Week 12 discussion thread (THANKSGIVING DAY FOOTBALL!)

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

First topic message reminder :

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FOOTBALL THANKSGIVING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[cherriesfna]

It was only Arizona cherries

Miami btw congrats on ur win didnt see that coming

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Speaking of Arizona, the first team ever to collapse from 4-0 to 4-7.

Whisenhunt take a number and prepare to be fired.

[cherriesfna]

btw in his last 4 games wilson had thrown 10 TDs and 1 INT

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Looking at the playoff picture, the top 4 in the AFC are set. Texans look set for a bye with 1 of Pats, Broncos and Ravens to follow. Colts look set to get in by default, and the Steelers need Ben back next week to hold off a charging Bengals team. Yeah the AFC is really top heavy.

The Falcons can take a big step towards a bye with a win over NO on TNF. Bears are clinging to the #3 seed, but a matchup with GB looms large to decide the NFC North which remains the only division probably up for grabs.

Giants hold tie breakers over the 49ers and Packers, though remain a game behind SF. You'd say its going to be Falcons, 49ers, Bears, Giants, Packers +1 in the NFC. Seahawks currently hold that spot, but down their 2 starting CBs and a limited passing game they're in trouble.

[CFCNick]

Yeah.

But what's the difference? They both suck.

[CFCNick]

I'd like to think the Bears can hold on but if Green Bay come back to win the division it could catapult NYG to the 3rd or potentially 2nd seed. The 49ers have the Rams twice, the Pats and the mighty mighty Seahawks.

[mikeygnfl]

The Giants are a game and a half behind the 49ers in their quest for the 2nd seed. There would have to be a two game turnaround.

The 49ers have already played the Rams once (the tied game). There other game in against the Dolphins.

It will be interesting to see how Kaepernick and Smith plays out for the rest of the season and beyond. I'm all for playing players in form so don't mind them sticking with Kaepernick.

[Derbyblue]

Looking at the playoff picture, the top 4 in the AFC are set. Texans look set for a bye with 1 of Pats, Broncos and Ravens to follow. Colts look set to get in by default, and the Steelers need Ben back next week to hold off a charging Bengals team. Yeah the AFC is really top heavy.

Bengals @ Steelers in Week 16 is quite probably going to be the deciding game. Both currently 6-5, Steelers have beaten Bengals once already, PIT have @Ravens, Chargers, @Cowboys, Bengals, Browns left, CIN have @Chargers, Cowboys, @Eagles, @Steelers, Ravens. Can see Steelers beating Chargers + Cowboys and probably Browns if they have Roethlisberger + Brown fit, with Big Ben pushing to play this week Ravens game will be interestin, and can see Bengals beating Chargers, Cowboys, Eagles but Steelers and Ravens will be hard games.

[Derbyblue]

Cowboys have placed LB Bruce Carter on IR.

Also Seahawks haven't currently lost their starting CBs, as they're both apparently appealing the decision they get to practice and play until the appeal process is over (which apparently took over a month when Haden appealed).

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss
NFL announces Patriots DE Jermaine Cunningham has been suspended 4 games for violating NFL policy on performance enhancing substances.

Guess that explains his increased productivity

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https://twitter.com/kevisaurous/status/272852215956373505/photo/1

Makes sense, he mustve had success selling them to Cunningham

[Derbyblue]

Arizona have put their centre, Lyle Sendlein on IR with a torn MCL. Life just got tougher for their QBs.

Also: "‏@RapSheet
Saw Steelers announced they activated G David DeCastro from IR/Designated for Return. What a great rule change. Was injured Week 3 preseason"

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

The season can't end quick enough for them now.

Pittsburgh have activated David DeCastro from IR which is good news for them

[Take it to the house]

In addition to what we were saying about PEDs and leniency etc
on the chatbox yesterday, this is what popular journalist Bill Simmons has just tweeted on the issue: "@BillSimmons: These "Adderall" excuses for NFL suspensions are such a joke. Goodell should launch Adderall Awareness Month so it's an even bigger lie."and On Adderall - isn't it interesting that (a) nobody gets suspended for PEDs anymore, and (b) NFL isn't allowed to tell us what drug it was?"
And this link is interesting: http://t.co/PfGizOwL
Glad to see some journalists say (finally!) what we're all thinking!

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Its a copout so they don't have to admit steroids. Saves the players from admitting they cheat and the NFL from admitting they have drug cheats

[cherriesfna]

with sheramn ad browner out time for wilson to show us why he is a great QB

EVERYDAY IM RUSSLIN'

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Dont quite know why I'm staying up for MNF but I am

[mikeygnfl]

Wow! Someone else is actually watching this game.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I guess I wanna see if it can get funnier/worse than Sanchez running into his own O-lineman's ass. And if it will, this is the game it will happen

[mikeygnfl]

The Panthers are looking more consistent than the Eagles. Foles doesn't really have anyone to throw to. Bryce Brown is looking good though. The Eagles do have some good young talent.

[mikeygnfl]

Just looking at the Super Bowl betting and you can still get 12/1 on the Giants. That looks too big with the offence and defence they have. I can't believe the Texans are favourites.

[Number-25]

Just looking at the Super Bowl betting and you can still get 12/1 on the Giants. That looks too big with the offence and defence they have. I can't believe the Texans are favourites.

I agree. Like I wrote in my NFC East mid-season review, the Giants know how to win when they absolutely have to. The bigger the game, the better they seem to be. They seem to have a habit of getting caught out in the games you would expect them to win easily. You only have to look at the two Superbowls they have won recently and even this season with their big wins against the 49ers and Packers. People were really starting to doubt them heading in to that Green Bay and they ended up just blowing them away. I picked the Giants to win the Superbowl in my review and while I'm not as certain about that now as I was then, I still won't be surprised if it's them we see lifting the Lombardi trophy come February. 12/1 is excellent value on them I'd say.

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Annnnnnnnnnnd the Eagles still don't care. Good thing I stopped caring too.

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At least Brown looked explosive. Could have a good 1-2 next year with a coach that actually runs the ball.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Just a random question for you all!

What is the theme music played at the start of Channel 4's coverage of the NFL?

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DeSean Jackson to IR

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Jason Babin cut

[BamBam]

Unexpected, I know he has been rubbish but so has the rest of the defence! Is he on a ridiculous contract or something?

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Meh, fairly. Hasn't done anything this season, and both Graham and Curry outplayed him.

Ross Tucker ‏@RossTuckerNFL
Babin already claimed termination pay in his career. It's a 1-time thing which means Eagles owe him nothing

That also explains it. Heads to waivers.

[CFCNick]

Andy Reid has said it's most likely Foles will start against Dallas

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Foles is starting the rest of the way.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Babin will end up in Tampa I reckon.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Eagles might as well do the same with Nmamdi as they have with Babin. Get rid of the underperformers on the money

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Babins only useful in the wide-9, Cincy and Detroit run it.

The Eagles dont have a good young CB thats worth giving gametime. And they could keep Nnamdi if he restructures.

[crazy_dave23]

Just a random question for you all!

What is the theme music played at the start of Channel 4's coverage of the NFL?

I always fast forward it (as I watch Monday morning) but the package is the same as it used to be so I assume it is still "Two Tribes" by Frankie Goes to Hollywood

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Thanks Dave

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Olly loves a bit of Frankie goes to Hollywood

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I like the tune, it's catchy

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Watched a bit of the game. Defensively beyond a joke. Curry made the most of his snaps though, probably the reason why Babins name appears on waivers.

Foles hesitant, needs to push the ball down the field a bit more. Had his struggles, but hard to get a read on him down his #1 WR and the slot guy, and with an OL that cannot pass protect at all.

Brown showed some nice moves, and enough to suggest he can part of a good duo with Shady. Unlike Shady, he doesn't dance, just bursts through the hole. Nice mix of speed and power. Pass protection and ball security obviously a concern, but those 2 things have been fixed many times in the NFL. Line looks alright when they run block, shame McCoy gets it like 10 times a game and invariably from shotgun.

[CFCNick]

The Giants have signed two running backs, Ryan Torain and the majestically named Kregg Lumpkin.

[cherriesfna]

Kregg Lumpkin couldnt even make the seahawks roster

[CFCNick]

Kregg Lumpkin couldnt even make the seahawks roster

Well, nobody in the league wanted Andre Brown or Victor Cruz did they? Now Vic has a ring

off topic, do you know Wayupna on xbox? He's a Seahawks and Mariners fan I met on a MLB 2k11 thread on the NFLUK forum.

[Derbyblue]

Suh fined $30,000 for his kick to Matt Schaub. Personally I really disagree with this fine but he is set to earn $10.25M this year what's $30,000 to him?

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Albert Breer ‏@AlbertBreer
Jason Babin was claimed on waivers. Waiting for word on what team he'll be awarded to.

Oooooooo #tense

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Jaguars claimed Jason Babin.

lol

[Derbyblue]

Jared Allen fined $21,000 for his season ending hit on Lance Louis, ends a guys season loses 3% of weekly paycheck. Do the NFL even give a Poopie about player safety?

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Former first round pick Rolando McClain has left Oakland citing he wants to play for a 'real' team apparently.

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