2/1 Tiger Woods!

A few years back those were the kind of odds you could expect for Tiger to win a Major. Now he is a 25/1 shot for the PGA which is probably still too short.

However there could still be some value in backing Tiger - 2/1 to miss the cut.

Is that a good bet?

Is it good value in context to his recent major history? No would have to be the answer as apart from one missed cut at the Open last year he has still performed well at the majors. Not sure what the odds are for him to finish top 10 but that would be my guess for his week.

He might not be playing well at the moment, and who knows when he will get his form back.

But every single player in the PGA field will know that if he does find it again, they're playing for second place.

Diggers wrote:Is it good value in context to his recent major history? No would have to be the answer as apart from one missed cut at the Open last year he has still performed well at the majors. Not sure what the odds are for him to finish top 10 but that would be my guess for his week.

3/1 for a Top Ten Finish

George1507 wrote:He might not be playing well at the moment, and who knows when he will get his form back.

But every single player in the PGA field will know that if he does find it again, they're playing for second place.

I don't know about that anymore George!!
But there is no doubt that he is capable of winning if he finds a few fairways

Even if Woods does get his form back he has lost his aura of invincibility. Once that has gone and the others know they can beat him then they are certainly not playing for second place.

Faldono1fan wrote:Even if Woods does get his form back he has lost his aura of invincibility. Once that has gone and the others know they can beat him then they are certainly not playing for second place.

I honestly feel Woods had lost that before his subsequent demise after the 9 iron beating Elin gave him. I think the World of Golf has Y E Yang to thank for that, the fact he beat Tiger head to head down the last to win the PGA showed the world if you had the bottle to stand with Tiger and take him on he could be beaten instead of letting him intimidate you into submission. So to YE Yang

25/1 as an each way bet is surely a massive price? He may not have been winning recently but just before his last injury was good at coming through the pack on the last day when he knew he could not win and had no pressure. We all know what happens when you prod a sleeping bear...

25/1 each way is probably 5/1 at most bookies (fifth odds?)
5/1 on Tiger making the top 4? I'm not sure that's great value

I think the 2/1 odd for missing the cut tell you alot about his chances.

If I was going to have a bet on him, it would be to miss the cut - along with Poulter

George, I'm sorry,but that's claptrap. There are too many players playing at a high level now and who no longer fear him. Woods hasn't won a major since 2008 and no tournaments since 2009. He'd have to improve impossibly if his peers were to consider second place an achievement when he's in the field. That's right he now has peers.
Woods would give his stupid goatee beard for a second place right now. All these ifs and buts mean nothing.

MustPuttBetter wrote:25/1 each way is probably 5/1 at most bookies (fifth odds?)
5/1 on Tiger making the top 4? I'm not sure that's great value

It is usually a quarter odds and usually down to fifth and ties. Paddy Power were offering e/w down to eighth at The Open!

Of course, you also have the way that people still love Tiger so if he has a good Thursday/Friday there will be the chance of laying it back out to those betting with their hearts and not heads that will drive the odds down.

MustPuttBetter wrote:25/1 each way is probably 5/1 at most bookies (fifth odds?)
5/1 on Tiger making the top 4? I'm not sure that's great value

Most bookies are offering top 6 (at least) for e/w bets. Still not great value for Tiger though

sharrison01 wrote:

MustPuttBetter wrote:25/1 each way is probably 5/1 at most bookies (fifth odds?)
5/1 on Tiger making the top 4? I'm not sure that's great value

It is usually a quarter odds and usually down to fifth and ties. Paddy Power were offering e/w down to eighth at The Open!

Of course, you also have the way that people still love Tiger so if he has a good Thursday/Friday there will be the chance of laying it back out to those betting with their hearts and not heads that will drive the odds down.

Paddy Power were only offering to 8th pre the start and then it was back to 4th! They're not stupid

Maverick wrote:

Faldono1fan wrote:Even if Woods does get his form back he has lost his aura of invincibility. Once that has gone and the others know they can beat him then they are certainly not playing for second place.

I honestly feel Woods had lost that before his subsequent demise after the 9 iron beating Elin gave him. I think the World of Golf has Y E Yang to thank for that, the fact he beat Tiger head to head down the last to win the PGA showed the world if you had the bottle to stand with Tiger and take him on he could be beaten instead of letting him intimidate you into submission. So to YE Yang

Spot on Mav. Indeed, as a result of yon finish, one could say that Tiger's yin has lost its yang!

As for his chances, it won't come as a shock if he fails to make the cut. He has a lot of extra baggage to carry these days not least of which is a new caddie.

gaelgowfer wrote:As for his chances, it won't come as a shock if he fails to make the cut.

Completely agree with you but I would also not be shocked if he had a good week. To quote another thread, if Tiger gets himself into position then would anyone want to bet against him? I think that 25/1 is about right given that people still have the perception that Tiger is a great player - the top is now so competitive that picking a winner is ridiculously difficult but if you were picking someone to win given a good opportunity then Tiger will still be up there. It's a big ask for a good opportunity at the moment for him though!?!

"To quote another thread, if Tiger gets himself into position then would anyone want to bet against him? "

Sharrison ... absolutely! Don't forget, it's not the first time he's been been beaten 'in the clinch' (albeit match play).

Tiger is +4 after13 holes, still would not bet him to miss the cut

oldparwin wrote:Tiger is +4 after13 holes, still would not bet him to miss the cut

super_realist wrote:

oldparwin wrote:Tiger is +4 after13 holes, still would not bet him to miss the cut

Would Poulter winning make you any happier than you are right now?

2/1 now looking very good

sharrison01 wrote:

super_realist wrote:

oldparwin wrote:Tiger is +4 after13 holes, still would not bet him to miss the cut

Would Poulter winning make you any happier than you are right now?

Only if Woods misses the cut. Currently tied 140th
Cue excuse that he came back "too early".

Despite not wishing to celebrate someone's misfortunate, I'm glad that someone's happy...

He's had plenty of good times Harrison. A little suffering is good for the soul.

Amen to that s_r!