Australia's one day problems

as an england fan i like writing about aussie's problems i done test now odi, although i like writing about it, its a shame to see a great side fall like this, and they have some genuine problems, this is their line up probably for the summer in odi cricket

1)Shane Watson
2)Tim Paine (wk)
3)Ricky Ponting
4)Michael Clarke (C)
5)Cameron White
6)Mike Hussey
7)Steve Smith
8)Mitchell Johnson
9)Peter siddle
10)Ryan Harris
11)Xavier Doherty

The problems they face is that, ponting's form has faded for a while now and his place is hugely under threat, with no one to come in, odi cricket, white has been in bad form for the last year now. Hussey is ageing and no signs of a replacement for him either, smith is unproven and international cricket is a hard place to learn.

Johnson is erratic at the best of times, harris is always injured and they seem to like doherty in odi cricket, and he is useless..

do people agree with what im saying? or if not let me no what u think...

squad been released and white has been dropped, i would have expected ferguson to take his place

Yeah, especially after his little knock in SA for Australia A.

Our One Day side hasn't really fallen as much as the Test side...but I see your point, crickfan.

We need to blood those replacements for our ageing stars sooner rather than later. I think you're a little harsh on Steve Smith. Ashes was a real baptism of fire for him - can't expect him to perform miracles when others were failing all around him as well. I agree, kind of, about Doherty - tbh, I haven't seen so much of him in FC either and most of us Oz fans were scratching our heads last summer. Same with Beer.

I think they should just bite the bullet and go for some young quicks - Hazelwood, Copeland to name a couple. We can't keep relying on Harris' dodgy knees to come good - it's tough I know 'cos he gives his all but I feel the Australian selectors need to look to get the younger guys in the side as soon as possible.

Rod Marsh is looking to get more involved with the team I see - on Cricinfo.

Whats the deal with White then? I thought he was T20 Capatain, surely that means the seclectors had some faith in him as a limited overs player? I know they hardly use his bowling but hes got a decent record as a specialist batsman.

On paper the only issue is Pontings form, and the lack of a spinner genuinly worth his place.

Is DHussey in the squad?

im not being harsh on smith, im just saying he is unproven, im a fan of smith lol

Don't know about White. He was pretty poor in IPL wasn't he? Doesn't bowl as well so not much use. I'm not sure if it's an attitude thing or a form slump....or both, lol.

As for Smith, I'm a fan of him too - he's done some amazing things with bat, ball & fielding on domestic level. He just needs more, not less exposure at international level. I can see him doing really well in the next few seasons.

David Hussey is in the ODI and T20 squad, cricketfan.

Australian Squads

Since when doesnt Hussey bowl? Ask England about that! He took a 4 for not much in one of the games this winter.

Hes been underused by Australaia in any format IMO

Talking about Cameron White not bowling, Peter.

OK yeah am I going mad? Or did someone edit a post? Maybe I just read both your posts at the same time and mixed the words up.
So from what understand White barely bowls but hes pretty effective when he does.

Australia dont really need to worry about all rounders though, with Smith and Watson in the side the support bowling is there even if they only have 4 out and out bowlers. The concentration has to be on sleecting the best bastmen and speciflist bowlers to go with them.I guess they feel White isnt one of those now.

Reading the article they are blaming his form in Bangaldesh, but say they reckon he'll force his way back. Thing is if hes been bobbins in PL too how long before hes under threat in the T20's too?

Im suprised to see Tait rejected from that squad too. Seems they are concentrating on youth there.

tait has retired from odi cricket mate

i think they should move on from brett lee, let him play ipl, and maybe domestic 20-20

cricketfan90 wrote:tait has retired from odi cricket mate

I meant from the T20 squad. He hasnt retired form T20, hes been dropped.

ah right well im suprised bout that

He must have given signs to the selectors.

I see the BBL squads are starting to form. I saw a list the other day but can't remember where it was.

I didn't mind the one team per State based system up until 2010. I find this new arrangement a bit strange - not that I'm too fanatical about it all. The salary cap is tiny...only $1m per franchise. People will probably become involved but the way they've tried to create rivlaries in NSW/Vic with two teams each may fall flat. So far, I'm not sure who I'll follow.

I live closer to the Sydney Sixers (Pinks) but technically I'm not living in the City/East...more in the North/East...so I'll probably go with Warner & Gayle at the Thunder (Light Green). ANZ is about 18km from me, the SCG about 11km. Toss a coin maybe...?

i find it staggering that white is 20-20 captain but cant get in the one day side, he is a quality one day player.

I'm a bit flabbergastered too.

We know he can dismantle the bowling (sometimes) but it looks like the selectors are trying to fragment each format and develop specialised players for each...but still many contradictions as you say, cricketfan.

I'd have him in the ODI squad at least. We could use his experience (captaincy & batting) which has obviously been acknowledged by the selectors by making him T20 captain.

At one time I thought he would make a fairly decent interim captain for the Test team (based on FC captaincy for the Big V) but they are/were set on Clarke instead as we all know.

hazelwood might be time for him to have a go

Sure, why not...we've nothing to lose. (just found that one...ha ha!)

i think australia need to get a pool of 30 players, and work with them over a long period of time and relle get them ready for international cricket

dave warner could be really good for the one day side.

cricketfan90 wrote:dave warner could be really good for the one day side.

You know cricketfan, I'm like you - I'd go aginst the general consensus and agree with you that Dave Warner would be a great ODI opener...maybe in the style of a modern David Boon. Unless he has specifically told someone (i.e. other players & selectors) that he's not interested in ODIs and would prefer to concentrate on T20 only? Maybe he did say something like that (last year?) but I don't have his quote.

well he has said he wants to play test cricket, so i would assume that he wants to play odi cricket as well

He's only played 7 FC matches but would need to lift his average up from 36.9.

I see Khawaja has signed for the Thunder...now all they need are some bowlers and a wicket keeper. Haddin perhaps?

he only young though he got time on his side.

No Callum Ferguson? He seems to be overlooked by the Australian selectors.

shame really he is a talented batsman

what happend to Shaun Marsh? Looked a quality batter when i watched him on TV a few times for Aus

he is still in their plans i think he will play more as they ease ponting out of the side

should do, brilliant player, little supprised english counties haven't tried getting him over here more

i think their main problem is their bowling though to be honest.

Not so worried about the bowling capabilities / stocks - who to select is the problem. Last couple of years has been so unAustralian

i think the aussies will still persist with brett lee, but i think he should retire from international cricket now to be honest

I see Brett Lee has signed up with the Sixers in the BBL along with Mitchell Starc, whilst the Thunder have signed Douggie Bollinger and Fidel Edwards.

brett lee will still be a very good domestic bowler, just think he should move on now from international cricket