Does Colour still matter ??
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Does Colour still matter ??
First topic message reminder :
I grew up in the early 80's where we had the limited but explosive Gerry Cooney making millions out of being a White Heavyweight. Obviously his Irish heritage helped him too.....Harry Arroyo used to get lot's of ink even though he had the poor-at-the-time IBF light strap....His successor the black Jimmy Paul was INVISIBLE!!
How far have we moved on since then???............Does Colour still matter?? Does a good white fighter have more marketing potential than a good black one??? If it does ... Is it the case that there are more quality BLACK fighters... so that is what makes a WHITE fighter have more appeal. Or is it more basic???
Does colour still matter??? I think unfortunately it does!!............
I grew up in the early 80's where we had the limited but explosive Gerry Cooney making millions out of being a White Heavyweight. Obviously his Irish heritage helped him too.....Harry Arroyo used to get lot's of ink even though he had the poor-at-the-time IBF light strap....His successor the black Jimmy Paul was INVISIBLE!!
How far have we moved on since then???............Does Colour still matter?? Does a good white fighter have more marketing potential than a good black one??? If it does ... Is it the case that there are more quality BLACK fighters... so that is what makes a WHITE fighter have more appeal. Or is it more basic???
Does colour still matter??? I think unfortunately it does!!............
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40529
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:seanmichaels wrote:TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You've lost me Sean......Is he someone I should know??
that's my real name you big gay american.
I'm still going to refer to you as Sean.
sean michaels mekkes me feel better about myself.. Goodnight everyone.
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Good night Sean...Good night John boy.....
TRUSSMAN66- Posts : 40529
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azania wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:azania wrote:TheMackemMawler wrote:I think some of the comments on this thread are a blatant attempt to get a bite from Az. Then, as usual, the majority of the 606 fraternity will blame our SA friend.
The last few pages of this thread have been utter BS, especially by LJ.
If he believes the stuff he's writing, then by his logic, his parents must be poor, unintelligent and not white.
Hive mentality. I actually feel insulted to be baited by crass nonsense. They should try harder.
I have to give big props to the mods for not locking the thread. Sensitive issue which should be discussed openly and free from censorship.
This may surprise you, but I have better things to do than cater my posts to bait others. I write what I write because I believe it to be true. It'd be pretty sad to just look for a reaction like you do.
People take offence for the sake of it... Some of you need to relax a little bit. None of us know each other, lets not get annoyed...
And Mackem, as truss has kindly pointed out, the irony of that comment is obviously lost on you.
Salami peace.
Animals behave in the same manner as you appear to. All action and free from thinking.
Salami
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djlovesyou wrote:It's a massive failure to have a discussion about this sort of thing and come out looking bad when you're arguing with a guy who genuinely believes that the domination in the sprints by athletes with some West African heritage is mainly because of believing in themselves more and trying harder, rather than any inherent physical advantage.
Good god. What an over simplification. But tell me why you point blank refused a question even though asked numerous times? Why don't Brazilians, Cubans, Dominicans etc run as fast as English speaking caribbeans or Americans?
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Don't worry Sean you're joke wasn't lost on everyone. Should you not be keeping a low profile?
The Boss- Posts : 1267
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Lumbering_Jack wrote:white men are generally the best candidate, it's a punishment brought on by past success.
Lumbering_Jack wrote:white men are more educated and possess more skills than any other group.
Lumbering_Jack wrote:Wealthy people are generally intelligent.
Lumbering_Jack wrote: White people have always been innovators and look to make life easier
Lumbering_Jack wrote: Everything I have said can be backed up with facts.
Over to you......
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Got nothing more to add to this debate apart from saying in my long membership of boxing forums and intermittent perusal of 606, this lad Victor is shaping up as the truly special kid!!!!
azumah HOF- Posts : 243
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TheMackemMawler wrote:Lumbering_Jack wrote:white men are generally the best candidate, it's a punishment brought on by past success.Lumbering_Jack wrote:white men are more educated and possess more skills than any other group.Lumbering_Jack wrote:Wealthy people are generally intelligent.Lumbering_Jack wrote: White people have always been innovators and look to make life easierLumbering_Jack wrote: Everything I have said can be backed up with facts.
Over to you......
The sad part is that in his circle of knuckle dragging friends, that's pretty liberal. A neanderthal us a step up the evolutionary ladder.
azania- Posts : 19471
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The Michael Johnson documentary went some way to explaining why those descended from western africa are faster than anyone else on the planet.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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In terms of population Brazil has the second largest black population next to Nigeria. Not a single sub 10 runner. Most come from the English speaking world where there is a history of sprinting. And culture of it.
Also when bannister broke sub 4 the prevailing thought waz that blacks lacked the stamina to do the same. How wrong was thaf?
Also when bannister broke sub 4 the prevailing thought waz that blacks lacked the stamina to do the same. How wrong was thaf?
azania- Posts : 19471
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There aren't any Nigerian or Brazilian Ping-Pong World champions either.
TheMackemMawler- Posts : 2606
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Several brazilian F1 world champions though. Someone check their DNA for the driving gene.
azania- Posts : 19471
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Sprinting is a very localised event just like long distance running, ethiopians as a great country aren't great there just so happens to be one very small village that produces great long distance runners. Believe it or not sprinting prowess goes back to the S word nobody likes to talk about.
Imperial Ghosty- Posts : 10156
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It seems the berber north Africans and some Arab states will dispute that.
More slaves went to Brazil than usa. I have no problem discussing anything. You know that. So please don't put me in the category of those who will avoid or silence controversial issues.
More slaves went to Brazil than usa. I have no problem discussing anything. You know that. So please don't put me in the category of those who will avoid or silence controversial issues.
azania- Posts : 19471
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It's a social and genetic thing Az, Arthur Friedenreich paved the way for black brazillians to play football and it is the countries first sporting love, they have very little interest in anything else. So they may have the same capacity as the americans and jamaicans to run fast they just don't want to.
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