Mayweather's tarnished legacy

He has a fine win over Corrales - a fight many predicted he would lose.

He then lost to Castillo but got the gift decision.

His record then reads Gatti & Baldomir lol.

He made an overrated Hatton move up to 147.

He got a SD over De La Hoya.

He cheated Marquez with another catchweight sham and made him move up TWO weight divisions.

And then beat an old Mosley.

A tarnished legacy for a fighter who could have achieved so much more.

Awww Hitmansam...still Floyd Mayweather's record is far superior than Cotto.

Must hurt you to know someone you don't like in Calzaghe has a better record than Cotto.

What will you do IF Ortiz beats Mayweather?

hitmansam wrote:What will you do IF Ortiz beats Mayweather?

Wont happen but nice try

I wouldn't call being a atg top 40 in almost everyone's eyes at least a tarnished legacy.

Mayweather is an ATG - no doubt - but he's ducked so many fighters it's sick.

hitmansam wrote:Mayweather is an ATG - no doubt - but he's ducked so many fighters it's sick.

List the fighters you think mayweather truly ducked and what time of their careers did he duck them?

hitmansam wrote:He has a fine win over Corrales - a fight many predicted he would lose.

He then lost to Castillo but got the gift decision.

His record then reads Gatti & Baldomir lol.

He made an overrated Hatton move up to 147.

He got a SD over De La Hoya.

He cheated Marquez with another catchweight sham and made him move up TWO weight divisions.

And then beat an old Mosley.

A tarnished legacy for a fighter who could have achieved so much more.

Wow this is a brand new concept of Mayweather's career......someone (who no doubt is a Pac nuthugger) thinks Mayweather is a ducker.......

Seriously, what is the point of this thread? It's neither new or thought provoking.

Baldomir was the ring champion, which translated for you means he is number 1 at the weight.

Floyd is an ATG.

How very boring and repetitive

Hitmansam

Is this the best you can do? I mean seriously, do you think this is a worthwhile article that will engage the board in lively debate?

No, it won't. It's posters like you that we don't need here, diluting what is otherwise an excellent forum with your pathetic rubbish.

It's all about opinions, coxy, and the right to express them.

Was there a point to this thread?

BALTIMORA wrote:Was there a point to this thread?

Yes

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Was there a point to this thread?

Yes

What was it?

Each to their own, I say, though it'd sure be nice to have a different topic for once.

BALTIMORA wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Was there a point to this thread?

Yes

What was it?

My Cotto thread got to him so Hitmansam wanted to make a statement.

HumanWindmill wrote:It's all about opinions, coxy, and the right to express them.

I wonder if hitmansam will express how he balled his eyes out when Cotto quit. Twice.

Simple idea here and realise that's it a revolutionary one but if people constantly bang on about Cotto quitting just to rile HMS then articles like this are inevitable

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

BALTIMORA wrote:Was there a point to this thread?

Yes

What was it?

My Cotto thread got to him so Hitmansam wanted to make a statement.

Ah. Wonder what it was. Incidentally, has anyone else noticed that 'hitmansam' is an anagram of ' am **** man'?

Manny's is tarnished with Marquez 1 + Morales..Ali's is tarnished with Frazier.....Robbo's is tarnished with Turpin.....Yep Mayweather is tarnished never a truer word said..

Mayweather is a bum like the rest of the above......

Long live Vitali Klitscho....

Pathetic article. How many more of these -------- is overrated type articles do we have to suffer?

I would fancy my chances against Mayweather in a pub fight if we both sank 10 pints each

legendkillar wrote:I would fancy my chances against Mayweather in a pub fight if we both sank 10 pints each

Floyd Mayweather would still box your ears off...you wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd Mayweather!

The genius of PBF wrote:

legendkillar wrote:I would fancy my chances against Mayweather in a pub fight if we both sank 10 pints each

Floyd Mayweather would still box your ears off...you wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd Mayweather!

Though I think once he had 10 pints I could glove slap him at least

legendkillar wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

legendkillar wrote:I would fancy my chances against Mayweather in a pub fight if we both sank 10 pints each

Floyd Mayweather would still box your ears off...you wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd Mayweather!

Though I think once he had 10 pints I could glove slap him at least

Even if Floyd Mayweather offered you a free shot you would still probably miss.

The genius of PBF wrote:

legendkillar wrote:

The genius of PBF wrote:

legendkillar wrote:I would fancy my chances against Mayweather in a pub fight if we both sank 10 pints each

Floyd Mayweather would still box your ears off...you wouldn't lay a glove on Floyd Mayweather!

Though I think once he had 10 pints I could glove slap him at least

Even if Floyd Mayweather offered you a free shot you would still probably miss.

I would hit the Floyd in the middle

coxy0001 wrote: what is otherwise an excellent forum

you too Coxy

Y I Man wrote:

coxy0001 wrote: what is otherwise an excellent forum

you too Coxy

Minus that smilie that frankly, scares me

coxy0001 wrote:

Y I Man wrote:

coxy0001 wrote: what is otherwise an excellent forum

you too Coxy

Minus that smilie that frankly, scares me

Love in the air

It's not love in the air that's scaring him, it's love in the poop chute.

But it's not always about who he has beaten. And by the way he has beaten a lot of genuine World Champions which is no easy feat, but the pure fact is HOW he beat them with ease and class, really dislike Mayweather but you have to admit he has been class and I'm actually very happy I've been alive through his incredible reign in boxing as "The Cash Cow"
One of the few fighters that pose a question on how the heck do you beat this guy?
He is an incredible fighter and you talk about his legacy as if he's not ever going to box again he's facing Ortiz soon another fight I guarentee all the Pac nuthuggers will not give him respect for sadly.

Cotto isn't even my fave fighter so keep it up.

Froch > Calzaghe.

End of.

Hitmansam

Here is a copy of an article you did on Saturday called 'is mayweather that great': https://www.606v2.com/t6862-is-mayweather-really-that-great

It is virtually identical to this one. Are you D4 in disguise, or are you aspiring to take his place?

We get it - you think mayweather is overrated, Ortiz will give him a tough fight, Cotto is a living legend and calzaghe is a ducker with a poor record. How many more repetetive articles are you gonna write on these same subjects? Please go away, attempt to engage your brain and try to come up with something original, or at least spare us from this incessant, purile, predictable regurgitated cack.

he hasn't forced anyone onto his post and made them reply. if you don't like the thread then don't reply......

the only question about mayweathers career will be pac man if they dont get it on eventually

eddyfightfan wrote:he hasn't forced anyone onto his post and made them reply. if you don't like the thread then don't reply......

the only question about mayweathers career will be pac man if they dont get it on eventually

Agree. I can't see the problem with the article. If Mayweather beats Ortiz and retires there'll be the same questions to his career as there are with Calzaghe and RJJ. People are pretty sensitive........

Would it be possible to get all these people that do nothing but slag off fighters into a room and make them have a fight?

We could have Hitmansam the Mayweather hater against the guy that hates Calzaghe, oh that's hitmansam too.

In that case maybe Hitmansam could go into a room on his own and beat himself...........

a) it's not like he hasn't had much practice
b) if he were capable
c) would be nice that he doesn't involve family members this time

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Michaels, Sean wrote:

eddyfightfan wrote:he hasn't forced anyone onto his post and made them reply. if you don't like the thread then don't reply......

the only question about mayweathers career will be pac man if they dont get it on eventually

Agree. I can't see the problem with the article. If Mayweather beats Ortiz and retires there'll be the same questions to his career as there are with Calzaghe and RJJ. People are pretty sensitive........

This is the same repetetive drivel he comes out with over and over again. Of course no one is forced to read it, but when posters repeat articles week in week out and infiltrate other articles with the same tired rubbish in D4esque fashion it starts to get irritating. Calzaghes overrated, floyds overrrated, cottos a great, repeat as nauseum (dare we ask Sam how many fighters outside the top ten calzaghe defended against? No point really as he tells us virtually every day).

I think Calzaghe's record's better than Mayweather's, he beat Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, schooling unbeaten Kessler, Lacy, i don'think Mayweather beat anybody who deserves to mentioned in the same breath as Hopkins, Joe stayed at home for a bit, but i didn't see Mayweather fight away from the USA either

Calzaghe's record is better than Mayweathers...

Yep he beat 4 top 10 current p4pers at the time hasn't he

Young_Towzer wrote:I think Calzaghe's record's better than Mayweather's

A bit fanciful, to say the least. He may have the best singular win of the pair on paper, but Calzaghe never looked as incredibly dominant against a pound for pound ranked fighter (come to think of it, Hopkins was the only one he fought) as Mayweather did when he demolished Corrales. When it comes to depth outside of their respective best wins, it's a no contest. Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall, Lacy and Bika is sound enough, but it hardly compares to Castillo, Mosley, Judah, Gatti, Hernandez, De la Hoya and Hatton.

The other day you were arguing that Calzaghe doesn't even belong above Froch. Now all of a sudden he's higher than Mayweather?

Beat 4 current top at the time p4pers Chris...I'll doubt anybody has ever achieved that....

Plus the fact he's beaten guys from 130 - 154.......

You're right the Calzaghe stuff is nonsense..

Sick of Floyd disrespecting......

Sure don't like the guy..but don't poo poo his record.

A bit fanciful, to say the least. He may have the best singular win of the pair on paper, but Calzaghe never looked as incredibly dominant against a pound for pound ranked fighter (come to think of it, Hopkins was the only one he fought) as Mayweather did when he demolished Corrales. When it comes to depth outside of their respective best wins, it's a no contest. Kessler, Eubank, Reid, Mitchell, Woodhall, Lacy and Bika is sound enough, but it hardly compares to Castillo, Mosley, Judah, Gatti, Hernandez, De la Hoya and Hatton.
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Hopkins is better than anyone of them, Eubank's better than Castillo, Gatti, Hernandez, Judah imo, Kessler likewise. Calzaghe's longevity was better as well, fighting often and not having 2 year off then coming back to fight light middleweight when he's a super middleweight.

Frazier beat a near prime Ali.....let's just forget Hoppo was 42 and had been at the top nearly 15 years...

Let's have Frazier the 3rd best heavy of alltime then..if we are using your argument..

Calzaghe better than Mayweather, I really have heard it all now

That version of Eubank was in no shape or form better than Castillo, Hernandez, Hatton, De La Hoya, Mosley or a host of other fighters

As for longevity, Mayweather has had 18 world title fights compared to Calzaghes 23?

Sure, Calzaghe didn't take 'retirements' like Mayweather did, but when you're gonna fight the likes of Mger Mkrtchyan, Tocker Pudwill and David Starie...he might as well have taken the break.

Calzaghe better than Mayweather, I really have heard it all now

That version of Eubank was in no shape or form better than Castillo, Hernandez, Hatton, De La Hoya, Mosley or a host of other fighters

As for longevity, Mayweather has had 18 world title fights compared to Calzaghes 23?
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Regarded by many as Britain's best ever fighter, unbeaten throughout and defended his WBO title 22 times, beat Hopkins, Kessler, Lacy, dishing boxing lessons out to unbeaten Kessler, Lacy. Hopkins was and still is a great fighter, on his own patch Calzaghe beat him. I'd say that's a legit opinion

Sure, Calzaghe didn't take 'retirements' like Mayweather did, but when you're gonna fight the likes of Mger Mkrtchyan, Tocker Pudwill and David Starie...he might as well have taken the break.
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I aint and never will be a bias who defends everything a fighter i respect does, Starie, Veit, etc were sham fights. As was Baldomir, Judah, Gatti, and Marquez to name just a few. Granted Baldomir and Gatti had titles, but Margarito, Cotto were about with titles. And Vivian Harris who was a much better boxer than Gatti imo had a WBA title and wanted the fight, and Witter also much better was his number 1 contender, Mayweather beats both, but nowhere near as easy.

Regarded by who as Britains best ever fighter and defending the WBO title against relatively weak opposition isn't a particularly impressive record, he has good wins over Kessler and Hopkins but aside from that it reads a list of decent wins and mediocrity.

Think it's pushing the boundaries significantly to try and quantify that being a legitimate opinion

Regarded by who as Britains best ever fighter
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Many, many fans, pundits, journalists alike