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Post by Just Gareth Thu 07 Jan 2021, 2:33 pm

First topic message reminder :

The season opening Australian Grand Prix & the Chinese Grand Prix have been postponed.

Bahrain Grand Prix on the 28th March to be the first race of the 2021 season.

Formula 1 to revert to 2pm race start times at European races this year.

F1 practice sessions will be shortened to one hour during Fridays across the 2021 season.

Cognizant have been announced as Aston Martin’s new title sponsor. They will be called ‘Aston Martin Cognizant Formula One Team’.

Alex Albon will drive in DTM this season, on selected race weekends

Lando Norris has confirmed he has contracted Covid, while staying in, Dubai.


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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:29 pm

Sainz no pen

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:32 pm

Seems fair enough really. The aids as above failed but didn't notice the other indicators
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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:34 pm

I think Verstappen got burnt as his engineer didn’t even tell him about Gasly’s car being on the straight. Reading the fia document, the team didn’t inform Verstappen. Poor showing from Red Bull.

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:35 pm

Curious as to how sainz escaped though.

This is still Bottas Vs Max I guess overall
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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:38 pm

1. Hamilton
2. Gasly
3. Alonso
4. Norris
5. Bottas
6. Sainz
7. Verstappen
8. Tsunoda
9. Ocon
10. Vettel

Revised top 10

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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:41 pm

Jeff Navarro wrote:Poor showing from Red Bull

Unsurprisingly, Horner moaning and saying it’s an FIA balls up 😂

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:45 pm

GSC wrote:Curious as to how sainz escaped though.

This is still Bottas Vs Max I guess overall
Sainz telemetry showed he backed off despite not seeing the yellow flag

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:47 pm

Then why did they need to send a summons for him and wait overnight?
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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 12:52 pm

GSC wrote:Then why did they need to send a summons for him and wait overnight?
The FIA steering wheel warning system wasn’t working properly. So better to be safe than sorry.
IIRC Bottas, Sainz and Verstappen where running in that order.

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Nov 2021, 1:18 pm

Wonder why Bottas' penalty gets applied first
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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 1:28 pm

FIA incompetence is unrelenting. Bottas listed as P5 when he’s actually P6.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 1:29 pm

GSC wrote:Wonder why Bottas' penalty gets applied first
He was ahead on the track of verstappen

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Nov 2021, 1:35 pm

If he's p6 it didn't get applied first
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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 1:36 pm

I’d imagine Max gets Bottas now into T1

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Nov 2021, 1:47 pm

That's weird, I thought the FIA was rigged against Mercedes...

Hamilton should sprint away and run - just whether Max can get to P2 or if Bottas can hold him off
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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:06 pm

Max up to 4th
Alonso p2

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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:09 pm

Gasly moves over

P2 Good result for Verstappen if it stays the same

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:11 pm

Soft tyres not the right tyres at this stage

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:12 pm

Verstappen up to second so the penalty nullified

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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:25 pm

Everyone else is so slow. Relatively boring race.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:33 pm

Yeah this is really quite boring after Max’s good start
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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 2:55 pm

Bottas puncture

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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 3:29 pm

Dominant win for Lewis. Damage limitation for Max. Good drive from Alonso.

Highly forgettable race though.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 3:29 pm

Hamilton wins
Verstappen +fl
Alonso
Perez
Ocon
Stroll
Sainz
LeClerc
Norris
Vettel

Verstappen lead down to 8pts
Mercedes lead down to 5pts


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Post by Mad for Chelsea Sun 21 Nov 2021, 3:33 pm

Pretty dull race. Hamilton never in any trouble at all. Good recoveries from Verstappen and Perez, albeit made easier by Bottas's shocking start. Nice podium for Alonso.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 3:39 pm

Can’t be racing here again. Magnificent MotoGP track. Not much in it for F1 cars.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 21 Nov 2021, 3:39 pm

Don't hold out much more hope for Jeddah being more entertaining looking at the layout of that (albeit I guess more chance of a safety car with the barriers being so close).

Damage limitation for Verstappen, but unless Red Bull finds some pace from somewhere, it's tough to see Lewis not winning these final two races providing he/Mercedes make no mistakes

Great results for Alonso/Alpine today, a superb drive from him! Good race for Lance Stroll too.
Obviously another total disaster for Bottas
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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 4:02 pm

Good Golly I'm Olly wrote:Don't hold out much more hope for Jeddah being more entertaining looking at the layout of that (albeit I guess more chance of a safety car with the barriers being so close)

Looks a horrific track. Definitely suits Mercedes, but safety cars will be an inevitability with those barriers.

I think if the current form guide continues, I can only imagine Max resorting to one thing…..

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Post by GSC Sun 21 Nov 2021, 4:58 pm

...a repeat of Silverstone or Hungary?
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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 5:08 pm

GSC wrote:...a repeat of Silverstone or Hungary?

Maybe, Monza

Max was pretty helpless today. I just can’t envisage he is just going to accept his fate, without some kind of intervention. He’s ruthless, and this season has been toxic, both on & off the track. It wouldn’t surprise me, that’s all I’m saying.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 5:39 pm

Horner received an official warning from the FIA for the needless outburst against that poor marshal waving the yellow flag.

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Post by No name Bertie Sun 21 Nov 2021, 6:25 pm

I didn't understand why Red Bull pitted Perez so early (mediums to hard) after he made it to P3 and other drivers were still managing on the softs - that dropped Perez well back in the pack.  Then Bottas who had a terrible start recovered well to get to P4 - then P3 after Perez pitted - was just left out there until his tyres (medium) failed.  I thought maybe they were going to put him on softs but they put him on the hards.  Bottas was the last to pit by some distance.

Hamilton and Verstappen were the class of the field.   Alpine did brilliantly and got a podium plus 25 points overall to put them well ahead of the AlphaTauris in the Constructor's championship (fight for fifth place).

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Post by Jeff Navarro Sun 21 Nov 2021, 6:55 pm

For my money the championship battle is essentially over, Hamilton’s been insanely quick these last two races - this was the old engine as well.
The only hope for Red Bull that Qatar was raced on the three hardest compounds C1, C2, and C3.
Mercedes are pretty much unbeatable on the C1 tyre during the hybrid era.
Saudi Arabia will revert back to the C2, C3 and C4. And a potentially unknown surface.
That said Mercedes, barring errors, are running away with it.

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Post by Just Gareth Sun 21 Nov 2021, 10:47 pm

Jeff Navarro wrote:For my money the championship battle is essentially over

That said Mercedes, barring errors, are running away with it.
Can’t really agree. Yes, Mercedes have the best package right now, but points on board at this stage, is still a good place to be in. Historically, many championships have u-turned in the blink of an eye. One mistake, one mechanical, or one unfortunately timed SC, can pretty much dictate where this title goes now. The constructors title looked like being a tough ask for RB after qualifying, and by Sunday night, it’s been cut to five points.

It’s all up in the air, and all outcomes still possible, in both championships.

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Post by Jeff Navarro Mon 22 Nov 2021, 12:25 am

I understand where you’re coming from. And I’d hazard a guess that Newey will be working like mad on that rear wing in these next 7 days or so - both Verstappen and Perez had to use Mexico rear wing in Qatar.
But I can’t see where Red Bull can make up 0.4 just with their skinny wing.
They might sneak the WCC but I’ve got Hamilton as having 6 fingers on the WDC.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Today at 11:04 am

Terrible news about the death of Sir Frank Williams - I guess not wholly unexpected, but still very sad to read. A true giant of the F1 world
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