WWE Creative told to work on Dean Ambrose debut

WWE writers have been working on ways to bring Dean Ambrose to the main roster. Word is that he will be on the RAW brand.

Source: nodq.com

So how would you debut Dean Ambrose?

Personally if they want him to make a impact straight away then id have him side with the crazy AJ either attacking D Bryan or Punk at their match at MITB

This definitely has to involve Punk or Bryan. I'm thinking after the match and during Punk's celebration (Bryan still in the ring), the lights dim. Up on the Titantron, a video package plays still unclear about what it is. The video package finishes and the lights go out. Moments later, the lights come back up with Punk and Bryan both laid out and Ambrose standing over them. This could then create a feud for Bryan whilst Punk is kept busy by something else (later to feud with Ambrose if he gets a push)

Let's not kid ourselves, he'll début as one of Brodus Clay's backup dancers.

He's got to have an instant impact if hes going to do anything. I'd have him attack whoever loses the WWE title match and MitB. Cant have him going after the champ, that wont last 5 minutes.

certainly a ma with bags of potential and at a relatively young age (for a wrestler) hope they don't mess this one up!

So was the Foley stuff a work or not?

Have him attack Foley on the 1000th editon of Raw IMO and lead to a Summer Slam match. Never going to happen though is it

I was just surprised the whole angle died down completely and wasn't mentioned again

That is, if it was an angle which I am still not sure about!

sodhat wrote:I was just surprised the whole angle died down completely and wasn't mentioned again

That is, if it was an angle which I am still not sure about!

It was an angle that turned into a bit of a shoot. The whole confrontation during Wrestlemania weekend was planned, and the frud was meant to kick on from there but Foley legitimately took offence to Ambrose tweeting about Mick's kids. He asked Ambrose not to mention his kids again, a request that was ignored, and from there Foley stated he didn't want to work with Ambrose. They've since cleared the air according to Foley.


Another thing hampering the whole angle was the fact that Triple H - who is seemingly a fan of Ambrose - feels that Foley isn't worth jack any more and didn't want to saddle a guy WWE have high hopes for with a guy who's name (in HHH's eyes) is worthless.

I'm not convinced it was an angle. I suspect there was something going on and WWE decided to try and make it into an angle then realised it was a bit to real and a bit of a non-story also. I think there is genuine aminosity between the two but over something that isn't really the stuff of a decent storyline. Plus when has Mick ever put on a decent wrestling match recently. Edge v Mick was good but since then?

Disagree Zoot, the way Ambrose confronted Foley had angle written all over it. Fair enough it wasn't your typical 'backstage at RAW' confrontation, I think they were just trying to go a different route and make it seem less contrived.


And to be honest, this feud was never going to be about the match, the same way that any of Foley's future bouts (if he has any) are going to be about what happens from a wrestling standpoint. At this stage of his career it's all about what Foley can do on the mic and the fact that he's willing to take the loss whilst making his opponent look as strong as possible.

It just got so little coverge for me. The "dirt sheets" were all over it but WWE didn't seem to cover it in the slightest. Maybe it was only an angle that Ambrose went to Foley with or something?!?

That's a good point mate. I don't recall there being any mention at all about it from WWE? Maybe they wanted to have a little bit of a back story for when Ambrose debuted? Kind of like;


"Who is this guy?"


"Why it's that low down dirty rat who's been hassling Mick Foley!"

Mick Foley made stars out of Orton and Edge.

He might not have it in the ring anymore, but his promo skills will more than make up for that.

For me? Foleys name still carries weight.

Samo wrote:

For me? Foleys name still carries weight.

Yeah, about 275lbs.

Samo wrote:Mick Foley made stars out of Orton and Edge.

He might not have it in the ring anymore, but his promo skills will more than make up for that.

For me? Foleys name still carries weight.

See I disagree, back then it carried a lot but it has been cheapened massively with the constant use of him in meaningless joke bits. It has got to the point now where I skip anything he does, the whole point of Foley was that whilst he did all those skits he still had that edge to him, for me that edge has been blunt for awhile now after his run in TNA and subsequent return. The PG era doesn't suit Foley and I doubt we would see the kind of actions (barbed wire, fire, drawing pins etc.) being employed which were the main reason for Orton and Edge coming out looking much stronger.

I'd much rather he go up against a full time roster member or if they are to go with a legendary name then go with someone who can still go like Booker.

I think Foley could still pull off what he did for Triple H, Randy Orton and Edge but it would require re-educating the audience somewhat.


You could have Ambrose ripping into Foley for weeks on end, before Foley finally snaps and transforms into his Cactus Jack persona. From there would be the most crucial aspect of the feud - selling 'Cactus Jack' as one of the most dangerous individuals ever to step foot inside a ring. You'd need video footage, interviews with wrestlers and perhaps even guys talking to Ambrose and saying stuff like "Do you realise what you've done?"


Ambrose would need to play a huge part in selling how dangerous & sadistic Cactus Jack was / is, in fact it would be very similar to how the HHH / Foley feud from 2000 played out. Back then, Trips beat up Mankind on RAW but when Foley 'morphed' into Cactus Jack on the following Smackdown HHH sold it like he'd just seen the Devil himself.


I also don't think Foley would need barbed wire, thumbtacks or fire to put on a compelling and somewhat brutal match with Dean Ambrose. Sure they'd have to get a little creative but I reckon they could pull it off and still make Ambrose look like he's just gone through hell to beat one of the most dangerous wrestlers ever.

It's not like Foley has ever been brilliant in the ring anyway, his strength is story-telling and promos and he can still pull that off as well now as he could 6 years ago, which is when he had his feud with Edge.

Like Y2D2 says, you just need to sell it as a big deal and the audience would buy into it as a big deal. It'd be a better use of Foley than comedy segments anyway and it wouldn't harm any of the other midcarders he would have to go over instead.

The problem with your idea Y2 is that the WWE seem to be incapable of sensible booking these days. But thats pretty much exactly how I would book it.