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Post by Born Slippy Wed 20 Nov 2019, 5:02 pm

Ok, I know this forum is struggling but amazing that the new format Davis Cup has started, with GB and most of the top players in action, and there isn’t even a thread!

Excellent win for Murray earlier over an inspired opponent. Sadly Evans then lost from a set and 5-3 up so all resting on the doubles now.

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Post by sirfredperry Thu 21 Nov 2019, 8:31 am

Very exciting first rubber for GB, with the GB doubles pair fighting back in the second set to win in straight sets.

Formula change to best of three tiebreak sets is an improvement, but scheduling all over the place, with GB not playing until Wednesday and then having all their matches crammed into the last days .

They are at it again today, taking on Kazakhstan, with a win guaranteeing a q-f place and even a 2-1 defeat possibly ensuring a "fastest loser" place.

Murray apparently exhausted after his fightback win (4-1 down in final set and then 4-1 down in tiebreak). Wonder if Kyle will pay instead today.

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Post by sirfredperry Thu 21 Nov 2019, 9:06 am

Unsurprisingly after his heroics yesterday, Murray has been replaced today by Edmund.

Spain, Australia and Canada are so far thru to the quarters. GB will probably face Germany if they get thru today.


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Post by sirfredperry Thu 21 Nov 2019, 3:26 pm

Edmund had a good 3 and 3 win but Evans lost after being a set up for the second day running.

Doubles will now decide the whole thing, with GB 5-1 up in first set as I write.

Think if GB get thru that Evans will be dropped for the q-f. Murray will have had a day off and Edmund played well today by all accounts.

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Post by sirfredperry Thu 21 Nov 2019, 4:16 pm

GB win the doubles to pass into the q-fs. Straight sets, too.

Think it will be Murray and Edmund in the singles for the q-f. GB had perhaps more trouble than they anticipated in their group. But Kazak had two reasonably highly-ranked guys and Murray's Dutch opponent was mighty impressive.

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Post by Born Slippy Thu 21 Nov 2019, 4:59 pm

On paper, Kazakhstan were fairly even for singles, so I don’t think today was tougher than expected, without Murray. Yesterday was though - both the Dutch singles players did really well.

Full QF are:

Serbia v Russia
Australia v Canada
GB v Germany
Spain v Argentina

Australia v Canada is this evening’s match. Most matches look relatively tough to call, although Spain should be too strong for Argentina.

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Post by sirfredperry Fri 22 Nov 2019, 9:05 am

Kyrgios pulled out injured and Australia went down to Canada in the q-f.

Crazy scheduling meant one match this week finished at 4.04am. I quite like this format, but they have to get the scheduling sorted (earlier starts, more courts, longer tournament?).


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Post by sirfredperry Sat 23 Nov 2019, 7:27 am

GB thru' to the s-fs where they will meet.....Spain.

Excellent straight sets win by Edmund and then Evans beat Struff in three to make it 2-0 to GB

Evans for the third match running was a set up and was up against it in the third set but held firm to come thru in the tiebreak.

Wonder if we'll see Murray back today. He was apparently sluggish in his only match so far and has admitted he's overweight.

The good news is that GB have qualified for the Davis Cup end-of-season finals for 2020.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 23 Nov 2019, 9:05 am

Well GB have already exceeded what I expected from them here. Anything else now is a bonus. A chance for Edmund to get some wins under his belt and boost confidence and Evans tested to the full. Credit to Leon Smith for sticking with Evans. As for will Murray be selected today? A tough one. If not fit is a match against Nadal what he needs or what GB need? I have my doubts. There again he probably stands a better chance winning against Nadal than Edmund or Evans. I will leave it up to Leon Smith.
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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 23 Nov 2019, 4:07 pm

Team GB unchanged for this evening's semi. Edmund and Evans in the Singles and if needed Skupski and Murray in the Doubles.
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Post by alfie Sat 23 Nov 2019, 6:38 pm

Excellent performance - again - from Edmund clap One - nil

Nasal will surely beat Evans but it will be all to play for in the doubles...

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sat 23 Nov 2019, 6:42 pm

alfie wrote:Excellent performance - again - from Edmund clap   One - nil

Nasal will surely beat Evans but it will be all to play for in the doubles...

Yes a solid win that. Played Feliciano (or is it Deliciano) Lopez who was a last minute replacement for Carreno Busta who took unwell just before the match. Relieves the pressure a bit on Evans for his match against Nadal knowing the match is not all about that match.
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Post by Marky Sat 23 Nov 2019, 8:48 pm

Evans was never going to beat Nadal. As you said Craig, Edmund took the pressure off him.

I feel like Murray replaces Evans if we make the final though.

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Post by sirfredperry Sat 23 Nov 2019, 8:53 pm

Evans shared the first four games and then lost the last eight. But doubt anyone's surprised.

If this was anyone other than Spain playing at home you would have to say GB were firm favourites in the doubles. I still think GB will get thru to the final, but it may be tough.

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Post by Marky Sat 23 Nov 2019, 8:56 pm

Surely Nadal is in the doubles for Spain, like yesterday

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Post by Born Slippy Sat 23 Nov 2019, 9:07 pm

sirfredperry wrote:Evans shared the first four games and then lost the last eight. But doubt anyone's surprised.

If this was anyone other than Spain playing at home you would have to say GB were firm favourites in the doubles. I still think GB will get thru to the final, but it may be tough.

I’d expect Nadal/Granollers to be too strong in all honesty. Rafa is a far better doubles player than might be expected and it’s a big ask of Skupski to handle this atmosphere.

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Post by Marky Sat 23 Nov 2019, 9:11 pm

Nadal and Lopez for Spain

I do wonder if we should have gone with Murray/Murray

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Post by Born Slippy Sat 23 Nov 2019, 11:16 pm

Brilliant match so far. Looks like a second tiebreak coming up.

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Post by MrInvisible Sat 23 Nov 2019, 11:29 pm

So what's everyone's verdict on this revamped Davis Cup? I was v sceptical about the changes (think they should have kept it as it was but run it every 2 years instead) and feared the worst when I saw defending champions Croatia didn't have Cilic or Coric playing.

However, from what I've read it looks like the new format appears to be working and has served up some good matches. Nadal and Murray in action (though in different matches) in semi-final is pretty good sign.

Has BBC been showing any of it or do you need Amazon or Eurosport?

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Post by Born Slippy Sat 23 Nov 2019, 11:35 pm

It’s a much better format in my view and the tennis in the last couple of days has been phenomenal.

Spain through. Hard luck for the British pair, who were probably the better pair, but lose 67 67. Outstanding from Rafa.

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Post by Marky Sat 23 Nov 2019, 11:44 pm

Skupski played well but I think it was the wrong choice to leave Andy Murray out of the whole semi final. Evans hasnt been in great form and as soon as Nadal was confirmed for the doubles I'd have put the Murray's together to counter Nadal

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Post by sirfredperry Sun 24 Nov 2019, 7:16 am

Really thought GB would win the doubles. But Spain at home, with Rafa playing, was always going to be difficult.

Nothing wrong with the format - just the scheduling. GB didn't play until Wednesday and then had to play every day. Matches need to start earlier.

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Post by CaledonianCraig Sun 24 Nov 2019, 8:41 am

A spirited effort by GB against one of the powerhouses of world tennis on their own soil.

I too was very sceptical about the new format but I think it works. Its better having all the teams together at one venue for the tournament - it sort of makes if feel more inclusive and brings more interest on each tie.. I do agree the scheduling needs work and maybe even stretched to a two week tournament but I can't see how they'd work that into the annual schedule.
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Post by Marky Sun 24 Nov 2019, 8:45 am

They wouldn't need to make it a 2 week event. Just start it 2 days earlier. Minor tweaks.

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Post by lydian Sun 24 Nov 2019, 9:36 pm

Long long time since I posted about tennis...just wanted to say hi, hope everyone is well and great news for Rafa & Spain today (yes still a Rafa fan...).
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Post by sirfredperry Mon 25 Nov 2019, 8:28 am

lydian wrote:Long long time since I posted about tennis...just wanted to say hi, hope everyone is well and great news for Rafa & Spain today (yes still a Rafa fan...).
Cheers
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Good to hear from you. How long can Rafa stay number one? Will be posting a predictions-for-2020 topic soon, so please contribute.

Almost fated that Spain would win the new-look Davis Cup but I wonder what would have happened if GB had managed to get one of those set points in the second-set tiebreak in the semis.

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Post by alfie Mon 25 Nov 2019, 9:42 am

Yes I liked the new format...agree a couple more days would be a good tweak to make it fairer to all.
Spain good value for their win: Nadal superb. GB should be pretty happy with their effort , especially with AM taking only a minor part. As should Canada - not a traditional tennis powerhouse !

Presume the venue will be shared around but not sure what the plans are ?

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