SixNations round 4 Stats highlights

Some Stats...!

I picked up on the highlights of the Stats. Respect has to go to Italy for the amount of tackles they made, sensational.

Wales

A. Cuthbert Wing Meters Run 124 Turnovers 2
J. Davies Center Tackles 4/0
J. Roberts Center Meters Run 100 Tackles 5/0
D. Lydiate Blindside Tackles 9/0
J. Tuperic Openside Tackles 8/0
T. Faletau Number 8 Tackles 7/0 Turnovers 2 Meters Run 27

Team Stats

Missed tackles 2 = 96.8% Success rate
Meters Ran 525
Penalties Conceded 13

England

B. Foden Fullback 91 Meters ran
M. Tuilagi Center 80 Meters Ran
O. Farrell Flyhalf Tackles 9/0
L. Dickson S/Half Turnovers 4
D. Hartley Hooker Tackles 9/1
L. Parling Lock Tackles 11/1
C Robshaw Openside Tackles 13/1
B. Morgan Number 8 64 Meters Ran

Team Stats

Meters Ran 361
Tackles missed 13 = 88.2% Success rate
Penalties Conceded 11


Ireland

R. Kearney Meters Ran 127 Defenders Beaten 4 Turnovers 2
K. Earls Tackles 11/2 Clean Breaks 2
S. Ferris Tackles 18/0
P. O'Mahony Tackles 9/1 Penalties Conceeded 3
J Heaslip Tackles 7/0

Team Stats

Meters Ran 343
Tackles Missed 10 = 90.3% Success rate
Penalties Conceded 14

France

C. Poitrenaud Meters Ran 73 Turnovers 2
A. Rougerie Meters Ran 54
W Fofana Meters Ran 46 Defenders Beaten 3 Turnovers 3
J. Malzieu Meters Ran 51 Offloads 4 Turnovers 4
T. Dausitoir Tackles 9/0
I. Harinourdiquy Tackles 9/1

Team Stats

Meters Ran 358
Tackles Missed 6 = 92.1% Success rate
Penalties Conceded 5


Scotland

G Morrison Tackles 9/0 Penalties Conceded 3
R Gray Meters Ran 54 Defenders Beaten 4 Tackles 8/0
J Hamilton Tackles 8/0
J Barclay Tackles 8/0
R Rennie Tackles 13/0
D Denton Meters Ran 41 Defenders Beaten 3 Tackles 7/0

Team Stats

Meters Ran 307
Tackles Missed 10 = 90.2% Success rate
Penalties Conceded 11


Italy

Masi Meters Ran 64
Canale Tackles 8/1
Sgarbi Tackles 10/2
McClean Tackles 9/1 Turnovers 3
Ghiraldini Tackles 10/2
Cittadini Tackles 11/0 Penalties conceded 1
Geldenhuys Tackles 12/1 Penalties conceded 1 Turnovers 1
Van Zyl Tackles 10/2
Zanni Tackles 9/0 Turnovers 1
S. Favaro Tackles 10/0 Penalties Conceded 1
S. Parisse Tackles 10/1

Team Stats

Meters Ran 165
Tackles Missed 19 = 88.0% Success rate
Penalties Conceded 13

Stats wre from ESPN

The turnover stats on ESPN are for turnovers conceded, not for turnovers made. Just to clarify.

No it is ball turned over by that player for the good of their team not the detriment.

Example Below:-


http://www.espnscrum.com/six-nations-2012/rugby/match/133776.html

Yeah Maes I think youre right, people are very unsure on that though. Its one of those stats thats a bit dodgy anyway, since often its not the credited player who did the work. Dickson has some stupid number to his name, but hes hardly Mccaw is he. Does anyone remember him making a big tackle, turning the man, leaping to his feet and stripping the ball? ( Ok Im setting myself up now for someone to find the 5 times he does that in the game!)
No he was just the one standing there to pick up the ball when a Cole or whoever came banging over the ruck clearing out the opposition.

It's ball they lost in turnovers. Only way it makes sense, I'm afraid. I presume it includes penalties too

Chequerd, its in the section with all the other " good things this player did" not lumped next to penalties. Being a nerd a checked a load of commentaries when we were having this debate before and found a couple of examples where a player had been turned over and there was no corresponding turnover stat. This may be ESPN being sh1t of course, the numbers are sometimes a bit hmmm even when we know what the stats stands for.

If anyone Welsh has Austin Healy on twitter can they ask him, he works for ESPN as an analyst so he should blooming well know.

He does? That explains a lot

Nope, it is turnovers lost. Not won. Otherwise why does it say a big 0 next to POM's name in that regard? And for SOB last week. Plus over the world cup it was 4 for Quade Cooper (which was quite clear) and if you believe it is turnovers won, then that means Warburton only won 1 turnover the entire world cup.

It is how many times you were turned over.

Must be turnovers conceded - Otherwise it would be the backrow, not the backs who have the high scores.

Cuthbert didn't win 2 turnovers - but he definitely knocked on at least once.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:
If anyone Welsh has Austin Healy on twitter can they ask him, he works for ESPN as an analyst so he should blooming well know.

I don't think Healey is still working for them after his silly outbursts.

Right Ill go with that Rory.

Its a pretty dodgy stat full stop though.

wales606 wrote:Must be turnovers conceded - Otherwise it would be the backrow, not the backs who have the high scores.

Cuthbert didn't win 2 turnovers - but he definitely knocked on at least once.

This. Unless you are all agreeing that Warburton made one turnover the entire world cup, and I think since then has made about 1 also? Same goes for a lot of 7s. If you still don't believe me, look up the international results over the past 12 months and see what it says for players such as Pocock and McCaw, obviously renowned turnover specialists.

Peter Seabiscuit Wheeler wrote:Right Ill go with that Rory.

Its a pretty dodgy stat full stop though.

Agreed.

Didn't spot this post before I posted something similar on a seperate post.

They are definitely turnovers conceded. If you add up the turnovers for each player in the team it matches the total entered under "Turnovers conceded" for that team on the "Match stats" tab.

Robinsons stats

Random arm waving 5
Punching wall 3/1 (missed wall once and caught Townsend in the chops)
Surprise 3
Agahasts 6
Unbelievables 4
Very tired looking man 1

slartibartfast wrote:Robinsons stats

Random arm waving 5
Punching wall 3/1 (missed wall once and caught Townsend in the chops)
Surprise 3
Agahasts 6
Unbelievables 4
Very tired looking man 1

This sort of stat would be much more interesting.

Whilst Lancaster and Farrell Snr would have

Looking stoically at pitch 1000000000000000000000000000000
Emotional response 2

ChequeredJersey wrote:Whilst Lancaster and Farrell Snr would have

Looking stoically at pitch 1000000000000000000000000000000
Emotional response 2

I like the word stoically

slartibartfast wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:Whilst Lancaster and Farrell Snr would have

Looking stoically at pitch 1000000000000000000000000000000
Emotional response 2

I like the word stoically

+1

I don't like statistics, they are misleading.

Jebus, i knew Richie Gray had a great game but his stats are amazing.