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Post by mystiroakey Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 11:03

Crazy times hey..

Will he be the man to put heavy weight boxing back on the map...????

surely not..

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 12:44

Good grief! Just seen this story. I do hope Flintoff isn't going to become the new Gazza ....

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Post by guildfordbat Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 12:44

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Post by VTR Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 12:57

Embarassing. I'd still expect him to beat Audley Harrison though...

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 15:52

yeah he probally would!!

Anyway It was kinda good to see him so fit- I have never seen him in that shape- Kinda sucks that he didnt do the same when he was playing cricket!!

He should have had a personal trainer back then- Could have been an all time great!

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Post by Mike Selig Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 15:56

guildfordbat wrote:I do hope Flintoff isn't going to become the new Gazza ....


I expressed my worries about how Freddie would deal with the loss of the spotlight shortly after his retirement. These worries were exacerbated with his ill-informed and needlessly expressed rant at Mike Atherton. I hope this isn't another step down that path...

Comparisons with Gazza are so far well-made. Let's hope things turn out better for Flintoff, but he'll need good advice and help.

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Post by VTR Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 16:16

To be fair, he's nowhere near as bad as Gazza who really is a basket case and as bad as anything seen since George Best.

Freddie's career post cricket has been laughable though. A few woeful TV shows, a Morrison's advert and now this.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 16:19

Freddie is earning money i suppose- and keeping fit at the same time. I suppose he looks like he has a chance to make money and is still earning.. He has done alot of runs etc for charity as well..

Clearly becoming a pro boxer is abit delusional!!

Gazza poor lad- seems to be close to being ruined forthe rest of his life, I hope he gets some peace and stays of the booze.

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Post by Hibbz Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 16:29

mystiroakey wrote:yeah he probally would!!

Anyway It was kinda good to see him so fit- I have never seen him in that shape- Kinda sucks that he didnt do the same when he was playing cricket!!

He should have had a personal trainer back then- Could have been an all time great!

I've thought this too Mysti. Must be the only professional sportsman who's actually got fitter after retirement.

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 22:46

Perhaps Freddie was inspired by Adam Hollioake who took up cage fighting. His professional debut in May this year ended in what sounded like a fairly painful draw. Could be something to do with getting renewed sense of purpose for keeping fit, getting some structure back into life....

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Post by Shelsey93 Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 22:51

I suspect, unfortunately, its all about money. People will pay more to watch him box (probably vs an opponent they think he'll beat) than they will all but the very elite.

Freddie's been left in the difficult position of still only being 34, and watching everyone else in his generation get their pockets lined by the IPL whilst he can't do anything. He doesn't have the Strauss-type character which allows him to move on without really missing it; nor does he have the stability of a job in the cricket media or in coaching.

So he has to turn to increasingly weird ways to do something. I suspect that, like KP, he has an ego which needs massaging and getting paid money to box serves that purpose.

I also wouldn't be entirely surprised to see him as the next cricketer on Strictly Come Dancing.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 5:31

Well these reality shows or talent shows are begining to get mundane.. Maybe its time to start up celeb boxing or something fronted by ChrisEeubank and Frank Bruno..


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Post by msp83 Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 9:02

Perhaps its about the money and the lack of spotlight that is making Flintoff go into these rather weird ways.

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Post by Biltong Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 9:14

Did he ever box as an amateur?

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 9:19

Yes he actually did i think

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Post by Biltong Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 9:40

Then if he has, it makes sense, for a guy in his middle thirties to start boxing with no experience is dangerous.
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Post by Stella Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 9:51

I've seen him spar and he looks like he's done a bit of boxing. I suppose Boxing is better than drinking. Good luck to him.
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Post by guildfordbat Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 21:37

Shelsey93 wrote:I suspect, unfortunately, its all about money.

I'm sure that's right. Flintoff is now living in my neck of the woods, although a much more affluent part; Cobham, home of the Chelsea training ground and several of their players. He won't find it cheap in that area and mixing with that sort of company.

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Post by mystiroakey Tue 23 Oct 2012 - 21:57

yep very nice place that...


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Post by skyeman Thu 29 Nov 2012 - 22:31

Fight night tomorrow, over the ropes in four in four. Just hope he does not get battered too much.

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Post by mystiroakey Thu 29 Nov 2012 - 23:57

cheers for the heads up

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Post by invisiblecoolers Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 2:12

Mike Selig wrote:
guildfordbat wrote:I do hope Flintoff isn't going to become the new Gazza ....


I expressed my worries about how Freddie would deal with the loss of the spotlight shortly after his retirement. These worries were exacerbated with his ill-informed and needlessly expressed rant at Mike Atherton. I hope this isn't another step down that path...

Comparisons with Gazza are so far well-made. Let's hope things turn out better for Flintoff, but he'll need good advice and help.

Exactly, Shane Watson once said he wanna become like Freddie, a great talent who never realized his actual potential.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 5:08

that was mainly due to injuries though..

Shane watson is my fav cricter out there btw(bar my english boys offcourse)! and he is certainly very very similar to freddie

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Post by Corporalhumblebucket Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:40

He won.... Shocked

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Post by skyeman Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:45

Blimey, was put down in the second but won on points in the end. Good for him.

Retire now Freddie with a winning record.

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Post by mystiroakey Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:46

did he win!!

i should have seen it!

well done freddie!

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Post by GSC Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:48

I suppose its a bit of money and spotlight for Freddie.
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Post by GSC Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:48

It was one of the worst fights in time tbf. Opponent was predictably useless
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Post by mystiroakey Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:53

but he was a pro!


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Post by skyeman Fri 30 Nov 2012 - 23:55

So a bandicoot bitten, starving and one hand tied behind his back - David Haye could have taken him out.

Or was he better than that?

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Post by mystiroakey Sat 1 Dec 2012 - 0:01

a pro is a pro is a pro!

flinty has only just started training this sport and he had had a full on carrer in another sport- this is an acheivement however bad the fighter was

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Post by gboycottnut Sat 1 Dec 2012 - 17:38

They should do an boxing contest which honours the ashes test series every4 or so years. Flintoff and Botham can represent England; whilst the Australians can have guys like David Boon and Ian Chapell

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Post by Guest Sat 1 Dec 2012 - 17:43

well done freddie, however the fight was awful!

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Post by Duty281 Sat 1 Dec 2012 - 17:43

Now that Ponting's retired, we can have him go toe-to-toe with Freddie in the ring!

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Post by gboycottnut Sat 1 Dec 2012 - 18:18

Duty281 wrote:Now that Ponting's retired, we can have him go toe-to-toe with Freddie in the ring!
I would rather see a heavyweight contest between those 2 arch enemies Ian Botham and Ian Chappell.

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Post by Guest Tue 4 Dec 2012 - 11:42

i was hoping this fight would be it, but if it was, it would just show that it was a publicty stunt..

if he fights anyone half decent he will get knocked out, and no one wants to see that!!

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