Glasgow Warriors vs Scarlets

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Where? Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
When? Friday 7:45 kick-off
How? In person, Sky Sports Action, BBC2 Wales or BBC Alba
Why? Because it’s a semi final of Europe’s dominant league

And there's the bonus point

Glasgow haven't turned up. Scarlets aren't even out of second gear.

Glasgow centres look like they've been borrowed from an amateur side.

Best refereeing performance I’ve seen from Lacey for along time ....

I spoke too soon, couldn’t Lacey see the forward pass from Russell...

Scarlets cheating left right and centre. Lacey giving them everything. Useless at picking up offenses. But Glasgow are still dreich. How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.

One of my bug bears is subs getting involved in the game. Stay off the pitch you clowns!

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

We must have a neutral referee for the final.... like Owens.

I can see Glasgow coming back to within a score here.

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth. They’re terrible. Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

Ok, all joking aside.. looks like Glasgow are attempting to do a “Cardiff”....

We’ve got a game here now...

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Wow. Absolute wow. That's a perfectly good try. Shocking shocking decision

tigertattie wrote:Wow. Absolute wow. That's a perfectly good try. Shocking shocking decision

No way.... how could it be a try, when the ball was still in, it was offside, correct call.

No9 wrote:

tigertattie wrote:Wow. Absolute wow. That's a perfectly good try. Shocking shocking decision

No way.... how could it be a try, when the ball was still in, it was offside, correct call.

Scarlet's scrum half rolled the ball onto the line. As soon as the ball touched it there is then no offside.

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Me of all people? What does that mean? What double standards?

tigertattie wrote:Wow. Absolute wow. That's a perfectly good try. Shocking shocking decision

Ref explained that the ball was still in the ruck. Which it looked like to me. So how was it a try? And he needed to roll it forward onto the line so even if it was out it surely would have been a knock on?!

Laceys poor performance is only second to Glasgow right now. Very frustrating to watch.

Excellent play... not sure if he scored, but we’ll worth it..

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Me of all people?   What does that mean?   What double standards?  

You, the guardian of all this moral on 606v2. With you holier than thou sermons on the PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating, etc.

NeilyBroon wrote:Laceys poor performance is only second to Glasgow right now. Very frustrating to watch.

Very much mr brown. Why Glasgow took 60 mins to get started is what has ultimately hurt them

Scarlets going to pieces while Glasgow up the tempo. If Glasgow score it will be a very exciting last few minutes.

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Me of all people?   What does that mean?   What double standards?  

You, the guardian of all this moral on 606v2. With you holier than thou sermons on the PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating, etc.

Pack it in and shake hands....

2 converted try’s and a pen/drop in 4 mins....that would be an escape

Well Glasgow made a game of it in the end...

Well done Scarlets...

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Me of all people?   What does that mean?   What double standards?  

You, the guardian of all this moral on 606v2. With you holier than thou sermons on the PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating, etc.

You must be mixed up, kid.   “The guardian of all this moral on 606v2”.  This doesn’t make sense as a sentence.    “Holier than thou sermons on PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating..”.  
What sermons?  You’re making stuff up.  

I said Scarlets are cheating and Lacey is not picking it up.   Teams cheat.  Welcome to rugby.

What he means pot is that you are a boring old Shiite and are excellent at stating the bleeding obvious or just talking Shiite. Which is most of the time.

Well, that was nonsense on stilts.

Why did DR ever think that standing back and giving Patchell lots of time and space was a good strategy?

On a par with, "No no Archduke Ferdinand don't follow the security guards. Turn here and take this shortcut."

Lacey He's not biased, he's just awful.


Well played Scarlets. Good luck next week.

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Me of all people?   What does that mean?   What double standards?  

You, the guardian of all this moral on 606v2. With you holier than thou sermons on the PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating, etc.

You must be mixed up, kid.   “The guardian of all this moral support on 606v2”.  This doesn’t make sense as a sentence.    “Holier than thou sermons on PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating..”.  
What sermons?  You’re making stuff up.  

I said Scarlets are cheating and Lacey is not picking it up.   Teams cheat.  Welcome to rugby.  

I didn’t say ‘support’. You added that in. I mistyped ‘this’ when it should have read ‘things’. ‘Guardian of all things moral’.

So both teams were cheating. Cool. Nice balanced reporting.

No complaints about the result, got a lesson from Scarlets but God did Lacey not do us any favours.

We may well have taken that at the beginning of the season, we have flattered to deceive at times but Leinster and Scarlets are the current benchmarks in the league. Work to be done for the warriors still.

Didn't see the game - how did Glasgow actually play? Sounds like we saw the worst of Russell?

RDW_Scotland wrote:Didn't see the game - how did Glasgow actually play? Sounds like we saw the worst of Russell?

We saw all of Russell, some great skill and some poor kicks. He was not why we lost though, it was just a lack of intensity for the first half, the game was over before we woke up.

Semis is where we are at the moment, Scarlets and Leinster are the best sides in the league hands down. We may well have taken a semi, especially a home one at the beginning of the season, despite our flying start, we eventually have found our level.

RDW_Scotland wrote:Didn't see the game - how did Glasgow actually play? Sounds like we saw the worst of Russell?

I have up watching shortly into the second half. Scarlets were not up to much. Glasgow defended terribly, got on the wrong side of the ref and dropped the ball in attack.

I was hoping for more of a game. Scarlets were always comfortable without really getting going.

Geen sport voor watjes wrote:What he means pot is that you are a boring old Shiite and are excellent at stating the bleeding obvious or just talking Shiite. Which is most of the time.

I’ll take comfort in that it’s only ‘most of the time’.

Scarlets don't like to do it the easy way. They must be the most successful team in away knock out games. Dont think any other team has even won an away knock out.

I think that's a bit of an understatement gee, Glasgow should be very disappointed with the last two months and the fans with the season due to the constant missed opportunities in Europe and the pro14. Today was a chance for redemption that you'd think the players would have grasped, especially at home. Lacey is a bloody awful referee but there was a huge naivety combined with a lack of execution from Glasgow that Scarlets took advantage of. This seems to be a recurring theme of this season.

DR has a lot to answer for, the Warriors are playing like a group of individuals and not a team like they used to. Their attack has become a lot more brainless and a lot less high risk for payoff. Humphreys has got to go. He did an appalling job with Scotland and is doing nothing to convince me he's doing a better job with Glasgow.

I hope Finn uses the French opportunity to mature. Half of the problem with how Glasgow play at the moment seems to stem from his one-man show attitude. Fine if he's in form and firing on all cylinders, but he needs a plan B if it's not working and needs to think about his team mates.

All in all I'd give Glasgow a C for this season. Purely because they topped their conference and that's it. Lots of work to be done.

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

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Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:

The Oracle wrote:

Pot Hale wrote:Scarlets cheating left right and centre.  Lacey giving them everything.  Useless at picking up offenses.    But Glasgow are still dreich.    How did they get top of the conference?

The most one-sided semifinal I’ve seen in years.  

Standard moan.

Truth.  They’re terrible.  Harem scarem stuff from both sides with one luckier than the other.

You know what I mean. Accusing the Scarlets of cheating. Double standards from you, of all people.

Me of all people?   What does that mean?   What double standards?  

You, the guardian of all this moral on 606v2. With you holier than thou sermons on the PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating, etc.

You must be mixed up, kid.   “The guardian of all this moral support on 606v2”.  This doesn’t make sense as a sentence.    “Holier than thou sermons on PRO14 threads about not accusing refs of cheating..”.  
What sermons?  You’re making stuff up.  

I said Scarlets are cheating and Lacey is not picking it up.   Teams cheat.  Welcome to rugby.  

I didn’t say ‘support’. You added that in. I mistyped ‘this’ when it should have read ‘things’. ‘Guardian of all things moral’.

So both teams were cheating. Cool. Nice balanced reporting.

I had already deleted ‘support’. I said Scarlets cheating and Lacey not picking it up. He was picking up Glasgow offenses. I also said they were still dreich.

There is a lot of work to be done, but I am not going to judge a coach on a single season, especially bearing in mind he arrived late and missed most of pre season.

Most sensible judges always had this down as a transitional season and so it has proven, we beat the sides we were meant to beat but fell short against the better teams.

We are certainly a bit under powered and a lot of our problems stem from that, maybe our recruitment over the summer might try and address that.

This result probably was not unexpected though given the way we have played over the back end of the season. if we develop anything next year it needs to be how to peak properly, we probably put to much into games we did not need to, especially when on that winning run before xmas. Like last year, a lot of players have come back from the 6N with not a lot left in the tank. Maybe things will be better on that front as Edinburgh start to take more of the international slots.

Kingshu wrote:Scarlets don't like to do it the easy way. They must be the most successful team in away knock out games. Dont think any other team has even won an away knock out.

So far we are the only team to win away in the playoffs. Hoping Munster do it tomorrow to be honest. But either way the Pro14 have their marketing sorted for next weekend “This is revenge” for last season or for Europe.

But back to the game, fair play to Glasgow I can’t think of a game where a side has been 28-8 up with 20 left on the clock, and their fans have been bricking it so much. Honestly think we struck it lucky with injuries (Hogg and Halfpenny out), and if both sides hit that game mid season the result would’ve gone the other way.

Oh I'm not saying sack Rennie. I'm just saying I think a lot has to do with his management style. The example you used was probably the best way to describe it, the lack of player rotation and putting everything into every game unnecessarily. I also think the cohesion in the team needs to be found again.

Hopefully he's learnt from this season and makes the most of the players he has next season.

I still stand by my Humphreys comment though, he's undone any good work done by McFarland and has not proven himself as a competent forwards coach.

Well its being stated that its between Pivac and Rennie to succeed Gats in the Welsh job...


PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, dont pick Rennie...

No9 wrote:Well its being stated that its between Pivac and Rennie to succeed Gats in the Welsh job...


PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, dont pick Rennie...

How could they not give the job to Pivac?

I'd be very surprised if it was Rennie. Pivac basically has his name on the door already

In the real world I'd agree.... but we all know that the WRU dont live in the real world

carpet baboon wrote:

No9 wrote:Well its being stated that its between Pivac and Rennie to succeed Gats in the Welsh job...


PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, dont pick Rennie...

How could they not give the job to Pivac?

He’s an honoury Turk. The last time they took a Turk it flopped. Erm yes Rennie or Boyde, or Dai Young, erm Holley...even Tandy first please.

Well done to the scarlets, deserved winners. Glasgows pack and defence didn't show up. Physically dominated and didn't adapt quick enough to lackeys refereeing. Back row performance was poor, lacked a big ball carrier. Wilson did nothing and his leadership is not up to scratch. Fagerson needs to learn how to scrum, poor yet again, scrums improved when he went off. Needs a hard conditioning period during the off season. Needs to strengthen his back and core if he wants to improve.

Got to laugh - a few hours after that performance Glasgow decide to put a season ticket renewal advert on Facebook. It's not gone down so well!

Well done Scarlets, not afraid wen playing away from home (big win in Europe against Bath plus the play-offs last year). Piviac has them believing if they play their game it will work anywhere. With the injuries Leinster have and the bluntness of Munster we could see back to back champions.

Glasgow started poor which seemed to happen more as the season wore on. Things to work on but it was always going to be hard without Townsend

Glasgow have gone backwards slightly in the last two season, not quite sure what's going on there. This season they introduced a new coach and seemed to have been disrupted by injuries. A winning coach like Rennie is certainly the guy to bring them back to the top and he has the players, so hopefully less injuries next season.

Pivac is next in line for the Wales job. Not so much for his trophy hunting, but how well he develops young players for top level rugby and moulds them into a successful team. Good coach. Not Dai Young unless it's an assistant role, he's underachieved with one of the English Premiership's biggest budgets.

formerly known as Sam wrote: Scarlets were not up to much.

Yeah, they were a bit sh1t