Semi-Final Thread - Djokovic V Murray

by CaledonianCraig Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:25 pm

First topic message reminder :

All set for the off. I hope it is a great match and best of luck Andy.

Discuss....

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:39 pm

bogbrush wrote:
reckoner wrote:I'd rather he played a borefest against Nadal than what we saw yesterday

It's up to him, what I'm saying is that I'd never pay money to watch this.

Oh, there we can certainly agree.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:40 pm

lendl looks like someone shot his puppy

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:42 pm

Lendl always looks that way when he has his game face on. Murray is completely passive only way he wins points is with Novak errors.

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:42 pm

reckoner wrote:
bogbrush wrote:
reckoner wrote:I'd rather he played a borefest against Nadal than what we saw yesterday

It's up to him, what I'm saying is that I'd never pay money to watch this.

Oh, there we can certainly agree.

So not even if he played like that for one or two games in a set in order to regain his timing and accuracy so he can play as he usually does?

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:45 pm

Murray -
winners - 5
UEs - 24

Did I just hear someone say how much better he is than Hewitt and Roddick?
C'mon Andy FFS!!!

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:46 pm

break_in_the_fifth wrote:
reckoner wrote:
bogbrush wrote:
reckoner wrote:I'd rather he played a borefest against Nadal than what we saw yesterday

It's up to him, what I'm saying is that I'd never pay money to watch this.

Oh, there we can certainly agree.

So not even if he played like that for one or two games in a set in order to regain his timing and accuracy so he can play as he usually does?

I don't think he's able to do that... if you've trained yourself to attack almost instinctively, can you switch that off and on at will?

by Simple_Analyst Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:46 pm

Was going to watch this match but with it being one sided from the scores and comments, will wait for the highlights later.

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Should be able to.

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:47 pm

Simple_Analyst wrote:Was going to watch this match but with it being one sided from the scores and comments, will wait for the highlights later.

I might take a break from it in a minute as well.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:48 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:Murray -
winners - 5
UEs - 24

Did I just hear someone say how much better he is than Hewitt and Roddick?
C'mon Andy FFS!!!

patriotic supporters blinded by patriotism?

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:48 pm

Murray just not getting any penetration with his serve.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:48 pm

Simple_Analyst wrote:Was going to watch this match but with it being one sided from the scores and comments, will wait for the highlights later.

thanks for keeping us updated

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:48 pm

I don't get Murray. He was better 3-4 years ago.

by Tenez Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:49 pm

Please Murray....go in 3 easy sets. You are not up to the task of felling Nadal.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:50 pm

break_in_the_fifth wrote:I don't get Murray. He was better 3-4 years ago.

I think he tried to turn himself into Nadull and failed

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:51 pm

I still think Murray is better than hewitt or Roddick in their prime no question, he is just playing the world #1. And frankly when the two best returners and two of the best defenders play each other there are going to be fewer winners and more points decided by errors.

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:52 pm

Simple_Analyst wrote:Was going to watch this match but with it being one sided from the scores and comments, will wait for the highlights later.

There aren't any.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:52 pm

more "jam tomorrow" commentary about Murray - this time about his blossoming partnership with Lendl ... yawn

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:52 pm

reckoner wrote:
break_in_the_fifth wrote:I don't get Murray. He was better 3-4 years ago.

I think he tried to turn himself into Nadull and failed

I suspect so as well. One of the most disappointing turn of events I really hope he can still do otherwise and get in touch with his game again.

by bogbrush Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:52 pm

Simple_Analyst wrote:Was going to watch this match but with it being one sided from the scores and comments, will wait for the highlights later.

Catch three points, then imagine that x 50 and you've seen it.

by LuvSports! Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:52 pm

I think BBc's commentators are also hired as morale officers ! Laugh

by Tenez Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:53 pm

socal1976 wrote:I still think Murray is better than hewitt or Roddick in their prime no question, he is just playing the world #1. And frankly when the two best returners and two of the best defenders play each other there are going to be fewer winners and more points decided by errors.

What's the point of being better if you cannot pull the winners that can win you matches and slams? Hewitt and Roddick could. End of.

by bogbrush Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:53 pm

JuliusHMarx wrote:
Simple_Analyst wrote:Was going to watch this match but with it being one sided from the scores and comments, will wait for the highlights later.

There aren't any.

+1

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:53 pm

Two very nice aggressive points with murray coming up to net. He has to do that more.

by CaledonianCraig Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:54 pm

I made this analogy at the US Open and it still seems the way. When Andy plays the big guns (Federer, Nadal and Djokovic) in slams it is like he is playing with handcuffs on. His natural game is over-taken by tension and perhaps a lack of self-belief - Lendl has to work on that as it throttles his chances it really does.

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:55 pm

reckoner wrote:
JuliusHMarx wrote:Murray -
winners - 5
UEs - 24

Did I just hear someone say how much better he is than Hewitt and Roddick?
C'mon Andy FFS!!!

patriotic supporters blinded by patriotism?

Yes, and no Smile

by CaledonianCraig Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:55 pm

Djoko not playing great but getting the job done like a world No.1 does.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:55 pm

couple of conspicuously flashy points for Murray there!! but then back business as usual rallying borefest Sad

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:56 pm

Incredible up the line backhand winner by djoko

by **JuliusHMarx** Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:56 pm

Tenez wrote:
socal1976 wrote:I still think Murray is better than hewitt or Roddick in their prime no question, he is just playing the world #1. And frankly when the two best returners and two of the best defenders play each other there are going to be fewer winners and more points decided by errors.

What's the point of being better if you cannot pull the winners that can win you matches and slams? Hewitt and Roddick could. End of.

Maybe, but Djoko's hit 5 winners in 12 games, and he's doing OK.

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:58 pm

Every service game is a struggle with the way these guys return and neither is overwhelming on serve

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:59 pm

Unbelievable point by Murray. It's like he heard my despair.

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:00 pm

Get in there!

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:00 pm

Winners all over the place in this game.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:00 pm

that's a bit more like it! a false dawn, I fear

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:02 pm

Novak is not really playing well, he is still winning but if he doesn't pick up the pace he could be in trouble if murray pulls his head out

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:03 pm

so unsporting to leave your opponent waiting to receive serve like that, tsk

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:04 pm

Murray uses his leg to get the break back. Novak is not hitting very crisply with the forehand today.

by LuvSports! Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:04 pm

there it is!!!!!

by break_in_the_fifth Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:05 pm

I think Murray may be the more reliable guy to lend his services in the final.

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:05 pm

Novak really starting to misfire with the forehand like murray was in the first set.

by legendkillar Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:06 pm

Djokovic has dipped. Andy must take incentive and advantage. For me Andy was lazy and un-inspired in that first set. Djokovic hasn't broken a sweat and now he has put himself under pressure, there is a slight wobble. Slight.

by Tenez Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:06 pm

Djoko is tired and as a result his shots have lost precision.

by socal1976 Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:07 pm

Very authoritative play from Murray the last two games.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:08 pm

break_in_the_fifth wrote:I think Murray may be the more reliable guy to lend his services in the final.

but he bottles it against Nadal - in a final it'd probably be even worse.

having said that, nice smash, Murray

by HM Murdock Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:09 pm

break_in_the_fifth wrote:I think Murray may be the more reliable guy to lend his services in the final.

On present form, I think both may struggle against Nadal.

by CaledonianCraig Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:11 pm

Fabulous shots from Murray. A break now would be great.

by prostaff85 Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:11 pm

Tenez wrote:Djoko is tired and as a result his shots have lost precision.

How can he be tired after a bit more than one set? Has lost only that 3rd set against Hewitt, and hasn't played any official tournaments since the WTF. Is he preparing the excuses for an eventual loss?

by legendkillar Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:11 pm

This is where Murray needs the Nadal 'foot on the throat' approach when the player is down.

by reckoner Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:12 pm

prostaff85 wrote:
Tenez wrote:Djoko is tired and as a result his shots have lost precision.

How can he be tired after a bit more than one set? Has lost only that 3rd set against Hewitt, and hasn't played any official tournaments since the WTF. Is he preparing the excuses for an eventual loss?

His egg chamber was broken last night if you must know.

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