Shanghai Thread

by The Special Juan Mon Oct 08, 2012 11:38 am

First topic message reminder :

Draw here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Shanghai_Rolex_Masters_%E2%80%93_Singles

Is it just me or is the court painfully slow?

by Danny_1982 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:21 pm

This has started off at a ferocious pace.

Both players playing some great stuff.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:27 pm

bogbrush wrote:summerblues, I think he only came here for 300.

You could be right.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:29 pm

Danny_1982 wrote:This has started off at a ferocious pace.

Both players playing some great stuff.

Andy trying to play aggressive.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:30 pm

Nice BH from Fed Smile

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:33 pm

Uh oh

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:34 pm

Oh dear, Fed does not usually do that.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:35 pm

To win multiple slams, you need a serve that can bag you a lot of free points, ground game alone is not enough. Murray needs a more tricky serve to be able to win more than he has. Saying that his returns have been very accurate and will prove the key in this match.

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:35 pm

Bloody hell Roger.

by Danny_1982 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:35 pm

3 double faults in a row from Roger to concede the break.

Wow. Has he ever done that before?

by **laverfan** Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:35 pm

DFs in a row. Sad

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:36 pm

The second time I'm supporting Roger this year (FO semi as well), and he's playing sh!t.
Why does he do this to me? He must hate me.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:38 pm

Again Murray likes to play cross court too much, this tactic is eaten alive by Nadal and Federer. Down the line is more successful.

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:38 pm

Blinking hek, supporting and watching Roger when he's making errors like that is agony.
Why can't he do what Nadal does and loop it really really high in the air to make sure he doesn't miss.

by Danny_1982 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:40 pm

Federer's level has dropped here.

But Murray doesn't want to keep going forehand to forehand with him.

It may have improved big time, but not the point where it can out do Rogers!

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:41 pm

OK cmon Roger, at-least hold now.

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:41 pm

Murray's playing him off the park here.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:42 pm

Come to expect this rustyness in semi finals now. Roger has become the king at not bringing it in semis for some immoral reason.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:43 pm

Roger had better wake up quick or this can turn ugly. Making way too many errors.

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:44 pm

summerblues wrote:Roger had better wake up quick or this can turn ugly. Making way too many errors.

ikr.

He does this whenever I support him. Also in FO 2012 semi, he was every other shot.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:44 pm

Andy playing quite well though, came in with a lot of purpose.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:44 pm

It Must Be Love wrote:Murray's playing him off the park here.

shut up.

Murray has the break thanks to 3 DF's. Hell even Ferrer wouldn't choke with those gifts. Federer should of served under hand.

by User 774433 Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:46 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:
It Must Be Love wrote:Murray's playing him off the park here.
shut up.

Murray has the break thanks to 3 DF's. Hell even Ferrer wouldn't choke with those gifts. Federer should of served under hand.

*should have

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:50 pm

Rogers serve is a huge stinking mess. Look at him in 2005 2006 he nearly never got broken unless against Nadal, Nalbandian. The serve isfilled with doubt and slips away from him.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:52 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Rogers serve is a huge stinking mess. Look at him in 2005 2006 he nearly never got broken unless against Nadal, Nalbandian. The serve isfilled with doubt and slips away from him.

Today yes. In general I would not say so. I would say his serve is at least as good these days as it was in his prime.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:57 pm

summerblues wrote:
Josiah Maiestas wrote:Rogers serve is a huge stinking mess. Look at him in 2005 2006 he nearly never got broken unless against Nadal, Nalbandian. The serve isfilled with doubt and slips away from him.
Today yes. In general I would not say so. I would say his serve is at least as good these days as it was in his prime.

LAUGHABLE.

The serve has been abseiling away from him since after he won the maiden french open. H needs ultra fast surface to have a chance against Murray anymore. Murray is a tougher match up for Roger than Novak ever was.

by Danny_1982 Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:02 pm

Murray is on fire here.

Fed will do well to escape this game.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:03 pm

Some amazing returning from Andy. Was this not 40-0 at one point?

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:04 pm

The returning of serve today is quite class. Federer's serve really needs a different angle to shake the game up.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:08 pm

Roger trying to buy time...

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:09 pm

Much as I like him, just get on with it.

by CAS Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:09 pm

Rogers right, just clean it up for a minute and play on. He's hardly suggesting they should come off the court

by **laverfan** Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:10 pm

Rain and roof discussion.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:11 pm

CAS wrote:Rogers right, just clean it up for a minute and play on. He's hardly suggesting they should come off the court

I don't know, I still think there was a bit of gamesmanship there. If the score were different I think he would have reacted differently.

by CAS Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:12 pm

Federer under the roof though, could change this match

by **laverfan** Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:12 pm

The Rain Drops song. Laugh

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:12 pm

Really embarrassing gamesmanship from Federer. Nadal would NEVER do this if he was playing and behind. Nadal remains the most humble ever.

by CAS Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:13 pm

summerblues wrote:
CAS wrote:Rogers right, just clean it up for a minute and play on. He's hardly suggesting they should come off the court
I don't know, I still think there was a bit of gamesmanship there. If the score were different I think he would have reacted differently.

I dont think so, he was really calm about it he wasn't throwing a hissy fit and now he's happy to continue

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:14 pm

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:14 pm

Cool point.

by **laverfan** Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:15 pm

Since the 3DFs in a row, Federer has had his break. What a rally.

by bogbrush Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:15 pm

How does breaking off at deuce on your own serve help?

by LuvSports! Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:15 pm

woowwwwww speechless

by **laverfan** Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:15 pm

Federer hangs on.

by Haddie-nuff Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:16 pm

Josiah Maiestas wrote:Really embarrassing gamesmanship from Federer. Nadal would NEVER do this if he was playing and behind. Nadal remains the most humble ever.

:

Glad to see you are finally man enough to acknowledge it Whistle

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:17 pm

Mind boggling, leg twitching kind of game from Federer to hold. Box office hold. Choke hold.

by coolpixel Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:17 pm

a 17 slam winner does not roll over so easily.. and yes maybe some gamesmanship, so bloody what? it is interesting to me to hear the commentary. Murray is suddenly the greatest thing since sunshine.

by summerblues Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:17 pm

CAS wrote:I dont think so, he was really calm about it he wasn't throwing a hissy fit and now he's happy to continue

Yeah he was pretty cool and professional about it and I do not think he was really too stressed over it one way or another but I do think he did it with a bit of an ulterior motive.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Haddie-nuff wrote:
Josiah Maiestas wrote:Really embarrassing gamesmanship from Federer. Nadal would NEVER do this if he was playing and behind. Nadal remains the most humble ever.
:

Glad to see you are finally man enough to acknowledge it

I kept a straight face while writing that. Honest. All 17 slams are now tainted by this moment of delaying.

by Danny_1982 Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:18 pm

Gamesmanship or not, could be a big momentum swing.

In both Wimbledon and the Olympics there were two mamouth long games just like that. The guy who came out of it won both finals.

by Josiah Maiestas Sat Oct 13, 2012 2:20 pm

It is sad that Federer is hoping on Murray getting tired. Its the same tactic Murray usually uses against anyone he plays. Pffffttt

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