Provinces starting 15 (+ Scots and Italians if they want to join in)

Theres a similar Welsh one so I though we could go an Irish one and then compare, we ca even add the 2 Scottish and 2 Italian sides here as well

To keep the format the same for each well use

use Red stags 1st Choice XV: 2nd Choice XV 3rd Choice XV and make NIQ players

Looks far neater thanks Stag

to start Ulster

1st XV

1)Tom Court
2)Rory Best
3)John Afoa - NIQ
4)Johann Muller -NIQ
5)Dan Tuohy
6)Stephen Ferris
7)Chris Henry
8)Roger Wilson

9) Ruan Pienaar - NIQ
10)Paddy Jackson

11)Andrew Trimble
12)Paddy Wallace
13)Darren Cave
14)Tommy Bowe
15) Jared Payne - NIQ


2nd XV

1)Paddy McAllister
2)Nigel Brady
3)Declan Fitzpatrick
4)Henderson
5)Lewis Stevenson
6)Nick Williams - NIQ
7)Sean Doyle
8)Robbie Diack

9) Paul Marshall,
10) NOC

11)Craig Gilroy,
12)Nevin Spence
13)Luke Marshall
14) Chris Cochrane,
15) Adam D'Arcy,


3rd XV

1) Callum Black
2) Niall Annett
3) Adam Macklin
4) Neil McComb
5) James Simpson
6) John Burns
7) Ali Birch
8) Mike McComish
9) Michael Heaney/Blane McIlroy
10) Stuart Olding
11) ?
12) Chris Farrell
13) Michael Allen
14) Ricky Andrew?
15) Peter Nelson


someone could maybe complete it.

to add to that I don't think Wilson Henry Gilroy Marshall or Cave will actually be called up, maybe to extended training camps with the team before being sent home, so won't miss much of Ulsters season.

D'arcy will be a more important squad player, covering fullback (payne won't play every game, and the wing when Trimble and Bowe are away.

Munster Rugby


1st Choice XV:
01 Wian du Preez - NIQ
02 Mike Sherry
03 BJ Botha - NIQ
04 Donnacha Ryan
05 Paul O'Connell
06 CJ Stander - NIQ
07 Niall Ronan
08 Peter O'Mahony
09 Conor Murray
10 Ronan O'Gara
11 Keith Earls
12 James Downey
13 Casey Laulala - NIQ
14 Doug Howlett - NIQ
15 Felix Jones

2nd Choice XV:
01 Marcus Horan
02 Damien Varley
03 Stephen Archer
04 Donnacha O'Callaghan
05 Ian Nagle
06 David O'Callaghan
07 Tommy O'Donnell
08 James Coughlan
09 Peter Stringer
10 Ian Keatley
11 Simon Zebo
12 JJ Hanrahan
13 Danny Barnes
14 Johne Murphy
15 Denis Hurley

3rd Choice XV:
01 David Kilcoyne
02 Sean Henry
03 John Ryan
04 David Foley
05 Billy Holland
06 Barry O'Mahony
07 Sean Dougall
08 Paddy Butler
09 Duncan Williams
10 Scott Deasy
11 Luke O'Dea
12 Ivan Dineen
13 Troy Smith
14 Ronan O'Mahony
15 Sean Scanlon

Naturally some will disagree with mine but sure feic it. The options I'd like to see us delpoy are below. Stag's is more accurate I'd say.


1.Wian Du Preez/Dave Kilcoyne/Marcus Horan
2.Mike Sherry/Damian Varley/Sean Henry
3. BJ Botha/Bj Botha/ N/A Archer more than likely or maybe Cotter? Is he a TH?
4. Donnacha Ryan/DOC/ Billy Holland
5.Paul O'Connell/Ian Nagle/DocV2 or Dave Foley
6. CJ Stander/Docv2/ Tommy O'Donnell
7. Peter O'Mahony/Niall Ronan/Sean Dougal
8. James Coughlan/James Coughla/ Paddy Butler

9. Conor Murray/Peter Stringer/Duncan Williams
10. ROG/ Ian Keatley/JJ Hanrahan
11. Simon Zebo/Simon Zebo/ Johne Murphy
12. James Downey/ James Downey/ JJ Hanrahan
13. Casey Laulala/ Casey Laulala/ Danny Barnes
14.Doug Howlett/Doug Howlett/ Denis Hurley
15. Keith Earls/Felix Jones/Denis Hurley

Here’s Leinster’s best players in each position, I’ve not done a HC/Pro12/Next best option because god knows who will play in what, Joe is notoriously hard to predict. I’ve also left out some players with long term injuries such as Ruddock, Fitzgerald, O’Brien etc.

1) Cian Healy / Heinke Van der Merwe / Jack McGrath
2) Richardt Strauss / Sean Cronin / Aaron Dundon/Tom Sexton
3) Mike Ross / Jamie Hagan / Michael Bent (not sure what order to put them in)
4) Leo Cullen / Damien Browne (if he’s still here) / Tom Denton?
5) Devin Toner / Mark Flanagan / Quinn Roux
6) Kevin McLaughlin / Dom Ryan /
7) Shane Jennings
8) Jamie Heaslip / Leo Auva’a
9) Eoin Reddan / Isaac Boss / John Cooney
10) Johnny Sexton / Ian Madigan / Noel Reid
11) Dave Kearney / Fionn Carr
12) Gordon Darcy / Fergus McFadden / Colm O’Shea
13) Brian O’Driscoll / Eoin O’Malley / Brendan Macken
14) Isa Nacewa / Andrew Conway
15) Rob Kearney

We’re pretty light on back 3 cover and our depth in the back row will be tested, hopefully any of Muphy, Conan, Coughlan, Gilsenan will be able to make the step up.

Yeah with 3 guys gone who'd be in and around the 23 we look a bit barer than normal.

We still have an NIQ signing I do believe I wonder where it will go?

Has Fitz signed?

Actually, he hasn’t. Or if he has it hasn’t been announced.

He’s had a bloody bad run of luck, out until next year, hope he’s given a 1 year contract and allowed play himself back into the team.

Edinburgh

1 XV

1) Jacobson
2) Ford
3) WP Nel (NSQ - Project)
4) van der Westhuizen (NSQ - Project)
5) Gilchrist
6) Denton
7) Rennie
8) Talei
9) Rees
10) Laidlaw
11) Visser
12) Scott
13) De Luca
14) Jones
15) Brown

2 XV

1) Yapp (NSQ)
2) Lawrie
3) Cross
4) Cox (NSQ)
5) Turnbull
6) McInally
7) Grant
8) Basilaia (NSQ)
9) Leck (NSQ)
10) Leonard
11) Sep Visser (NSQ)
12) King
13) Atiga (NSQ)
14) Farndale
15) Tonks

3 XV

1) Niven
2) Walker
3) Hislop
4) McAlpine
5) Parker
6)
7) Watson
8)
9) Black
10) Hunter
11) Penn
12) Houston
13) Cairns
14) Fife
15)

Light in the back 3 and in the 6/8 position

Yeah I didn't think anything had been.

So what position are we going to sign a player in for this year?

I have to say the quality of lock we have doesn't seem that of Euro Champions, everywhere else looks good until you get down to 3rd choice and we have better 3rd choice lads than a lot of other teams

Connacht

1st Choice XV:
1Brett Wilkinson
2 Ethienne Reynecke - NIQ
3 Nathan White - NIQ (project?)
4 Mike McCarthy
5 Michael Swift
6 John Muldoon (c)
7 Willie Faloon
8 George Naoupu - NIQ
9 Frank Murphy
10 Dan Parks - NIQ
11Fetu'u Vainikolo - NIQ
12 David McSharry
13 Eoin Griffin
14 Danie Poolman - NIQ (project)
15 Gavin Duffy


2nd Choice XV:
1 Denis Buckley
2 Jason Harris-Wright
3 Rodney Ah You -NIQ
4 Andrew Browne
5 David Gannon
6 Johnny O'Connor
7 TJ Anderson
8 Eoghan Grace
9 Paul O'Donohoe
10 Miah Nikora
11 James Loxton
12 Brian Murphy
13 Kyle Tonetti
14 Mark McCrea
15 Tiernan O'Halloran


3rd Choice XV:
1 Stewart Maguire
2 Adrian Flavin
3 Ronan Loughney
4 Ultan Dillane
5 David Nolan
6 Eoin McKeon
7
8
9 David Moore
10 Matthew Jarvis
11
12
13
14
15

mine be a little mixed up with tighthead/loosehead and some may be 1st Xv

I thought Poolman was a centre?

Winger I thought.

He's a centre that can play on the wing from what I've read.

plays mainly center but can also play wing,

Think that Mcsharry- Griffin have a good centre partnership that will be difficult for him to break. So wing for H-cups games and in Center when Griffen or Mcsharry are rested/injuried etc.

or lets just say there is a good competition for center wing places a t Connacht when no one is guarenteed to be staring in the H-cup, as it will be the form choice good centers and a lot of good wingers as well

Kingshu I think Henderson will be ahead of Neil McComb in the pecking order for sure. Probably Gilroy ahead of Trimble if Trimble doesn't improve.

I'd see our third XV looking like;

3rd XV

1) Callum Black
2) Niall Annett
3) Adam Macklin
4) Neil McComb
5) James Simpson
6) John Burns
7) Ali Birch
8) Mike McComish
9) Michael Heaney/Blane McIlroy
10) Stuart Olding
11) ?
12) Chris Farrell
13) Michael Allen
14) Ricky Andrew?
15) Peter Nelson

Cheers Notch, wasn't to sure about some of the 3rd 15 so updated it.

So many NIQ props in Ireland, Jeebus.

Glasgow Warriors:

1. Ryan Grant/Jon Welsh/Gordon Reid
2. Pat MacArthur/Finlay Gillies/Dougie Hall
3. Mike Cusack/Moray Low/Ed Kalman
4. Al Kellock/Nick Campbell
5. Tom Ryder/Tim Swinson
6. Rob Harley/Angus MacDonald/James Eddie
7. John Barclay/Chris Fusaro
8. Ryan Wilson/Viliami Ma'afu

9. Chris Cooosetah/Henry Pyrgos/Colin Gregor/Murray McConnell
10. Duncan Weir/Rhubarb Jackson/Scott Wight
11. Sean Lamont/Taylor Paris
12. Graeme Morrison/Troy Nathan
13. Alex Dunbar/Byron McGuigan/Peter Horne
14.DTH vd Merwe/Tommy Seymour
15. Stuart Hogg/Rory Lamont/Peter Murchie

pete (buachaill on eirne) wrote:So many NIQ props in Ireland, Jeebus.

There are also a lot of promising irish props coming through