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Post by Guest Fri 02 Sep 2011, 4:06 pm

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The title says it all...

I'm looking forward to Nalby-Luby.

The Nadull should have a cakewalk against Mahut - unless it goes to five sets and they have a marathon tiebreaker Shocked

Roddick-Sock: A battle of the new and old Americans. Also a clash of the big servers

Murray-Hasse: I think this could be tough for Murray if Hasse hits the zone.

Ferrer-Blake: Battle of the golden oldies.

Lots of good matches.

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:35 pm

Tenez wrote:Murray missing 2 very easy and important FHs at crucial times in that TB. He is going to win but a nervous display thus far from the Scott. He did not make the most of a very lucky net cord at SP.

I'm not quite so confident. Murray is looking like his confidence is on the floor. His first serve and his forehand have disappeared. He has turned this scenario around many times in big matches, but look at the times he has failed to turn situations like this around... Against big hitters in slams!

I'm really worried that he might be digging his own grave here.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:37 pm

Murray is flipping clueless... laughing
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:39 pm

Murray works a couple of break back points of the back of some decent hitting, but Haase plays a good point, and then Murray misses yet ANOTHER easy mid court forehand, danger averted

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:40 pm

3-0..... looks like he wants to prepare for his best man duties already, what a joke.
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:40 pm

how about getting some forehands in, Andy?

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:41 pm

Andy looks like going bye bye. Haase has drained all his confidence.

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:45 pm

Wow Andy see what happens when you play tennis??

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:45 pm

Murray finds a couple of decent forehands, about his first of the the match, and gets on the board in the second set at least

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:48 pm

suddenly Murray's forehand seems to be working, and he plays easily his best game of the match to break back! where did that come from?

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:49 pm

What is Haase playing at????

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This is becoming frustrating because both players don't seem to want to take the initiative.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:49 pm

disagree with you there LK, Murray just stepped it up there, cut down on the errors, and if he plays like that he's too good for Haase

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:50 pm

Not at all MFC. Haase made some errors. Andy stepped in. He has to raise it more if he is to take this 2nd set.

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Post by Tenez Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:51 pm

Murray's shoes look huge, amplified by his ankle supports. Looks like he has moon boots!


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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:51 pm

Thing is, he berates himself after every error and it is him - not Haase - who has drained himself of all confidence.

He needs to relax to have any chance. If he continues to beat himself up he'll talk himself out of this. Does he not watch his own matches back? A lot of the time he is responsible for his own downfall.

That's better Murray...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:54 pm

oh for flip's sake Andy, absolutely pathetic, four errors and gifts the break straight back, Murray continues to beat himself

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:54 pm

Murray hands the break back......

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:54 pm

Smacks of his Wawrinka encounter last year.

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:55 pm

LOL sends the break right back to Haase, Nadulls draw gets even easier it seems Very Happy Ljubi wins 2nd set with a breadstick!
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:56 pm

don't think I've ever seen as many unforced errors from Murray as he's made in the first two sets here, well over 30 already...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:56 pm

that service game at 2-3 down was just useless, he had all the momentum and just tossed it away, what is going on?

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Post by Tenez Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:57 pm

Relax! Murray's going to win that one. Never in doubt (not kidding!).

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:58 pm

He repeats the same mistakes in every single major.
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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 9:59 pm

Murray just might land a first serve in

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:00 pm

Murray with this performance is not worthy of his number 4 ranking in the world. Pains me to say as a fan. It is a pathetic and hopeless performance. That slapstick FH in the net said it all.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:01 pm

and yet another awful forehand gifts Haase the two set lead. I think Murray should try serve and volleying from now on really, as he can't seem to put a forehand in play at all

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Post by bogbrush Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:01 pm

This is utter garbage, Hasse isn't even having to play all that well.

I have no idea what goes on inside his head. Actually, it's probably faulty technique to be honest, especially on the forehand.

Come on, ffs!


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Post by Guest Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:01 pm

I've edited a couple of comments and deleted one, please just discuss the tennis rather than the members who like Murray.
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Post by Chazfazzer Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

This is a laughable performance from Murray so far. Usually I enjoy watching him lose, but it's no fun when it seems like he's not even bothered. Having said that, I would still bet on him to come back and win in five.

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

I think Fleming summed up his FH in the first set when said in a open court, he can put it away, but from the baseline just hasn't got the power to hit a clean winner on his FH.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:02 pm

I disagree JM, he's not being too passive here, he's actually pretty much hitting as many winners as Haase, and very few have been counter-punches (like one pass that I can remember), it's the errors that are killing him out there

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:05 pm

I will, but please delete the mentioned names messages when they say my username (JM) thumbsup
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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:06 pm

Murray might give a Poopie soon

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:07 pm

If he loses this service game, he's toast. Come on Andy...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:09 pm

trouble isn't the serve, it's the rallying. Sure, Haase has taken a few swings at the Murray second serve, but more often than not, he's just got himself into a rally which he's won (usually off a Murray error, which has now reached roughly 40)

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:12 pm

Peter Flemming just put it perfectly:

"Stop trying to coach yourself. Just shut up and play"

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:13 pm

Murray plays a better return game, forces the break, and lets out an animal roar of "COME OOOOOOOOONNNNNNNN!" can he turn this around?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:15 pm

I dunno, commentators go on about him muttering to himself, but if you were n°4 in the world and had played two terrible first sets like he just did, you'd be pretty annoyed at yourself too I think. Is the mood a cause or a consequence of his level of play?

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:18 pm

And Murray consolidates, body language much improved (causes and consequences again?)

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:19 pm

Murray consolidates the break. Though I am still aprehensive he can still win this.

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:20 pm

Mad for Chelsea wrote:I dunno, commentators go on about him muttering to himself, but if you were n°4 in the world and had played two terrible first sets like he just did, you'd be pretty annoyed at yourself too I think. Is the mood a cause or a consequence of his level of play?


But when he really starts on himself, his game falls apart. If it went the other way, fair enough. But it's counter productive. The other 3 top guys don't do it.

By the way, get these stats... Murray 1st serve pts won 80% - 2nd serve pts won 21%

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:22 pm

yeah but like I said I don't get the feeling Haase has destroyd Murray's second serve, more that Murray hasn't been good enough to win the rallies that ensued behind his second serve...

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Post by Josiah Maiestas Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:26 pm

Murray's 2nd serve is chicken feed for the truly talented players, and when i say talented, i mean anyone bar Roddick Very Happy
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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:26 pm

Young has beaten Wawrinka, so if Murray can somehow come out of this one his draw is wide open...

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:28 pm

Haase suddenly looking a bit weary, Murray steps it up again, and there's the double break, courtesy of a double fault from Haase...

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:28 pm

Well Andy is pulling himself out of his slumber and Haase seems to be tiring.

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Post by Chazfazzer Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:30 pm

Here we go again...another Murray opponent is gonna gift the match away. I'll bet you all the money in the world I'll come back in an hour to find Murray a break up in the final set.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:32 pm

Haase calling for the trainer, not sure what the problem is, he did look tired at the end, but didn't seem to be injured at all?

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Post by legendkillar Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:33 pm

Andy takes the 3rd set. C'mon Andy. I shall stick the coffee on.

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Post by Mad for Chelsea Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:36 pm

well he worked on his thigh for a while, then moved onto his hip, not sure what that was all about. We're ready to go in set four though

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Post by Danny_1982 Fri 02 Sep 2011, 10:39 pm

Negative body language gone, and Murray is back in the room.

Come on Andy, keep him moving, keep the ball deep..

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