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Does Colour still matter ??
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I grew up in the early 80's where we had the limited but explosive Gerry Cooney making millions out of being a White Heavyweight. Obviously his Irish heritage helped him too.....Harry Arroyo used to get lot's of ink even though he had the poor-at-the-time IBF light strap....His successor the black Jimmy Paul was INVISIBLE!!
How far have we moved on since then???............Does Colour still matter?? Does a good white fighter have more marketing potential than a good black one??? If it does ... Is it the case that there are more quality BLACK fighters... so that is what makes a WHITE fighter have more appeal. Or is it more basic???
Does colour still matter??? I think unfortunately it does!!............
I grew up in the early 80's where we had the limited but explosive Gerry Cooney making millions out of being a White Heavyweight. Obviously his Irish heritage helped him too.....Harry Arroyo used to get lot's of ink even though he had the poor-at-the-time IBF light strap....His successor the black Jimmy Paul was INVISIBLE!!
How far have we moved on since then???............Does Colour still matter?? Does a good white fighter have more marketing potential than a good black one??? If it does ... Is it the case that there are more quality BLACK fighters... so that is what makes a WHITE fighter have more appeal. Or is it more basic???
Does colour still matter??? I think unfortunately it does!!............
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where you from Az?
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Yam, banana and chicken nuggets.
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Eat a lot of bananas but don't like yams or chicken nuggets..
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azania wrote:Yam, banana and chicken nuggets.
YBCN? Not YMCA?
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Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
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seanmichaels wrote:azania wrote:Yam, banana and chicken nuggets.
YBCN? Not YMCA?
I wouldn't be saying that too loudly in Jamaica.
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Bigotry is fine. It's humour. If you believe in it, paint a banner, go on a march, build a bomb, then it becomes a very different thing. Otherwise smile and realise there are plenty of fruits in the world and you're not one of them . Don't knock the germans / english (saxons as you call them) for having a sense of humour about taking the pi55 out of themselves. The term chip on your shoulder didn't amount from nothing.
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It appears that it's you guys who have a canyon on your shoulders when it comes to Rocky. But hey, it's all good. It's taken me this long to realise how it works here. Looks like further bannings are in line soon.
Salaam, shalom peace.
Salaam, shalom peace.
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azania wrote:Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
To be fair you made the most bigoted comment on this thread when you denied that white people were victims of racism.
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victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
To be fair you made the most bogoted comment on this thread when you denied that white people were victims of racism.
they aren't really? come on, you don't believe that?
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azania wrote:It appears that it's you guys who have a canyon on your shoulders when it comes to Rocky. But hey, it's all good. It's taken me this long to realise how it works here. Looks like further bannings are in line soon.
Salaam, shalom peace.
ps. my favourite actor is mr. sydney poitier
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I think some of the comments on this thread are a blatant attempt to get a bite from Az. Then, as usual, the majority of the 606 fraternity will blame our SA friend.
The last few pages of this thread have been utter BS, especially by LJ.
If he believes the stuff he's writing, then by his logic, his parents must be poor, unintelligent and not white.
The last few pages of this thread have been utter BS, especially by LJ.
If he believes the stuff he's writing, then by his logic, his parents must be poor, unintelligent and not white.
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Sounds like you're trying to get a bite as well..
Physician heal thyself...........
Physician heal thyself...........
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victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
To be fair you made the most bigoted comment on this thread when you denied that white people were victims of racism.
To be fair, you're an idiot. No offence mate.
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Glad you broke it to him gently.....
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azania wrote:victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
To be fair you made the most bigoted comment on this thread when you denied that white people were victims of racism.
To be fair, you're an idiot. No offence mate.
You can't take the moral high ground against racism when you yourself have been racist.
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I think the victorians had it right, children should be seen and not heard, take note Victor.
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TheMackemMawler wrote:I think some of the comments on this thread are a blatant attempt to get a bite from Az. Then, as usual, the majority of the 606 fraternity will blame our SA friend.
The last few pages of this thread have been utter BS, especially by LJ.
If he believes the stuff he's writing, then by his logic, his parents must be poor, unintelligent and not white.
Hive mentality. I actually feel insulted to be baited by crass nonsense. They should try harder.
I have to give big props to the mods for not locking the thread. Sensitive issue which should be discussed openly and free from censorship.
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victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
To be fair you made the most bigoted comment on this thread when you denied that white people were victims of racism.
To be fair, you're an idiot. No offence mate.
You can't take the moral high ground against racism when you yourself have been racist.
Go to sleep son. This is beyond you.
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I'd have thought breathing was beyond him Az but he seems to have survived somehow.
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I must admit that I'm glad It's Azania discussing these sensitive issues and not someone more controversial and outspoken...
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seanmichaels wrote:azania wrote:It appears that it's you guys who have a canyon on your shoulders when it comes to Rocky. But hey, it's all good. It's taken me this long to realise how it works here. Looks like further bannings are in line soon.
Salaam, shalom peace.
ps. my favourite actor is mr. sydney poitier
That actually made me laugh out loud.
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azania wrote:victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:victorgarco wrote:azania wrote:Isn't it great. Overt bigotry is fine. Say that the status of rocky grew because he's white, that's a no no. Some of you guys never cease to amaze me.
To be fair you made the most bigoted comment on this thread when you denied that white people were victims of racism.
To be fair, you're an idiot. No offence mate.
You can't take the moral high ground against racism when you yourself have been racist.
Go to sleep son. This is beyond you.
it's cleary beyond yourself.
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It's a massive failure to have a discussion about this sort of thing and come out looking bad when you're arguing with a guy who genuinely believes that the domination in the sprints by athletes with some West African heritage is mainly because of believing in themselves more and trying harder, rather than any inherent physical advantage.
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azania wrote:TheMackemMawler wrote:I think some of the comments on this thread are a blatant attempt to get a bite from Az. Then, as usual, the majority of the 606 fraternity will blame our SA friend.
The last few pages of this thread have been utter BS, especially by LJ.
If he believes the stuff he's writing, then by his logic, his parents must be poor, unintelligent and not white.
Hive mentality. I actually feel insulted to be baited by crass nonsense. They should try harder.
I have to give big props to the mods for not locking the thread. Sensitive issue which should be discussed openly and free from censorship.
This may surprise you, but I have better things to do than cater my posts to bait others. I write what I write because I believe it to be true. It'd be pretty sad to just look for a reaction like you do.
People take offence for the sake of it... Some of you need to relax a little bit. None of us know each other, lets not get annoyed...
And Mackem, as truss has kindly pointed out, the irony of that comment is obviously lost on you.
Salami peace.
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Try subtly changing the subject Victor.......and arguing a different case on the same thread.....
If you can't beat em....join em.........
If you can't beat em....join em.........
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Where's the boxing content?
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you like the office? love that line/lign? (too issed for spell check). seriously, when your father has skin cancer and he's been abroad 3 or 4 times in his life you develop a sense of humour. when he has half his jaw taken out and replaced with his shin it is amazing but crap. It add's a whole new dimension as to how you can take the urine. just had the 12 month scan and like alma it has spread to the lungs. hearing he's on drug trials that ruin your backside i joked that it was about time the eldest member of the family shat himself at the cricket club. he loved it. let's not be precious and call for bans. it is great to have an irate chat on heere and sometinies it makes the day.
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Strongback wrote:Where's the boxing content?
I think it's on your thread about the Irish economy.
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Sorry to hear that Seany. Certainly puts things into perspective.
How is alma doing?
How is alma doing?
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Where's the boxing content?
I think it's on your thread about the Irish economy.
Good to see you took note. I hope you know your place now.
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No word from Alma for a while, LJ. Just keeping my fingers crossed for him - and your old man too, SM.
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:Sorry to hear that Seany. Certainly puts things into perspective.
How is alma doing?
Had a few pm's but not heard from him since october and sincerely wish I had.
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Strongback wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Where's the boxing content?
I think it's on your thread about the Irish economy.
Good to see you took note. I hope you know your place now.
I like Ireland and hate London so we do agree on some things.
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seanmichaels wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Sorry to hear that Seany. Certainly puts things into perspective.
How is alma doing?
Had a few pm's but not heard from him since october and sincerely wish I had.
Sounds like the old fella has passed on.
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Where's the boxing content?
I think it's on your thread about the Irish economy.
Good to see you took note. I hope you know your place now.
I like Ireland and hate London so we do agree on some things.
missus is in dublin tonight hence the free reign on wine. apparently she was accosted by an irishman called Ian. great name that..... just hoping they all have dodgy teeth and a chip on their shoulder like Strongy!
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Irish......American called Trussman not Ian........
Not the first time I've accosted her either......
Not the first time I've accosted her either......
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seanmichaels wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Where's the boxing content?
I think it's on your thread about the Irish economy.
Good to see you took note. I hope you know your place now.
I like Ireland and hate London so we do agree on some things.
missus is in dublin tonight hence the free reign on wine. apparently she was accosted by an irishman called Ian. great name that..... just hoping they all have dodgy teeth and a chip on their shoulder like Strongy!
I thought you were a mans man, Sean? Surely you don't need the birds permission to get drunk?
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:seanmichaels wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Sorry to hear that Seany. Certainly puts things into perspective.
How is alma doing?
Had a few pm's but not heard from him since october and sincerely wish I had.
Sounds like the old fella has passed on.
aye. googled the drug trials old man was on and they were raving as the 1 year survival rate went from 6.3 months to 11 months. as a geordie are you gonna stop using the tanning beds? there are great orange paste make up products these days
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:seanmichaels wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:Strongback wrote:Where's the boxing content?
I think it's on your thread about the Irish economy.
Good to see you took note. I hope you know your place now.
I like Ireland and hate London so we do agree on some things.
missus is in dublin tonight hence the free reign on wine. apparently she was accosted by an irishman called Ian. great name that..... just hoping they all have dodgy teeth and a chip on their shoulder like Strongy!
I thought you were a mans man, Sean? Surely you don't need the birds permission to get drunk?
jjust need permission to not get caught being drunk. or be abit shifty and use the neighbours recycling bin
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I don't use them Sean, for that exact reason. Plus I'm dark and handsome naturally so don't really need to improve my appearance.
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I'm dark and handsome too, GSH, like eating out, young for my age..
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:I don't use them Sean, for that exact reason. Plus I'm dark and handsome naturally so don't really need to improve my appearance.
i used to be...... i'm massively receding now and thinking of 'regain'. does it work? Rowley? Dave667? Union.................?
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:I'm dark and handsome too, GSH, like eating out, young for my age..
Are you Michael Le Vell?
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seanmichaels wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:I don't use them Sean, for that exact reason. Plus I'm dark and handsome naturally so don't really need to improve my appearance.
i used to be...... i'm massively receding now and thinking of 'regain'. does it work? Rowley? Dave667? Union.................?
ps you can all call me Ian from now on. that's a bit gay isn't it?
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:azania wrote:TheMackemMawler wrote:I think some of the comments on this thread are a blatant attempt to get a bite from Az. Then, as usual, the majority of the 606 fraternity will blame our SA friend.
The last few pages of this thread have been utter BS, especially by LJ.
If he believes the stuff he's writing, then by his logic, his parents must be poor, unintelligent and not white.
Hive mentality. I actually feel insulted to be baited by crass nonsense. They should try harder.
I have to give big props to the mods for not locking the thread. Sensitive issue which should be discussed openly and free from censorship.
This may surprise you, but I have better things to do than cater my posts to bait others. I write what I write because I believe it to be true. It'd be pretty sad to just look for a reaction like you do.
People take offence for the sake of it... Some of you need to relax a little bit. None of us know each other, lets not get annoyed...
And Mackem, as truss has kindly pointed out, the irony of that comment is obviously lost on you.
Salami peace.
Animals behave in the same manner as you appear to. All action and free from thinking.
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You've lost me Sean......Is he someone I should know??
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TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You've lost me Sean......Is he someone I should know??
that's my real name you big gay american.
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My mistake..It's on the blue oyster register............
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seanmichaels wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You've lost me Sean......Is he someone I should know??
that's my real name you big gay american.
I'm still going to refer to you as Sean.
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