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Post by DaveM Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:22 am

England have named their team:

u20 side

It's the same side that was supposed to start against Italy. Given the disappointment of having that called off, and the continued use of u20 players at AP sides, I don't think this is surprising.

It's nothing like the strongest side England can put out, but it's still got some good players in it. Slade and Bell are the fourth and fifth choice FHs at this level.

England Under 20 starting XV v Wales
1) Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs)
2) Koree Britton (Gloucester Rugby)
3) Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins)
4) Tom Price (Leicester Tigers)
5) George Merrick (Harlequins)
6) Dom Barrow (Leeds Carnegie)
7) Chris Walker (C) (Leeds Carnegie)
8) Jack Clifford (Harlequins)

9) Dan Robson (Gloucester Rugby)
10) Tommy Bell (Sale Sharks)
11) Josh Bassett (Bedford Blues)
12) Sam Hill (Exeter Chiefs)
13) Charlie Walker (Harlequins)
14) Anthony Watson (London Irish)
15) Ben Ransom (Saracens)

Replacements:
16) Scott Spurling (Saracens)
17) Alec Hepburn (London Wasps)
18) Nick Auterac (Saracens)
19) Elliot Stooke (Gloucester Rugby)
20) Will Skuse (Bath Rugby)
21) Alex Day (Northampton Saints)
22) Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs)
23) Marland Yarde (London Irish)

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Post by Cumbrian Thu Feb 23, 2012 6:37 am

The front five is looking really strong again. I would pick the front row to go toe-to-toe with anyone at this level.

To be honest, I am really looking forward to this, there are a number of guys I really want to see play.

Dom Barrow for instance, I've been reading match reports and opinion on him for a few years, yet never managed to see him play first hand. If he lives up to the potential (hype?) I will be very pleased.

Sam Hill too, his profile suggests he is a big lad. I want to see if he can play too. It's a shame he isn't getting a chance to line up alongside Elliott Daly this time.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:02 am

This Friday 7.45 KO Twickenham Stoop

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Post by RubyGuby Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:50 am

Maybe we'll give George a run out thumbsup

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Post by Hound_of_Harrow Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:06 am

I like watching the U20s; they just go out and play.

Pub tomorrow after work. Bulls v Sharks in the S15, followed by the U20s game.

Sorted.

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Post by DaveM Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:31 am

I haven't checked the ages, but I think the front 5 is fairly young for an u20 side.

I'm pretty sure Sam Hill is still 18, but he did very well against against Barkley and Banahan recently.

Dom Barrow is very highly rated, and has been getting a fair amount of game time for Leeds.

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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:39 am

Game on !

Wales have never beaten England at this level & Wales have no 'A' level so the incentives are there.
As Dean Ryan says quite a few English players have been retained by their clubs @ Premiership level which is good news.
Quite an inexperienced England side out tonight with 10 players missing.

Good luck England & a good taster for tomorrow

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:42 am

Wales Under 20s

15 Ross Jones
14 Harry Robinson
13 Luke Williams
12 Cory Allen
11 Luke Morgan
10 Sam Davies
9 Jonathan Evans

1 Rob Evans
2 Kirby Myhill (Captain)
3 WillGriff John
4 Matthew Screech
5 Rhodri Hughes
6 Ellis Jenkins
7 Daniel Thomas
8 Ieuan Jones

Replacements
16 Jamie Sollis
17 Thomas Davies
18 Samson Lee,
19 Jack Jones
20 Dan Baker
21 Rhodri Williams
22 Jordan Williams
23 Iolo Evans
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:42 am

England Students beat Welsh Students 42-15 just before this game (also at Stoop)

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:43 am

I really dislike our anthem.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:45 am

Such a dirge... Particularly if you happen to be a republican.
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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:46 am

What's going on? Why is it a scrum?
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:46 am

Yes bit of a derge compared to others

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:46 am

Did I miss something there?
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:46 am

England diving in off their feet I think Cumbrian.

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:47 am

wait, a scrum to England?! not a clue as to taht then.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:48 am

I think the kicker must have put it dead from the penalty (certainly sounded that way from the commentators)


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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:48 am

Yeah that was weird! It was a penalty to Wales and then suddenly it's a scrum!
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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:49 am

HammerofThunor wrote:I think the kicker must have put it dead from the penalty

Yep that would explain it,
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:56 am

Nice to see the Welsh U20 side get away with not releasing the tackled players as much as the senior team.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:58 am

My English bias is really coming to the fore now

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:58 am

is it Hammer? I hadn't noticed Whistle


Nice idea to chip over by Sam there but unlucky with the bounce.

Dan Thomas, a knock on aside, is setting himself up to have another great game again.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 6:59 am

Too many unforced errors from England so far, they haven't really clicked yet.
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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:01 am

First blood to Wales. Drop goal from Sam Davies.

0-3 15 min
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:01 am

ooooo crumbs a Welsh FH that can drop goals!

3-0 Wales, da iawn Sam.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:02 am

Dreamer, I'm actually not typing most of what I'm thinking Wink

But at least I'm happy to admit I'm biased (that's the first step I think)

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:04 am

Wow. Ref has actually penalised two of the forward passes. That makes a change (at all levels)


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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:04 am

admitting it always help Hammer Wink


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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:06 am

No way that was forward ( Shocked Very Happy )

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:06 am

Surely there should have been a penalty from that scrum? England destroyed them!

In other news ANOTHER unforced error.
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:07 am

it was yards forward mun!

Very Happy

I'm actually really enjoying this match, v fast pace to it, tis good.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:08 am

Robson's passing hasn't been great so far.
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:09 am

That looked bloody close (by that I mean short). But try given

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:09 am

Josh Bassett 'scores'.

Maybe the ref should have gone upstairs there?
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:09 am

I'd have gone tot he TMO for that.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:10 am

He didn't get anywhere bloody near it!!!
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:10 am

That's short. NEver a try.

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:10 am

Get's the conversion

7-3 25 mins
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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:10 am

England 7 - 3 Wales. Not happy now raspberry

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:12 am

Forwards starting to enter rucks from offside. Need to be careful. Could have been two penalties against us easily

It's funny how Evans highlights any decisions that go against Wales but not the ones that for against Wales.


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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:13 am

Score updates please, Mrs Holybloke has shoite on telly again, this one's about vets shooting elephants - "Safari Shoites" or something...... England u20s versus Wales 3187153522

Thanks in advance......
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Post by PJHolybloke Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:13 am

OK, that last post crossed over...... Ta.
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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:14 am

Now that was try (Watson). Lovely

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:15 am

12-3

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:15 am

Great try from England, Walker's pace is really creating problems. Great tracking from Watson too.
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Post by BigTrevsbigmac Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:15 am

I like Ieaun Evans but he sometimes talks too quickly it makes me feel he is tripping over his words.

But back to the game I love the ambition shown by both sides & for teams that haven't played together that much there is a lot of quality on show.

Wow that was a good try there!

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Post by Guest Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:16 am

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Post by Cumbrian Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:17 am

I know it wasn't easy there, but Robson's passing is disappointing again.
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Post by miteyironpaw Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:18 am

I loved Ieaun Evans pre-match interview, when pointed out that Wales haven't beaten England in U20's since 1623 or whatever it is he comes back, quick as a flash "Well, it's not about results at this level..."

Genius. Do you guys get taught this stuff at school in Wales? or is it really just coming that naturally?

He seemed to be upset enough about the impact on the result of obvious not-try we scored a few minutes ago.

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Post by HammerofThunor Sat Feb 25, 2012 7:20 am

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Robson's passing has been poor at times

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