasps game - Mike Brown just got a yellow but no PT given - although in this case I think a try was more than likely - yet more inconsistency ...

Heaf it is definitely the bane of our League (GL) It's ALL countries and ALL Leagues from what I can see, until we can get somebody with impeccable values controlling it, it's going to carry on.

Important injuries hit us at a crucial part of the season
Dan Baker out for probably the whole season as he has to have reconstructive surgery on his knee.
Scott Otten out for up to 8 weeks, a pity as he was really coming on very well.
Kieron Fonotia undergoing HIA protocols, unknown period inactivity, hope it's not long as he and Watkin combining very well atm.
Jeff Hassler undergoing HIA protocols, also unknown period inactivity, not too bad as Giles, Allen and Jay Baker can cover.
Justin Tipuric not available for this weekends match, would have been good to see him up against the Dragons young pretenders.

If it's any consolation, it looks like Ollie Griffiths might be out for us.

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:If it's any consolation, it looks like Ollie Griffiths might be out for us.

He is, 6 weeks

I can't see that confirmed anywhere. Not saying isn't true, just hoping it isn't.

Has Dan baker been capped? Always impressed when no have seen him

carpet baboon wrote:Has Dan baker been capped? Always impressed when no have seen him

Once, and he was bloody awful. He's not that great and was kept out of the team by a Canadian (can't remember his name) last season.

mikey_dragon wrote:

carpet baboon wrote:Has Dan baker been capped? Always impressed when no have seen him

Once, and he was bloody awful. He's not that great and was kept out of the team by a Canadian (can't remember his name) last season.

Mikey, you're a hard taskmaster, his one start was against Japan in 2013, when he was 20 years of age, to say he only has 1 cap is wrong he has 3, twice as replacements, thank f..k you have nothing to do with selection within any organisation in Welsh rugby, I'm really looking forward to seeing you blow a gasket tomorrow when Priestland is named in the Welsh squad for the AIs, which is only right in that he absolutely schooled Patchell last Friday and has had a good start to the season with Bath. The Canadian was Tyler Ardron who wasn't too bad considering he's been snapped up by a S15 Team.

Just to add Tyler played 17 times for us last season 4 times as No 8, 7 as replacement, 3 as a Flanker and 3 times in the 2nd row.
Dan Played 24 times, 16 as the starting No 8, and 8 as a replacement, even though I rated Tyler as the best 8 on our books, it would be unfair and basically wrong to say Tyler kept Dan out of the team as the above figures prove.

wayne wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

carpet baboon wrote:Has Dan baker been capped? Always impressed when no have seen him

Once, and he was bloody awful. He's not that great and was kept out of the team by a Canadian (can't remember his name) last season.

Mikey, you're a hard taskmaster, his one start was against Japan in 2013, when he was 20 years of age, to say he only has 1 cap is wrong he has 3, twice as replacements, thank f..k you have nothing to do with selection within any organisation in Welsh rugby, I'm really looking forward to seeing you blow a gasket tomorrow when Priestland is named in the Welsh squad for the AIs, which is only right in that he absolutely schooled Patchell last Friday and has had a good start to the season with Bath. The Canadian was Tyler Ardron who wasn't too bad considering he's been snapped up by a S15 Team.

Just to add Tyler played 17 times for us last season 4 times as No 8, 7 as replacement, 3 as a Flanker and 3 times in the 2nd row.
Dan Played 24 times, 16 as the starting No 8, and 8 as a replacement, even though I rated Tyler as the best 8 on our books, it would be unfair and basically wrong to say Tyler kept Dan out of the team as the above figures prove.

Thank f**k you aren't involved in selection either, it would be full of Lloyd Ashely's and James King's . I thought his first cap came against Ireland, I forgot about his novelty cap when he was playing semi-pro rugby - a selection I was not a champion of. Really you'd pick Priestland based on one game where he had a good day with the boot and fluffed a certain try? What a stupid idea. I didn't see the whole match but I sincerely doubt he schooled Patchell. I'd be surprised if RP gets selected given how unreliable he is but I certainly wouldn't blow a gasket, I'd only come close to that if I ever again see Aled Davies and your overhyped WOL boy Sam Davies lineup together for Wales.

It was correct as Tyler Ardron kept Baker out of the team until he got injured, and he was quite injury prone. That happened for weeks through September to November if I remember rightly. There was a bonehead on here, maybe a mate of yours, championing Baker to start at 8 for Wales when he was struggling to get off the bench - he was the only one. I said Moriarty should come in to cover 8, only for that choice to be spat upon by said bonehead. It turns out Howley actually listened to me for once as RM came in and did a great job for us. Looks like my selections are pretty good after all .

On another note Wayne, do you think Dan Evans is in line for a recall or is he still considered unreliable?

mikey_dragon wrote:

wayne wrote:

mikey_dragon wrote:

carpet baboon wrote:Has Dan baker been capped? Always impressed when no have seen him

Once, and he was bloody awful. He's not that great and was kept out of the team by a Canadian (can't remember his name) last season.

Mikey, you're a hard taskmaster, his one start was against Japan in 2013, when he was 20 years of age, to say he only has 1 cap is wrong he has 3, twice as replacements, thank f..k you have nothing to do with selection within any organisation in Welsh rugby, I'm really looking forward to seeing you blow a gasket tomorrow when Priestland is named in the Welsh squad for the AIs, which is only right in that he absolutely schooled Patchell last Friday and has had a good start to the season with Bath. The Canadian was Tyler Ardron who wasn't too bad considering he's been snapped up by a S15 Team.

Just to add Tyler played 17 times for us last season 4 times as No 8, 7 as replacement, 3 as a Flanker and 3 times in the 2nd row.
Dan Played 24 times, 16 as the starting No 8, and 8 as a replacement, even though I rated Tyler as the best 8 on our books, it would be unfair and basically wrong to say Tyler kept Dan out of the team as the above figures prove.

Thank f**k you aren't involved in selection either, it would be full of Lloyd Ashely's and James King's . I thought his first cap came against Ireland, I forgot about his novelty cap when he was playing semi-pro rugby - a selection I was not a champion of. Really you'd pick Priestland based on one game where he had a good day with the boot and fluffed a certain try? What a stupid idea. I didn't see the whole match but I sincerely doubt he schooled Patchell. I'd be surprised if RP gets selected given how unreliable he is but I certainly wouldn't blow a gasket, I'd only come close to that if I ever again see Aled Davies and your overhyped WOL boy Sam Davies lineup together for Wales.

It was correct as Tyler Ardron kept Baker out of the team until he got injured, and he was quite injury prone. That happened for weeks through September to November if I remember rightly. There was a bonehead on here, maybe a mate of yours, championing Baker to start at 8 for Wales when he was struggling to get off the bench - he was the only one. I said Moriarty should come in to cover 8, only for that choice to be spat upon by said bonehead. It turns out Howley actually listened to me for once as RM came in and did a great job for us. Looks like my selections are pretty good after all .

On another note Wayne, do you think Dan Evans is in line for a recall or is he still considered unreliable?

Tell me what happened in the lead up to the Priestland fumble on the line? As for your Lloyd Ashley quip I'm down on here many many times advocating his NON selection for the Ospreys never mind Wales, you really are quite deranged. Your hatred for King is also well documented, is it because he kept your lovechild (and rightly so) Lewis Evans out of the Welsh setup. Let me just say I wouldn't select King for the squad tomorrow either. As for Ardron, don't put down that "If I remember rightly", you didn't even know his name in your OP yes he kept Baker out of the team at the start of the season (4 Matches) when he came back in in the new year Baker had the upper hand comprehensively, I also said at the time that Tyler was the best 8 on our books I wouldn't state on my CV that Rob Howley endorsed anything I said.

As for Dan Evans I'm quite happy that Wales have at least 3 players Halfpenny, Williams and Amos who are either better at the moment or will be, possibly 4 with Rhun Williams coming through, Dan will be disappointed but at least he's capped, and finally did you see Sam Davies's set up of 2 tries (yes 2) against the European Champions on Saturday night, Patchell could only dream of making those basic moves. I'm not particularly a TW supporter but if the likes of Henson and Patchell make that squad, that'll be another nail in the coffin of TW as far as I'm concerned.

Priestland kicked it ahead and fumbled it over the line, great form! Hatred for King? Yeah of course. Shanks struggles to get into the Dragons team nowadays, King was never international quality which was my argument. Baker has had half a good season in his career so how you're plucking his sensational form out of thin air I don't know.

I seen one pass to Watkin who powered on for the try. You really think that warrants a call-up? How delusional. This has been his worst season to date and he wasn't much better last season, he was just hyped to the hill by the national rag. Reading on it seems that you think he's better than Patchell? That just confirms your delusion. I would have Henson ahead of Davies, Priestland and Owen Williams, but Wales may only go with to fly-halves in which case it's likely to be Biggar and Patchell.

Baker was and possibly still is the biggest waste of an NDC ever.

Shanks has been injured Mikey, hes only just back to playing in the prem.

munkian wrote:Baker was and possibly still is the biggest waste of an NDC ever.

Shanks has been injured Mikey, hes only just back to playing in the prem.

Munkian, good to see at least you have the GUTS today to leave a comment up for a decent period of time.

If you expected an argument from anybody (especially me) to that first statement, you are sadly mistaken, I'm on record on here first of all when they were initially given and at least twice since, that any of Baker, Thornton or King didn't deserve NDCs, in that IMO the only people that deserve to be on an NDC are players that were likely to be enticed away which none of them are likely, let me say the other player at that time who was put on an NDC was Scott Baldwin, I felt at that time he deserved it, which for the best part of this season and last, it should have been withdrawn.

Munkian if in your second sentence you're saying that Shanks is Lewis Evans, best leave him in the Premiership because that is just about his level.

I wonder which Ospreys team will be selected and turn up for the Welsh derby against the Dragons tomorrow night, if it is the one that have steadily improved in the last 3 matches against Scarlets, Clermont Auvergne and then Saracens, I can see us having a reasonable win, if it is the one of any of our previous GL matches we will lose, there is no need to rest any of our fit players we should IMO go out fully loaded, and personally I would start Scott Baldwin as he will have a point to prove.
Concerning Scott if anybody is interested he has a PC on our website which lasts about 13 minutes, and the vast majority of it is concerning the Lion episode.

Watch Shanks have a stormer against you now

Ospreys team for the derby match tomorrow against the Dragons is as follows
15 Sam Davies, 14 Keelan Giles, 13 Ashley Beck, 12 Owen Watkin, 11 Dan Evans, 10 Dan Biggar, 9 Tom Habberfield, 1 Nicky Smith, 2 Sam Parry, 3 Dmitri Arhip, 4 BBBD, 5 AWJ, 6 Olly Cracknell, 7 Sam Cross and 8 James King with Scott Baldwin, Paul James, Ma'afu Fia, Adam Beard, Rob McCusker, Brendon Leonard, James Hook and Cory Allen on the bench.
Quite strange starting Dan Evans on the wing and Sam Davies at Full Back, good to see Ashley Beck back, I bet he hopes for a decent run without injuries. Really pleased to see 3 proper 2nd rows selected and who knows how that back row will blend, looking forward to this, just hoping for an extension to the upward curve in form.

munkian wrote:Watch Shanks have a stormer against you now

Unlike very many on here, if he does I'll be on here to admit I was wrong.

SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

munkian wrote:SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

Not in answer to this one, but the previous, when I said on a different topic that Priestland had schooled Patchell and he'd been good for the whole season, somebody reckoned that you can't go on one match, so if your Shanks outplays King it still doesn't make him a better player overall, because he's been crap for years:D There is supposed to be a smiley here.

munkian wrote:SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

Yeah and Shanks to plow through that puny weakling Sam Davies and go over for a storming try.

munkian wrote:SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

member the Tovey v Biggar debate? I member...

Breadvan wrote:

munkian wrote:SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

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I remember the 'galacticos' being schooled at Rodney parade

munkian wrote:

Breadvan wrote:

munkian wrote:SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

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I remember the 'galacticos' being schooled at Rodney parade

Quite regularly too. F:censored:in Howell and his galactico tag..

Breadvan wrote:

munkian wrote:

Breadvan wrote:

munkian wrote:SuperGav to give Biggar a masterclass #StillgotIt #Neverleft

member the Tovey v Biggar debate? I member...

I remember the 'galacticos' being schooled at Rodney parade

Quite regularly too. F:censored:in Howell and his galactico tag..

To be fair the Ospreys players weren't used to a noisey crowd.

wayne wrote:

munkian wrote:Watch Shanks have a stormer against you now

Unlike very many on here, if he does I'll be on here to admit I was wrong.

Just watched the game back, and I'm very pleased to say I wasn't wrong, a very average player with absolutely no outstanding facets to his play, James King at least has the capability to be a very good lineout option which he showed yesterday with 4 takes, he messed up one scrum but then again so did Evans, King made a turnover and made a number of yards carrying, whereas Evans primarily got humped back yards whenever he tried to carry.

Evans has just come back from injury mind, first pro14 game in absolutely ages.

Wow, i didn't think that was that bad a side Ospreys put out today (well, on paper..).

Surely, it's time to go for Tandy?

The Ospreys team to play the Scarlets at Parc y Scarlets on Tuesday 26th December 2017, KO 5.35pm, is as follows:

15 Dan Evans

14 Ben John

13 Kieron Fonotia

12 Owen Watkin

11 Jeff Hassler

10 Sam Davies

9 Tom Habberfield



1 Nicky Smith

2 Scott Baldwin

3 Dmitri Arhip

4 Bradley Davies

5 Alun Wyn Jones (Capt)

6 Dan Lydiate

7 Justin Tipuric

8 Olly Cracknell



REPLACEMENTS

16 Scott Otten

17 Paul James

18 Ma’afu Fia

19 Adam Beard

20 Rob McCusker

21 Rhys Webb

22 Dan Biggar

23 Ashley Beck