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Post by bsando Wed 20 Dec 2023, 7:27 pm



...what a load of mince!

The Annual 1872 (annihilation of the Weege disguised in the baseless form of camaraderie) Cup

"Nae man can tether time or tide:
The hour approaches Tam maun ride"

ROUND ONE
Glasgow Home
Friday 22nd Dec
Scotstoun Stadium
KO 19:35

ROUND TWO
Edinburgh Home
Saturday 30th Dec
Murrayfield
KO 3pm

TEAMS

Glasgow Warriors

McKay, Jones, Tuipulotu (c), McDowall, Rowe, Thompson, Horne; Bhatti, Turner, Z Fagerson, Cummings, Gray, Miller, Darge, Vailanu.
Replacements: Matthews, McBeth, Kebble, Peterson, Williamson, Venter, Afshar, Jordan.

Edinburgh

Goosen, Graham, Currie, Lang, Van der Merwe, Healy, Price; Schoeman, Ashman, Nel, Young, Gilchrist (c), Ritchie, Watson, Mata.
Replacements: Cherry, Venter, Rae, Sykes, Crosbie, Vellacott, Bennett, Boffelli.


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Post by jimbopip Wed 20 Dec 2023, 7:56 pm

Thanks bsando clap

However Headscratch I'm  slightly confused,  I shall adopt a Cruella Braverman tone here, ALL RIGHT THINKING DECENT BRITISH PEOPLE ARE APPALLED by your misappropriation of The Annual Slaughter Of The Effeminates as your sub-title.
Even more confusing is your cultural misappropriation of that son of the west, Robert Burns.
Everyone knows that,
"When chapman billies leave the street
And drouthy neebors neebors meet
As market days are drawing late
And folk begin to tak the gate.."

Is a description of Ayr toon cennar on a Friday as the shops shut up and everyone grabs a chippie on the way home to enjoy the Warriors match on the telly.

"Nae man can tether time or tide:
The hour approaches Tam maun ride"

You don't want to be five minutes late; miss kick off and Hornito's first two tries.

If the General can bring himself to opt for a 5:3 split then we could see some fireworks from Glasgow.

Bhatti-Turner-Ragnar (Macbeth- Scouser-Sordoni)
Gray-Cummings (Samuels)
Big Shona-RichieV2-Darge (Mullet)
Hornito (Brimful)
Thompson
Injuries mean that Rowe and McKay will be the wingers. However The General could surprise us all; he could look at using Jordan, Wee Shona, Shug AND Stafford.
Jordan- Wee Shona as centres and Shug at 15.
Or
Shona-Shug and Jordan at 15.
Or
Stafford-Shona and Shug Or Jordan.

The Luvvies almost conspired to throw it away against a totally chaotic 14 man Castres. Aldi Price will have a huge target on his back. There is no recognisable full back for The Effeminates. Nel is 74 years old; and that is not in dog years. Henry Healey won't know what has hit him...it'll be Rory Darge.
Whoever is selected for either side...we are Warriors.
Bring it. oh yeah


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Post by BigGee Wed 20 Dec 2023, 9:06 pm

I love this time of year!

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Post by bsando Wed 20 Dec 2023, 10:10 pm

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Post by jimbopip Thu 21 Dec 2023, 7:20 am

As you spotted, bsando, as well as being a great poet Burns also engaged in missionary work: taking culture to the godless heathens in the east was one of his nobler acts. Many an Edinburgh maiden was more than grateful for his missionary position.

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Post by bsando Thu 21 Dec 2023, 12:29 pm

Laugh clap Indeed they were!

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Post by bsando Thu 21 Dec 2023, 12:31 pm

Two strong sides but I think Edinburgh should have enough to win this one. Thompson will be relishing the opportunity to get one over Healy but I think Healy may well be the hero of the day given his form of late.

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Post by jimbopip Thu 21 Dec 2023, 1:18 pm

Dimples Jones at 14!!!Shocked

6/2 split Peterson, Williamson and Venter.

Huw Jones starts on the wing as Glasgow welcome back three Scotland stars in the forward pack for the first 1872 Cup fixture against Edinburgh.

It is the first time in his senior career that Jones has played out wide, although he featured plenty at full-back. The move also allows Franco Smith to welcome Stafford McDowall back at 12, with Sione Tuipulotu continuing to captain from outside centre.

Ally Miller keeps his place in the team after his try-scoring performance against Bayonne, although he shifts to blindside flanker. Rory Darge comes in at openside, with Sione Vailanu in at number eight.

The other changes come in the boiler room, with Scott Cummings and Richie Gray replacing Greg Peterson and young Alex Samuel.

It's a six-two split on the bench, with Peterson, Max Williamson and Henco Venter all named. Ben Afshar is the replacement scrum-half.

There's no place for the injured Matt Fagerson, while Ollie Smith is potentially out long term after a knee injury sustained in France.

Glasgow Warriors: McKay, Jones, Tuipulotu (c), McDowall, Rowe, Thompson, Horne; Bhatti, Turner, Z Fagerson, Cummings, Gray, Miller, Darge, Vailanu.

Replacements: Matthews, McBeth, Kebble, Peterson, Williamson, Venter, Afshar, Jordan.

When will The General start listening to me?


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Post by jimbopip Thu 21 Dec 2023, 1:20 pm

Luvvies have come out...

Edinburgh:

15. Wes Goosen (19)
14. Darcy Graham (61)
13. Matt Currie (25)
12. James Lang (44)
11. Duhan van der Merwe (81)
10. Ben Healy (8)
9. Ali Price (4)

1. Pierre Schoeman (104)
2. Ewan Ashman (8)
3. WP Nel (193)
4. Glen Young (31)
5. Grant Gilchrist (194) CAPTAIN
6. Jamie Ritchie (102)
7. Hamish Watson (145)
8. Viliame Mata (123)

Replacements

16. Dave Cherry (78)
17. Boan Venter (52)
18. D’Arcy Rae (1)
19. Marshall Sykes (50)
20. Luke Crosbie (90)
21. Ben Vellacott (46)
22. Mark Bennett (95)
23. Emiliano Boffelli (31)

Not bad for the third best team in Scotland.

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:14 am

A bit random that Thomson is thrust isn't this having barely played all season. Baptism of fire eh.

. Glasgow to win first leg, Edinburgh second and win the cup - heard it here first!

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Post by Tramptastic Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:37 am

Was it apparent how much of an effect Thompson had on the team against Bayonne? The General acts in mysterious ways but maybe he's realised having a 10 with a decent kicking game is a Plus

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Post by Tramptastic Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:38 am

Also, going to presume this game is behind a paywall on not on Freeview?

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:46 am

Tramptastic wrote:Also, going to presume this game is behind a paywall on not on Freeview?

Yrs it is on Viaplay

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Post by Tramptastic Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:57 am

BigGee wrote:
Tramptastic wrote:Also, going to presume this game is behind a paywall on not on Freeview?

Yrs  it is on Viaplay

Eurgh, i dont want to subscribe but i feel im too old and professional to illegally stream it. I wonder if its freeview anywhere else in the globe? could use a VPN...

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:00 am

Bad news for Glasgow and Ollie Smith in particular

The knee injury is as bad as it looked at the time and ligaments are gone. That is his season done unfortunately, he is likely looking at a 9 month lay off.

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Post by Tramptastic Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:07 am

As much as I've criticised him in a Scotland shirt, thats very unfortunate for him and Glasgow.

Whos left in the back 3 that can cover fullback this season?

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:12 am

Mckay mainly, but Shuggie has also played there very well for Quins in the past, despite being on the wing tonight.

No doubt there will be some positional switches during the game, that is how the general likes to play things

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Post by Tramptastic Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:20 am

Och aye, so not as bad as all that then

He's not a fullback but i feel Glasgow could really use Steyn coming back soon. I think his stock has gone up since the world cup - super dependable

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Post by demosthenes Fri 22 Dec 2023, 5:12 pm

Oops. Should read the subject matter before posting ...

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Post by formerly known as Sam Fri 22 Dec 2023, 6:51 pm

Is that Kyle Rowe on the wing for Glasgow. Has he managed to refind his form after his torrid time with injury and LI going under?

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 6:52 pm

It is and he has been playing very well.

He will likely be back in the Scotland squad when it is announced in the new year.

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Post by jimbopip Fri 22 Dec 2023, 6:59 pm

Well, pre match nerves beginning... Headscratch

Maybe some medicinal alcohol RedWine

As W C Fields said, " I carry a bottle of whisky with me at all times, to act as a stimulant in case I am ever surprised by a snake. Which I also carry with me."

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 7:44 pm

Glasgow make a solid start

Scrum penalty, lineout leading to penalty and a successful kick at goal.

3-0 Glasgow

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 7:47 pm

Strong Glasgow defense - Edinburgh stayed patient though. Amazing the ref didn't see fit for any penalty after so many phases.

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 7:52 pm

An Ali Price knock on greeted enthusiastically by the fair minded Glasgow crowd

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Post by tigertattie Fri 22 Dec 2023, 7:58 pm

Where did they dig up this ref?

Utterly clueless at scrum time
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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:01 pm

Great try from Glasgow, their backs showing all their skills

8-0 Glasgow

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:01 pm

Strong start indeed Glasgow but the ref is making it up at scrum time. Those two penalties both then led to Glasgow points.

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:03 pm

20 minutes in and don't think Edinburgh's have had a single penalty yet?

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:07 pm

Glasgow defense incredibly strong. That combined with very few Edinburgh penalties is making it difficult to see where the Edinburgh points are going to come from. Definitely need a spark in broken field from Darcy.

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm

Edinburgh really can't string anything together in attack

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:09 pm

Got to say Ben Healy is looking pretty lost and just shoveling crap

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:12 pm

Josh McKay is running hot tonight, looks very dangerous

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:14 pm

Turner looks hurt here

The dangers of tackling DVDM

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:15 pm

Urgh we have a great platform after the Duhan break and go for a stupid grubber through that comes to nothing

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:17 pm

Turner goes off and Johnny the Scouser makes an early appearance

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:22 pm

Finally some pressure from Edinburgh and Nelly flops over

8-7 Glasgow

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:23 pm

Game on!

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm

The scrum balance shifts to Edinburgh and Healy goes for a kick from halfway

He misses and scores stay the same

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:26 pm

Big momentum shift - Edinburgh try, Glasgow kick restart out on the full then Edinburgh penalty scrum. We need to capitalise on this purple patch.

Not sure taking a 50m shot at goal was the right decision in this weather particularly given the momentum shift.

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:29 pm

Edinburgh make a right mess of the maul and it's halftime

Score is probably fair - Glasgow's much the better team to begin with Edinburgh came back into it.

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:30 pm

An entertaining first half and anyone's game

Glasgow started much stronger and still look more dangerous but not made the most of their advantage and now a one point game

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Post by jimbopip Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:40 pm

Well, Headscratch I don't think either side looked that good.
Glasgow playing the better rugby but Rowe has only received one pass (which he scored from) and Jones hasn't received the ball in space. The Luvvies are pretty much sticking to one out rugby. Are they scared that if they open up then Glasgow will run riot in the open spaces?

After the first scrum the ref told the Glasgow front row that they had done really well and to keep that up: Nel then messed up the second scrum and the ref's mind was made up for the rest of the evening.

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:44 pm

Really miserable weather. Does it ever not rain in Glasgow?

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 8:52 pm

Important 3 points Edinburgh. With this weather there's not gonna be a lot of free flowing rugby. Territory is key.

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:02 pm

Glasgow lineout falling apart at the worst time. 2 in a row 5m out!

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:06 pm

Take the points!

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:06 pm

But nope we go for the corner

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Post by BigGee Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:08 pm

To many pens and GG gets a YC

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Post by RDW Fri 22 Dec 2023, 9:10 pm

One of these ones where you don't know what Edinburgh actually did. Ref instantly gave penalty advantage.

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