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Post by Guest Fri 25 Jan 2013, 6:52 pm

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Abiding by the current rules of eligibility which countries could you represent in Rugby?

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Post by Submachine Mon 28 Jan 2013, 4:27 pm

I was checking out the Irish census records from 1901 an 1911 online. I can trace back to my great, great grand father on my dads side and my great grandparents on my mothers side.
Not only are they all Irish born, every on of them was born in Dublin. So it’s rather fitting that the only (near) representative honours I had was for the Dublin metropolitan U16’s where I was invited for a second trial but did not quite make the cut.
I found some records regarding my mothers great grand parents which also suggest that they lived in Dublin although I can't be sure where they were born. I'd really like to know when her forebears arrived here as her maiden name is terribly English.

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Post by B91212 Mon 28 Jan 2013, 5:33 pm

England - birth / Dads side of family as far as can be traced
Wales - Mum (born in Hereford to Welsh parents)
Canada - Residency (5 years+) / impending citizenship

Could have been Sierra Leone based on residency but long since elapsed.

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Post by dummy_half Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:31 am

God I'm boring compared to most of you -

England eligible only - born in Yorkshire to Yorkshire-born parents and 3 of 4 Yorkshire-born grandparents. The 4th came all the way from north Lincolnshire...

Did live in Wales for nearly 2 years, but not enough for eligibility by residence.

My niece on the other hand is eligible for England, Germany and Switzerland.

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Post by Glas a du Tue 29 Jan 2013, 11:46 am

God I'm boring compared to most of you -

England eligible only - born in Yorkshire to Yorkshire-born parents and 3 of 4 Yorkshire-born grandparents. The 4th came all the way from north Lincolnshire...

Not at all, that propbably means you represent Denmark, Germany, France and Scotland at least (in your DNA that is)
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Post by Bathman_in_London Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:04 pm

dummy_half wrote:God I'm boring compared to most of you -

England eligible only - born in Yorkshire to Yorkshire-born parents and 3 of 4 Yorkshire-born grandparents. The 4th came all the way from north Lincolnshire...

Did live in Wales for nearly 2 years, but not enough for eligibility by residence.

My niece on the other hand is eligible for England, Germany and Switzerland.

I'm a bit shocked that people from outside gods own county were allowed to marry in to be honest. I bet they were shunned at family events!

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Post by Pal Joey Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:16 pm

Australia by birth
Mum - Kiwi - her family's side was from Ireland, Scotland & England
Dad - Hungarian - bits of Transylvania (Siebenburgen), Slovak, German

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Post by Mr Bounce Tue 29 Jan 2013, 12:37 pm

England only, although my maternal Grandmother was half Scottish. If you go back through my heritage you can find traces of Welsh, Irish & German too.

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Post by dummy_half Tue 29 Jan 2013, 2:11 pm

Bathman_in_London wrote:
dummy_half wrote:God I'm boring compared to most of you -

England eligible only - born in Yorkshire to Yorkshire-born parents and 3 of 4 Yorkshire-born grandparents. The 4th came all the way from north Lincolnshire...

Did live in Wales for nearly 2 years, but not enough for eligibility by residence.

My niece on the other hand is eligible for England, Germany and Switzerland.

I'm a bit shocked that people from outside gods own county were allowed to marry in to be honest. I bet they were shunned at family events!

Bathman

I think they could trace their ancestry back into Yorkshire the generation before, so weren't considered TOTALLy alien Wink

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Post by twoeightnine Tue 29 Jan 2013, 3:53 pm

Shows how complicated it can be.

I'm English by birth and most of my life.
Aussie as Grandmother born there but only been for 3 weeks so shows its a bit of a joke.
Wales - I lived there for three years. That was the period of Shane Howarth and when that came it out it made sense why my housemate who was selected for Welsh Students was told by someone in the WRU not to worry about where he came from as with a surname like Hughes they'd find something.

With the residency thing do you have to stay there afterwards or am I still eligible?

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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 4:19 pm

England by birth , parents are English as are grandparents but great granddad is from Cork?
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Post by Glas a du Tue 29 Jan 2013, 4:25 pm

Why the ?

Are you not sure where Cork is, if he was from there, or of he was in fact your great grandfather?
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Post by Driver Tue 29 Jan 2013, 4:29 pm

He was from Cork , the ? was i'm not sure if that makes me in any way Irish qualified .

Always been my 2nd team in the 6Ns behind England and i drink as much Guinness as the next man on Paddys day.
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Post by Glas a du Tue 29 Jan 2013, 4:38 pm

Ah I see Very Happy
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Post by HammerofThunor Tue 29 Jan 2013, 4:54 pm

Driver wrote:He was from Cork , the ? was i'm not sure if that makes me in any way Irish qualified .

Always been my 2nd team in the 6Ns behind England and i drink as much Guinness as the next man on Paddys day.

No it doesn't. Every single one of your great grandparents could be Irish and you wouldn't be Irish qualified. One of your grandparent were born there while parents were on holiday and no problem.

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Thu 31 Jan 2013, 2:02 pm

England by birth and parents

Germany by residency (lapsed)
Ireland by residency (lapsed)

Wales by PE teacher ( thumbsup )
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Post by dummy_half Thu 31 Jan 2013, 4:29 pm

Effervescing Elephant wrote:
Wales by PE teacher ( thumbsup )

Think you need to talk to the Saville enquiry police about that...

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Post by poddy89 Thu 31 Jan 2013, 7:57 pm

Scottish,

could also go for England Poland and Germany


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Post by Taffineastbourne Thu 31 Jan 2013, 8:40 pm

Welsh by birth
Welsh by parents/grandparents
English by residency(46 years.I must get a New Years Honour soon!)

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Post by Glas a du Thu 31 Jan 2013, 10:25 pm

dummy_half wrote:
Effervescing Elephant wrote:
Wales by PE teacher ( thumbsup )

Think you need to talk to the Saville enquiry police about that...

Quick, get your claim in before the estate runs out of money... Run
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Post by Cryptoyourisan Fri 01 Feb 2013, 11:51 am

England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

Cool

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Post by dummy_half Fri 01 Feb 2013, 1:09 pm

Cryptoyourisan wrote:England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales.

Cool

Something of a schizophrenic weekend for you then. Very Happy

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Post by Sam Wed 20 Feb 2013, 2:43 pm

England and USA!

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Post by Effervescing Elephant Wed 20 Feb 2013, 3:30 pm

Glas a du wrote:
dummy_half wrote:
Effervescing Elephant wrote:
Wales by PE teacher ( thumbsup )

Think you need to talk to the Saville enquiry police about that...

Quick, get your claim in before the estate runs out of money... Run

I still get the nightmares!!!
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Post by offload Wed 20 Feb 2013, 3:49 pm

Wales by birth and Ireland through grandparents
England by residency




Scotland - as I might actually get in the team............... Run
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Post by dgttaylor Thu 21 Feb 2013, 1:55 pm

Swaziland by birth (yes they do have a rugby side!)
South Africa (father)
Ireland (mother)
England (residency)

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Thu 21 Feb 2013, 2:23 pm

Wales and England. Born in Wales to a Welsh father (well, a Gog) and an English mother. There's some Scottish ancestry on my mother's side and my dad's great-grandfather came to Wales from Ireland to work building the railways.

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Post by Pal Joey Thu 21 Feb 2013, 3:04 pm

I could represent North Korea but I'm having visa problems at the moment.


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Post by dallym Fri 08 Mar 2013, 3:31 am

New Zealand by birth, and Australia due to my grandfather

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:12 am

Hence the DallyM moniker?
Interesting, I'm the reverse.

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Post by kiakahaaotearoa Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:40 am

You're dallym's grandfather LB?!

Small world. Very Happy

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Post by Pal Joey Fri 08 Mar 2013, 6:43 am

ha ha mate. Very Happy
No I meant NZ mother, grandparents. I'm born in Oz.

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Post by funnyExiledScot Fri 08 Mar 2013, 3:00 pm

England (residence) and Scotland (birth and heritage).

Better chance playing for England I think.

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Post by 21st Century Schizoid Man Fri 08 Mar 2013, 5:36 pm

Scotland - birth, father, Warriors Season ticket and currently reside
England - mother and residency (lapsed)
Wales - grandfather
Gibraltar - residency (lapsed)
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Post by Imperialbigdave Fri 08 Mar 2013, 10:39 pm

Scotland by Birth and a maternal lineage of Doric Gardeners right back to Angus McBigDave the 1st, chief shrubery planter for Robert the Bruce.

England by paternal west country grandfather, although hes blended into our ecosystem seamlessly.

If you go further back in his line theres some Arab/Persian in there somewhere.
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Post by dallym Sat 09 Mar 2013, 3:49 am

Linebreaker wrote:Hence the DallyM moniker?
Interesting, I'm the reverse.

I support the Roosters and like rugby too so DallyM is a good name.

Don't think Dally qualified for NZ, we just picked him because he was a great player

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Post by aitchw Mon 18 Mar 2013, 9:57 pm

England by every qualifying characteristic but every bit of a mongrel as most if you go far enough back. Great great grandfather from Ireland so a bit too much of a stretch.

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Post by ScarletSpiderman Mon 25 Mar 2013, 6:04 pm

England - birth, mother born there
Wales - father born here, residency
Ireland - Gran (fathers side) born there, Gran (mothers side) born there

I think my neice may qualify for all the home nations as she was born in Scotland.
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Post by NeilyBroon Mon 25 Mar 2013, 8:43 pm

Scotland through parents
England through residency
Wales potentially through paternal lineage

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Post by geoff998rugby Wed 27 Mar 2013, 1:33 pm

I could represent Ireland or England but I would only represent Ireland.

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Post by Metal Tiger Sun 14 Apr 2013, 11:13 pm

Grand parents all English but great grand parents include some French, Irish and an unknown random factor... my great grannie had a wartime romance with a commanwealth soldier who never made it passed the Somme. Family legend is he was a native american indian (canadian).
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