Opinions on this possible match-up

Watching KOTV this week, the showed the re-run of CLeverley and Bellew and it got me thinking about the British LH scene. I was wondering if there would be any interest in a potential fight between Tony Bellew and the supposedly reinvigorated Enzc Macc.

Bellew surprised plenty of people that night against Clev and I had him losing it only in the last couple of rounds. Enzo still shifts tickets as does Bellew and I can't see much point in either of them faffing around with these Euro journeymen at this stage (especially Enzo).

Both can bang and both have hit the deck. I think it has the potential for a little cracker of a fight and I look forward to Frank Warren stealing this idea and announcing it shortly

Well, I'd certainly like to see Maccarinelli actually earning this 'all Welsh showdown' with Cleverly by (shock horror) beating a couple of decent Light-Heavyweights first, not that such a minor detail seems to apply these days. Think both Enzo and Bellew could do a lot worse than this match up actually, Dave.

Would be backing Bellew myself. Better boxer than Maccarinelli for my money and has shown that he can weather a storm if needs be, a department which Maccarinelli is truly inept in.

Definately a fight that could happen if Enzo can remain at the weight. Still not ure about his capacity at the weight and would prefer him to have a more testing opponent but if Enzo could pass a sterner test at LH then I dont see why this couldnt happen unless Warren fast tracks Enzo straight into a Cleverly fight.

Enzo Mac vs Tony Bellew could well be a very exciting fight and its a tough one to call.

I can see it happening though maybe makes more financial sense for FW to cherry pick one of the plums in the WBO Top 15 rankings, for Enzo to feast on. Then straight to an all Welsh clash with Cleverly.

I'd also like to see Bellew vs McIntosh - another potentially exciting fight.

Would like to see Bellew v Macaranelli with Clev to fight Shumenov in Vegas as per the other thread then, providing he wins, to have his 'Welsh homecoming' fight against the winner of Bell-Macc.

Seems this article has been received with more enthusiasm than my Bradley Pryce effort. Things are looking up.

May try and regenerate some interest in Peter Jackson....(walk before you can run, sunshine)

Do you know, I wouldn't mind seeing these two get it on...

I'm beginning to come round to the thought that Enzo doesn't have as bad a chin as we make out, sure he's been KO'd a few times, but the punches he's been knocked out from have all been absolute humdingers, as in the punches he's been knocked out with, would have knocked out most fighters to be honest.

Bellew can hit hard I reckon, but not THAT hard, Enzo is big for a LHW standing in at 6"4 and that lad can obviously bang. If he cracks Bellew with one I could actually see the guy going, but been impressed with Bellews skill level in his last fight, something I didn't really think he had. But the guy had a good jab and solid fundamentals, clearly not the greatest boxer on the planet or the most fluid but is actually pretty good. Would definitely tune in.

Good match up in my opinion.

It's the common sense fight, in my opinion. Both can bang, both leave themselves open. Could be a cracker.

Sure i'm not the only one who thinks a lot more of Bellew, both as a fighter and a man, since the Cleverly fight (pre-fight nonsense aside).

bellew has abit of power which should be enough to knock out enzo these days. not the worst fight for bellew, decent name but could only see enzo getting ko. enzo must have one of the best claims at being knocked out better than anyone else

Disagree...doesn't do anything for the guys careers involved....

Most people reckon Enzo is finished and not a 175er...so if Bellew wins - so what!!!

If Enzo wins ..Bellew had been found out by Cleverly.....

Not sure it would be a great fight either...Bellew stops him early...

Doesn't make sense really this fight and we are only discussing it because Enzo stopped a below-average fighter in 1...

Interesting article ..but no .....won't happen..

I still feel a guy Enzo's size must be killing himself to get down to 175 despite what he say's.
The fight with Bellew would be who lands the big one first neither are blessed in the chin department.

Nico the gman wrote:I still feel a guy Enzo's size must be killing himself to get down to 175 despite what he say's.
The fight with Bellew would be who lands the big one first neither are blessed in the chin department.

Not sure about this but was watching on a crappy stream - still looks like he got moobs?

I think Enzo's one of those fighters who's never gonna have the chiselled look.

the old saying muscle ways more than fat, if haye could get himself down to crusier dont see why enzo with his moobs cant

How was Bellew found out by Cleverley? Most predicted Cleverley to have far too much for the scouser. If anything, Cleverley was the one who looked over-rated that night

Found out because he lost perhaps...

I'm saying that's what they'll say if he loses to Enzo..Clev had done it first etc...

No point in this fight for Bellew he deserves a rematch with Cleverly not a fight with a guy who was never that good and he would comfortably beat inside 6 and moves him no further ahead.

dont think he deserves another world title shot now - euro level should be where bellew should be aiming.

I thought he won the fight. That's why I think he deserves a rematch.

Excellent idea of a match up, and one I hadn't thought of. Dave, we'll make a matchmaker out of you yet.

Only worry is that Enzo could be one knockout away from long term damage...

DAVE667 wrote:Watching KOTV this week, the showed the re-run of CLeverley and Bellew and it got me thinking about the British LH scene. I was wondering if there would be any interest in a potential fight between Tony Bellew and the supposedly reinvigorated Enzc Macc.

Bellew surprised plenty of people that night against Clev and I had him losing it only in the last couple of rounds. Enzo still shifts tickets as does Bellew and I can't see much point in either of them faffing around with these Euro journeymen at this stage (especially Enzo).

Both can bang and both have hit the deck. I think it has the potential for a little cracker of a fight and I look forward to Frank Warren stealing this idea and announcing it shortly

It's a good point Dave, can definitely see this fight being made.

Keeps Bellew in the spotlight and pushes Enzo after he's spoken of fighting Clev. Could act as an eliminator for bigger fights ahead and you'd imagine that if Enzo is on better form, this is a domestic which must be made before he tries to climb the ladder again.

I don't get why people think this fight should be made. What's in it for Bellew? He's shown he can cut it at a certain level why go backwards to fight a guy who is one KO away from some serious damage.

i thought bellew decisively lost

How decisively are you talking? I had him win it by a round but wouldn't argue with it going to Cleverly by a round or two.

I had it a draw but with Cleverly's rounds being more clearly won.

This could be a good matchup, but I'd rather actually see Enzo fight at light heavy before looking for interesting matchups for him at the weight.

had it 8 rounds to 4 i think

bellew should have to rebuild and a good domestic opponent or euro level is where its at in my opinion

Had it 7-5 on a rewatch myself - wouldn't argue with a draw. Just a couple rounds of Bellew - pushing rather than throwing. Cleverly seems to want to make life harder for himself - seems to think he is Calzaghe or something.

anyone think that enzo could beat the clev?

If he sticks his face in front of Enzo - quite probably. Probably why they are already rubbishing it - the risk is there - but I should think that Cleverly has enough about him to see out Enzo - still telegraphs his punches.

I'm not sold on Cleverley yet, so Enzo would definitely have a punchers chance here. However, if that fight was made, I for one would be criticising Clev for going after easy options and not stretching himself

I don't get why Bellew should have to rebuild he did better than most people thought he would. No point in going back to domestic level. A bit of Euro trash then move on.

As for Clev vs Enzo. Pointless fight I'm not a big Cleverly fan. In fact I don't rate him at all but he would easily beat Enzo who is well past his best which was never anything special.

bellew fought next to no one of note at domestic level and then lost an undeserved world title shot

True but he gave a solid account of himself - I had him down to lose decisively - certainly surprised me. Concur with Kev - he should shift his sight onto europe and give it a good go.

AlexHuckerby wrote:bellew fought next to no one of note at domestic level and then lost an undeserved world title shot

Who was there to fight domestically? He got an undeserving shot off an undeserving champion and proved himself to be better than most people thought.

great he got beat not as bad as we thought he would by a weak champion - sign him up again!

Why not - it was a close fight entertaining and cleverly had an excuse ready afterwards- we can see their progress - and whether they'll learn from their mistakes. Bellew needs to improve in little areas to reach his plateau - which I believe to be euro level whereas Cleverly needs to learn to move. I don't think he can go very far by standing infront - especially as he wants hopkins or Dawson.

Bellew needs to use that jab PROPERLY rather than simply disguising his right because it becomes predictable. Also needs to pick his punches. Cleverly needs to fight at range and use those gifts to the best of his ability. Fighting in the pocket is all well and good - but if a fairly limited fighter in Bellew can almost match you - then there is something wrong.

a lot of guys take on a journeyman to rebuild why is enzo such a bad choice

cleverly, enzo and bellew will never set the world of fire. especially with warren controling there opposition

Enzo is a bad choice because he has no hope himself. All he can do is get a lucky punch in. Nothing to gain - and everything to lose. Lose to a no-hoper and its truly over for you.

not really bellew is poor defensively and enzo can open up angles to take him out easily with a big punch.

Maybe - But Enzo's punches are usually announced by tannoy before they land - Bellew may be able to Ko him.

think they could ko each other at any point

The point is if Bellew wins and looks poor in doing so it's done nothing for him. If he schools Enzo or blows him away people say Enzo was past it and was never a lightheavy anyway. Nothing to gain from it even in victory. A push for a euro strap or a rematch with Cleverly would be much more suitable.

No point to the fight if the winner faces Cleverly. If that winner is Bellew then we got Bellew v Cleverly 2! Decent fight the last time out but Cleverly is the champion he needs new and bigger names.

Besides, aint Bellew and Maccarinelli good mates? Must be tough trying to beat up someone you actually like.

do most people accept that bellew is around british/european level? if so who are people expecting him to fight if not the likes of enzo. dont think many think he's world level, clev isnt even world level despite the gift of a world title. enzo once was world level (with the help of warren again) so dont think it would be the worse fight for bellew, the division isnt exactly a shining beacon of talent. dont see it as some great 50/50 fight, but decent fight and a good payday for both fighters at there current standing in boxing.

enzo beats bellew - genuinely believe that.

Why??? because he beats some useless lump of lard in one round...

You're easily impressed.....

no because think he will be able to spark bellew out with a big right hand and dont think bellew is that good.