Liverpool FC Thread

[Crimey]

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Liverpool FC

Transfers in:

Fabio Borini (£11 million)
Joe Allen (£15 million)
Joe Cole (return from loan)
Oussama Assaidi (£2.4 million)
Nuri Sahin (on loan)
Samed Yesil (£1 million)

Transfers out:

Dirk Kuyt (£1 million)
Maxi Rodriguez (Free)
Fabio Aurelio (Free)
Alberto Aquilani (£7 million)
Craig Bellamy (Free)
Andy Carroll (loan)
Jay Spearing (loan)
Charlie Adam (£4 million)

[Lee]

From the LFC site

Liverpool Football Club can today confirm that Craig Bellamy has completed a transfer to Championship side Cardiff City.

The Welsh forward first joined Liverpool in 2006 but departed for West Ham a year later.

He returned to Anfield for a second stint in 2011 and in January 2012 netted the goal that took the Reds back to Wembley for the first time in 16 years.

In total Bellamy scored 18 goals in 79 games for Liverpool.

Everyone at the club would like to wish him all the best for the future

[Crimey]

Gutted. Bellamy was probably our best player last year behind Suarez.

Rodgers needs to move now and bring in at least two wingers to replace Kuyt, Maxi and Bellamy.

Somebody needs to remind him of how awful J.Cole was last time around, he didn't put in an ounce of effort and he isn't quick or fit enough to be relied upon as a winger.

[Kenny]

Liverpool have been drawn against Hearts in the Europa league qualifying game

[Crimey]

Should win comfortably really.

[Kenny]

1st games away then back at Anfield , i prefer us being away in the 1st leg gives us chance to put pressure on with an away goal or two

[GSC]

Come on hearts!

(not being anti Liverpool, half my family are hearts fans from Edinburgh :P)

[Crimey]

1st games away then back at Anfield , i prefer us being away in the 1st leg gives us chance to put pressure on with an away goal or two

Yeah, I can see the same thing happening again, poor away and then good at home. Hopefully the same won't be true in the league, will just be a reverse of last year.

[Kenny]

Had a little look around today regarding any transfer movement

According to reports in Italy we have placed a bid of 12.6 million for Gaston Ramirez today . Also looks like we are now in pole position to take Sahin on loan from Real Madrid

[GSC]

Sahin wants CL so I'd be surprised

[Crimey]

Ramirez deal would be a great one.

Not too sure on the Sahin deal, with Allen coming in we'll be pretty bloated in the central midfield area. Would expect Spearing to go out on loan if that is the case.

I think transfer priorities should be:

Finish Allen deal.
Winger (Gaston Ramirez)
Winger (Really not sure)
Ensure Agger stays.
LB (Cover for Enrique, at the moment we have Robinson and then Agger and Johnson would could play there)

[Kenny]

Do you think Moses from Wigan would be worth a punt on the wing ?

I expect Spearing and Shelvey to go out on loan

[Crimey]

As long as we don't bring in another midfielder, I'd hope Shelvey can stick around. He's developing at a nice pace and will learn more under Gerrard than anywhere else.

I do rate Moses, it just depends how much we can get him for. It looks pretty likely that he's off to Chelsea and for nearly £10m which is far too much.

I think that Adam Johnson would be a decent option, but I'm wary about getting into business with City who will try and get Agger into any kind of deal.

I just don't have any realistic ideas for another winger, Walcott is on his last year, but I imagine Arsenal will demand quite a bit of money.

[Guest]

I'd take Johsnon over Walcott every day of the week.

[Crimey]

I'd take Johsnon over Walcott every day of the week.

If we do sign Ramirez though, it would mean we already have two right wingers who cut in with their left foot. As much as I'd like to see Downing on the left, I think Rodgers is going to use him on the right. We wouldn't really need Johnson.

We need a left winger, perhaps one who cuts in on his right foot. I just can't think of anybody.

[lfc91]

We definatley need wingers, we have a ridiculous amout of CMs if even before allen comes.(granted some arent great but still). We've needed quality width for a few seasons now! And like someone pointed out with the old guard gone(maxi, kuyt and bellamy) we need it now more than ever!

[Lee]

http://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/latest-news/allen-completes-liverpool-move

[Crimey]

That was quick. Good.

Now Rodgers can quickly move to secure ourselves at least one more winger.

Will edit the first post with recent news etc.

[Lee]

cool

[Kenny]

Allen was Rodgers priority signing by the look of things , hopefully now we can get a couple more players in

[Crimey]

Allen will wear the number 24 shirt.

The last player to wear that number was David N'Gog, let's hope he does better.

[Guest]

Allen is an interesting signing to say the least. Whilst his passing stats were regularly highlighted last season he didn't really - in my eyes anyway - pull up any trees. 15 million is a big risk.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

For me Allen is a great player, far better than Britton at Swansea. £15 million is far too much for him, but he is still a great player and I think he will do well at Liverpool. It is a big loss for Swansea, who have to replace him and Sigurdsson this pre season

[Crimey]

It will hopefully help Rodgers instill his philosophy though, which I think he'd struggle with the central midfielders we have, it means he can sit deep and act as playmaker.



Borini----------------Suarez------------Downing/new winger

----------Gerrard-----Allen----Lucas-------

Enrique--Agger------------Skrtel--------Johnson

----------------------Reina-----------------------------


Is anybody really convinced that we have improved a lot. I'm not sure on Borini, I hope he can come good, but not really convinced. A new winger would definitely help. Lucas was the big loss last year.

[Guest]

Not a great deal of height there in our attackers. Perhaps an out and out winger with an emphasis on crossing may not be so needed? Unless of course Carroll manages to swing back into favour?

Rodgers appears to model his teams on a more continental style putting possession before penetration.

That said I'd like to see Adam Johnson arrive.

[Crimey]

Weirdly I felt against Gomel there were plenty of times that our players were whipping balls in that Carroll would have thrived on, but Suarez just wasn't tall enough for.

Either Rodgers will utilise Carroll more than we thought, or he'll stamp that out.

I think the fans are going to force Rodgers to keep Carroll and I have a feeling he'll turn it around, and prove he can have a role in the system.

[Guest]

I think Carroll has been dealt with pretty roughly since Rodgers' arrival and suspect he is already gone. This has got a deadline day sale written all over it!

Hope I'm wrong though. Carroll had a very good final third of last season and probably deserves better.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

If Carroll goes, people will suss out Liverpool quicker. Carroll offers the alternative every club needs, a plan B. If not people will just force Liverpool out wide, so they have to cross, which the CB's will gobble up

[Kenny]

Allen is ' that ' player who everything will go through , he will sit in the middle get the ball and pass it on again and again which is why his stats are so good . For me i like that it upsets opposing teams making them chase the ball more .

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I do think the 4-3-1-2 formation works very well against Rodgers's teams, but only if the full backs can handle the wingers. I know Lambert did Rodgers twice last season using that formation...

[Guest]

I do think the 4-3-1-2 formation works very well against Rodgers's teams, but only if the full backs can handle the wingers. I know Lambert did Rodgers twice last season using that formation...

Fighting talk that Olly! Bring it on!!

[Crimey]

Unfortunately for Olly, it'll be Villa who will benefit from that....

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I know

Hence why outside bet for the season is for Villa to do the double of Liverpool

But seriously, his formation can be worked out, so thats why I think he's gotta keep Carroll so he can vary it

[Kenny]

Agree totally , we cant just have a Plan A we need options and Carroll gives us that

[Lee]

Sterling, Lucas and Carroll have scored for Liverpool against Leverkusen

68 mins gone 3-0

[Lee]

3-1 good goal by Sam 75th min

[Lee]

FT Liverpool 3 Bayer Leverkusen 1

[Guest]

How did we play Lee?

[Lee]

First half we looked pretty good, some nice passing at times, a bit like the Gomel game in places. I was only half watching the second half though, so I dunno, but there where a number of changes in the second half.

[Kenny]

Bit hard to judge as this was played as a pre season game with all the subs and trying things out . But a win is a win

[Lee]

true. But happy to see Sterling score.

[Kenny]

It's good he is getting game time , sick of hearing about him going to Spurs

[Kenny]

Daniel Agger has said he would prefer to stay at Liverpool but says he understands that if a bid of 25+million comes in he maybe sold . He aslo explain his new tattoo YNWA on his knuckles is his way of showing how much he appreciates the fans and city .

Martin Skrtel is expected to sign a new 4 year deal by the end of the week .

[Crimey]

I'm glad that as the season draws closer, things are becoming more possible. Just hoping no big bid comes in for Agger, don't want to disrupt the back four.

Just hoping to hear of a winger being signed within the next few days, hopefully somebody like Ramirez will be signed by the time we face West Brom.

[Kenny]

Talk in the papers today regarding moves for Walcott , Johnson and Tello . Nothing being said about Ramirez .

[Guest]

Daniel Agger has said he would prefer to stay at Liverpool but says he understands that if a bid of 25+million comes in he maybe sold . He aslo explain his new tattoo YNWA on his knuckles is his way of showing how much he appreciates the fans and city .

Martin Skrtel is expected to sign a new 4 year deal by the end of the week .

One of the smarter footballers. Very cute.

[liverbnz]

Rameriz's agent said a few days ago that his people meet with some of Liverpool's people a while back but there has been no contact since.

[Kenny]

Without reading back over all the posts i dont know if this has been mentioned before but whats peoples opinions on the 3 new kits ?
Being a father of a football mad 9 year old i have bought all 3 but not sure im sold on the away or 3rd kit , i like the new home shirt although the material reminds me of some t-shirts i had in the 80's .

[Crimey]

I like the home shirt, I don't like the away shirt (the one that looks like a wet suit) and the third kit is alright. I think because of the old school style of the home shirt, they've tried to make the other two a bit more modern.

[Lee]

Spoiler:

I have seen the away kit compared to this kit from 1900 in having the colour around the neck. don't know if that is actually the inspiration or not though

[compelling and rich]

just had a look at the fixtures and a very tough start for liverpool, you reckon rogers will get the support he needs if you get off to a bad start, roy wasnt given much of a shot

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