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Post by jimbobgooner Mon May 20, 2019 3:33 am

First topic message reminder :

Sam Curran is included in a 14-man squad to travel to Beckenham for the Specsavers County Championship fixture against Kent starting on 20th May.
Matt Dunn could make his first appearance of the domestic campaign, as he is Surrey’s second change from the squad that was announced to face Somerset in Taunton last week.
Stuart Meaker is left out completely from the last squad.
Jade Dernbach (calf) and Amar Virdi (side) are not yet fully fit and Jordan Clark is not considered due to his poor form.
FULL SQUAD
Rory Burns (c)
Gareth Batty
Scott Borthwick
Rikki Clarke
Sam Curran
Matt Dunn
Dean Elgar
Ben Foakes
Will Jacks
Conor McKerr
Morne Morkel
Ryan Patel
Mark Stoneman
Freddie van den Berg
Burger van, Dunn and Jacks to miss out
As said on the pervious match thread Patel as the 4th seamer is not advisable
Harsh on jacks but with baby face at 7 its hard to fit him in.
Over to you chaps  thumbsup


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Post by jimbobgooner Wed May 22, 2019 3:50 am

hundreds today for Jamie smith and Jordan clark clap clap clap

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed May 22, 2019 4:26 am

from 197 for 1 to 294 all out another excellent comeback Very Happy

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed May 22, 2019 4:28 am

3 overs left in the day

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Post by guildfordbat Wed May 22, 2019 4:37 am

jimbobgooner wrote:from 197 for 1 to 294 all out another excellent comeback Very Happy

That really is something, especially in good batting conditions at Beckenham. Dickson scored 300+ there a year or so back.

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Post by jimbobgooner Wed May 22, 2019 4:48 am

STUMPS 11 for 0 a lead of 156

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Post by guildfordbat Wed May 22, 2019 5:30 am

jimbobgooner wrote:STUMPS 11 for 0 a lead of 156

We're in a good place.

My recipe for tomorrow:
Bat sensibly in the morning session, push on after lunch and give it some welly for an hour after tea to try and get the lead up to about 480. Then declare and have a dozen+ overs at 'em before stumps. What can go wrong?

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Wed May 22, 2019 5:54 am

Must say I'm really pleased by that. Only able to check in occasionally, and was feeling fairly depressed on checking shortly after tea to find that the Kent score was about 220 for 2. Even Stevens was dismissed cheaply - and that doesn't happen too often when he's playing against Surrey!

A lot of credit must surely go to Sam Curran for the control he exerted and to Batty for starting the collapse.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Wed May 22, 2019 6:08 am

guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:STUMPS 11 for 0 a lead of 156

We're in a good place.

My recipe for tomorrow:
Bat sensibly in the morning session, push on after lunch and give it some welly for an hour after tea to try and get the lead up to about 480. Then declare and have a dozen+ overs at 'em before stumps. What can go wrong?

Would agree with this - a long long way to go before we can entertain winning the match, you sense taking 10 wickets even on day 4 will be tough on this wicket, but we can take the loss out of the equation tomorrow at least...hopefully anyways!
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Post by jimbobgooner Thu May 23, 2019 12:53 am

300 lead 6 wkts left

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu May 23, 2019 1:26 am

now in danger of losing this mad

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Post by LondonTiger Thu May 23, 2019 1:33 am

jimbobgooner wrote:now in danger of losing this mad

Nah. Just a question of whether you give yourselves enough time to bowl them out.

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu May 23, 2019 2:06 am

50 for baby face clap

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Post by guildfordbat Thu May 23, 2019 2:16 am

Relax, JimBob. Very unlikely we'll lose from here.

At tea, we lead by 357 with 4 wickets left. In some ways I would have liked more wickets in hand to allow us go for a real blitz from the restart. However, it shows you can still take wickets on this track.

My suggested approach now: try and bat for another 16 overs to get the lead nicely over 400 and then declare to give 'em 14 tonight.

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu May 23, 2019 3:17 am

guildfordbat wrote:Relax, JimBob. Very unlikely we'll lose from here.
sorry Guildford it was Jacks getting out that made me nervous Smile

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Post by jimbobgooner Thu May 23, 2019 3:21 am

426 to win

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Post by guildfordbat Thu May 23, 2019 3:24 am

jimbobgooner wrote:426 to win

Think that gives 'em 17 overs tonight. Would settle for one wicket but two would be very handy ....

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Post by guildfordbat Thu May 23, 2019 4:46 am

One wicket taken and a nightwatchman in to hopefully knock over early tomorrow. That'll do for now ... although not going to be easy, mind.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Thu May 23, 2019 8:34 am

Hard fought day - at several points Surrey struggling to get any sort of momentum. But good to see Sam Curran contributing well as an all rounder. Useful to have dismissed one quality Kent batsman this evening.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 23, 2019 9:46 pm

Sam Curran has done his hamstring Sad
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 23, 2019 9:53 pm

Now Bell Drummond edges one behind off Clarke and is given not out

and now a very good looking LBW not given!!
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Thu May 23, 2019 10:09 pm

and finally on the 3rd time he's out, Bell Drummond is actually given out by the umpire and Clarke gets his man
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Post by jimbobgooner Thu May 23, 2019 11:46 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Sam Curran has done his hamstring Sad
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Post by Gooseberry Fri May 24, 2019 12:10 am

If, as looks fairly likely now, Kent do managed to salvage a draw then Surreys season really is in a complete free-fall isn't . Even if Currans injury is fairly minor its yet another blow that makes it harder to see how they will turn this around.
Theres quite a few senior players, undoutably on big contracts, who just havent turned up this year in either format.

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Post by thegooch7 Fri May 24, 2019 12:40 am

I know it's a long shot having seen him bowl, but has Borthwick give it up? Surely a bit of joke leg spin on a 4th day pitch is worth a go, especially with a bowler down

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 12:59 am

4 more wkts needed


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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri May 24, 2019 1:46 am

Gooseberry wrote:If, as looks fairly likely now, Kent do managed to salvage a draw then Surreys season really is in a complete free-fall isn't .  Even if Currans injury is fairly minor its yet another blow that makes it harder to see how they will turn this around.
Theres quite a few senior players, undoutably on big contracts, who just havent turned up this year in either format.

"free fall"

A bit of an exaggeration, but certainly hasn't started as well as they'd have hoped. Of course, it is always difficult to replicate form of the previous year, and there does seem to be more injuries about the camp this year
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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2019 2:11 am

At what point, if any, do Kent accelerate and see if they can win it.

And then it's our trip to Guildford next week
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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 2:36 am

Afro wrote:At what point, if any, do Kent accelerate and see if they can win it.

And then it's our trip to Guildford next week

Hi Afro - having been well behind on first innings and lost 3 second innings wicket by lunch today, I'm sure Kent won't try to accelerate and will be happy to settle for the draw.

Yeah, the Guildford game is already looking very important. A draw would probably be fine for you (with 3 wins out of 4 so far) whilst we really have to win (with 0 wins out of 3 unless we produce some magic in today's final session). One thing I would say - you often get a positive result there.

Hi Goochie - Alec Stewart was bigging up Borthwick's leg spin a few weeks ago, saying he had been working on it in the winter. Especially with Sam Curran injured, I would have given him and Jacks a bowl this afternoon, if only to see if one of them could make something happen.

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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 2:42 am

Kent go 6 down as Morkel gets skipper Kuhn!

4 more needed in 26 overs. Not in the bag by any stretch but doable ....

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Post by Afro Fri May 24, 2019 2:44 am

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Afro wrote:At what point, if any, do Kent accelerate and see if they can win it.

And then it's our trip to Guildford next week

Hi Afro - having been well behind on first innings and lost 3 second innings wicket by lunch today, I'm sure Kent won't try to accelerate and will be happy to settle for the draw.

Yeah, the Guildford game is already looking very important. A draw would probably be fine for you (with 3 wins out of 4 so far) whilst we really have to win (with 0 wins out of 3 unless we produce some magic in today's final session). One thing I would say - you often get a positive result there.

Hi Goochie - Alec Stewart was bigging up Borthwick's leg spin a few weeks ago, saying he had been working on it in the winter. Especially with Sam Curran injured, I would have given him and Jacks a bowl this afternoon, if only to see if one of them could make something happen.

I posted literally seconds before I realised the new ball was due and then Morkel took the 5th wicket. Pretty sure Kent will try and bat it out now. Just thought if they got to 150 needed with 6 wickets left and 2 set batsmen, they might have been tempted
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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 3:41 am

Elgar strikes Shocked

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 3:43 am

sadly only 11 overs left Sad

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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 3:50 am

jimbobgooner wrote:sadly only 11 overs left Sad

Yeah, overs running out. Stevens is often destructive against us but here it's his stickability that is the problem.

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 3:52 am

guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:sadly only 11 overs left Sad

Yeah, overs running out. Stevens is often destructive against us but here it's his stickability that is the problem.
yep the injury to baby face has stopped us from winning this game Guilford

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 4:13 am

8 down 4.1 overs left

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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 4:14 am

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guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:sadly only 11 overs left Sad

Yeah, overs running out. Stevens is often destructive against us but here it's his stickability that is the problem.
yep the injury to baby face has stopped us from winning this game Guilford

I can't say for sure that we would have won but Curran's injury most definitely has not helped.

If he's still crocked, it also makes selection tricky for the Warks game next week. He brings a balance to the side that no one else really does.

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 4:16 am

guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:sadly only 11 overs left Sad

Yeah, overs running out. Stevens is often destructive against us but here it's his stickability that is the problem.
yep the injury to baby face has stopped us from winning this game Guilford

I can't say for sure that we would have won but Curran's injury most definitely has not helped.

If he's still crocked, it also makes selection tricky for the Warks game next week. He brings a balance to the side that no one else really does.
with 8 down I think we can safely say it did Guildford thumbsup

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 4:39 am

Match Drawn

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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 4:47 am

jimbobgooner wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:sadly only 11 overs left Sad

Yeah, overs running out. Stevens is often destructive against us but here it's his stickability that is the problem.
yep the injury to baby face has stopped us from winning this game Guilford

I can't say for sure that we would have won but Curran's injury most definitely has not helped.

If he's still crocked, it also makes selection tricky for the Warks game next week. He brings a balance to the side that no one else really does.
with 8 down I think we can safely say it did Guildford thumbsup

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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 4:50 am

Just to add - Kent battled hard today and deserve credit for that.

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Post by jimbobgooner Fri May 24, 2019 4:51 am

guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:
jimbobgooner wrote:sadly only 11 overs left Sad

Yeah, overs running out. Stevens is often destructive against us but here it's his stickability that is the problem.
yep the injury to baby face has stopped us from winning this game Guilford

I can't say for sure that we would have won but Curran's injury most definitely has not helped.

If he's still crocked, it also makes selection tricky for the Warks game next week. He brings a balance to the side that no one else really does.
with 8 down I think we can safely say it did Guildford thumbsup

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Post by Gooseberry Fri May 24, 2019 5:22 am

Olly I'm not just talking about the CC which they were favourites for not just based on last season but also other squads generally getting weaker too. But also the RLC which was a total car crash for them.
Granted they have been hit harder by the world cup than others but even then they ooze quality.
Losing Pope has obviously been a huge blow but I look at those senior players like Morkel and Foakes who were massive last year but have stuttered a bit so far this season. Batty too isnt looking up to much, and whilst I guess the plan would've been to have vidri be the first choice they are being hit harder by that injury than might've been expected if he wasn't fadeing.

To be the second worst team in 50 over cricket and already be almost no hopes in the CC by this point is far worse than the biggest pessimists would've predicted.

And when I said freefall I was also indicating that things are continuing to slide rather than get better. Although they weren't far short in the end the loss of Curran is yet another blow, as is ( purely from a short term Surrey persepctive) Tom earning his world cup spot.
I cant imagine morale is too sharp either, and things could go very wrong if players lose faith in the team.

Doomed I tell yah!

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri May 24, 2019 8:39 am

Gooseberry wrote:

Batty too isnt looking up to much, and whilst I guess the plan would've been to have vidri be the first choice they are being hit harder by that injury than might've been expected if he wasn't fadeing.


Goose - can't see what that's all about.  Batty will be 42 just after the end of this season.  So who is it that might have been expecting him to show up to this match as a 36 year old?  Erm

But I do agree that with all these injuries and international call ups Surrey are certainly being hit harder than might have been expected if we had been able to call upon Martin Bicknell in peak condition....

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Post by LondonTiger Fri May 24, 2019 4:37 pm

Martin Bicknell in any condition would improve matters Run


Throw in Darren too.  drumroll

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Post by guildfordbat Fri May 24, 2019 6:19 pm

LondonTiger wrote:Martin Bicknell in any condition would improve matters Run


Throw in Darren too.  drumroll

A more detailed analysis might link our decline in form to exactly the time that Yorks poached Mat Pillans from us. Whistle

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Post by LondonTiger Fri May 24, 2019 7:00 pm

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LondonTiger wrote:Martin Bicknell in any condition would improve matters Run


Throw in Darren too.  drumroll

A more detailed analysis might link our decline in form to exactly the time that Yorks poached Mat Pillans from us. Whistle

Fair point. We seem to be playing better since his arrival too. As he barely played for you, and has barely played for us he must make a mean cuppa cuppa cake

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