2012/13 Premier League discussion thread part 4

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We are now entering the business end of the season!

Now Utd more or less have the title sewn up it's all about the relegation scrap and the race for the Champions League spots.

Game on.

[GSC]

at least one of match officials saw the coming together, though not full extent of the challenge.

What kind of backwards ass logic is this?

[Nakatomi Plaza]

at least one of match officials saw the coming together, though not full extent of the challenge.

What kind of backwards ass logic is this?

The annoying thing is the FA can make an exception in extreme circumstances. The Ben Thatcher/Pedro Mendes incident was originally punished with a yellow card, but the FA eventually banned him for eight games.

[GSC]

I don't get how the linesman not seeing the whole incident excuses McManaman. Agree with the Newcastle statement, rules clearly not fit for purpose

[hampo17]

at least one of match officials saw the coming together, though not full extent of the challenge.

What kind of backwards ass logic is this?

The annoying thing is the FA can make an exception in extreme circumstances. The Ben Thatcher/Pedro Mendes incident was originally punished with a yellow card, but the FA eventually banned him for eight games.

The Ben Thatcher incident was nothing more than assault though. This wasn't anywhere near as bad as that.

This isn't the first time this rule has been used stupidley this season, Howard Webb said he saw a Stoke player stamp on Garcia for City. However from the angle he was at there was no way he could have seen that both feet left the ground or seen the force of the stamp.

[Lumbering_Jack]

How can the FA rescind red cards if the referee has seen the initial incident.

Scandless decision. This was nothing more than assualt, despite what the apologists will tell you.

[hampo17]

LJ if this was the other way round your tune would be different. He actually wins the ball and makes contact on the follow through, hardly knocking someone through the advertising boards was it.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Not fit for purpose is certainly right. Puts the referees in an awful position too, I'm sure they would much rather have the FA take charge over it, rather than making them look fools. I bet you even McManaman would accept a three game ban, the only man who wouldnt is the off his rocker Whelan.

I'm no apologist mind, I see the intent for the ball, you can be a sensationalist if you prefer though.

[Crimey]

It's a ridiculous decision, even those of us that feel that it was an accident would want to see a three game ban.

I'm not sure how the FA can justify the decision, one official saw it, but not the full extent, therefore FA are perfectly justified in applying retrospective action.

They say they are not interested in "re-reffing" games, but that's exactly what they do. For example, rescinding red cars, applying retrospective bans in the past, dealing with racism incidents. It was quite clear that none of the officials really saw the incident and a three game ban should have been given.

The FA needs to make it clear what their position is, because they do so many things that contradict each other.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

They've set a dangerous precident now by not punishing it.

Anybody can now appeal citing that this guy got away with it

[Lumbering_Jack]

Hampo, stop talking gash. My opinion would be no different it a Mackem was on the receiving end. I am perfectly capable of being objective.

And the fact he won the ball is totally irrelevant. He done so projecting himself in like a missile.

[compelling and rich]

stupid rule, but its hardly the first time this has been the case. simply the rule needs to change. not sure why the refs just didn't claim they saw it fully would protect themselves then when they are clearly proven wrong. bit like wenger does every time his players gets sent off

[Lumbering_Jack]

So what are exceptional circumstances?

Is trying to break someone's leg not exceptional? Does it have to be head contact?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

They'd have to believe he was going in to do harm, and as you have found not everyone believes that to be the case. I think that would count as exceptional. Its still a load of crud, they have no backbone the FA, none at all.

[Lumbering_Jack]

I genuinely don't see how anyone could think in making a challenge like that, that it wouldn't do serious harm.

Agree on the FA. They are utterly spineless.

[azania]

How anyone can defend that tackle is beyond me. It was an assault.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Michael Bailey ‏@michaeljbailey
One bit for tomorrow's papers is a throwaway line: Massadio Haidara "it is understood is yet to receive an apology". Sort it out Wigan.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Michael Bailey ‏@michaeljbailey
One bit for tomorrow's papers is a throwaway line: Massadio Haidara "it is understood is yet to receive an apology". Sort it out Wigan.

Come on Oliver.........when a story in the paper starts with "It is understood....." that means its a rumour!

[Lumbering_Jack]

Why would Wigan apologise when they think it is a fair tackle.

I hope they are relegated.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Think you need to get over this now LJ.

[hampo17]

Something tells me LJ will bring this up after every game, the same way he did about Suarez.

[Lumbering_Jack]

The same Suarez who I haven't mentioned for a while.

Stop being a WUM. You're meant to be a mod.

[hampo17]

The same Suarez who I haven't mentioned for a while.

Stop being a WUM. You're meant to be a mod.

I used past tence Jack. I'm aware you haven't mentioned him for a while however you have previously gone through a phase where you mentioned him after every game.

[Soldier_Of_Fortune]

Are V2 editors mods?

[hampo17]

Just saw this posted on twitter. Not sure why people bother to do this kind of thing when they surely know the police will take action.

http://metro.co.uk/2013/03/20/teenager-arrested-over-death-threat-tweet-to-mcmanaman-3551296/

[westisbest]

Twitter, oh dear.

[Ent]

I see Haidara isn't seriously injured, that's terrific.

[NickisBHAFC]

Seems Sir Gus Poyet is staying at Brighton.

Wonder who for the Reading post then?

Personally, i think Adkins or Di Canio, has to be. Or maybe give someone like Curbishley or Ray Wilkins interm manager until the end of the season. Then look for a manager to take them up next season.

[GSC]

Got on Adkins half an hour ago at 7/2. Hes now odds on everywhere. #lovetwitter

[GSC]

Curbishley

I'm pretty sure hes semi retired at this point.

[NickisBHAFC]

Adkins is a superb manager, Reading would be lucky to have him.

[The Special Juan]

West Ham fans apart (and maybe they're against it?), the decision to give them the OS is nothing short of abhorrent. I don't have time to write something ranty just now but I will later.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I look forward to this (not that I'm either for or against the move).

Please do your best to ignore anything Barry Hearn says. The man is a tool using the media as a PR exercise for his club and for his own standing.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Steven Fletcher stretchered off for Scotland. Looks bad.

Sunderland better hope Danny Graham finds his shooting boots soon

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Bale also taken off at half time with an upper body injury.

Spurs fans cry everywhere

[Ent]

Snodgrass is quite the diver.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Snodgrass is quite the diver.

Indeed

[Ent]

Snodgrass is quite the diver.

Indeed

Good player mind, frustrating - like Ashley young.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Snodgrass is quite the diver.

Indeed

Good player mind, frustrating - like Ashley young.

Knows how to buy a free kick off a referee. Nowadays players know if they feel something and go down, more often than not they'll get a free kick. Sad but true.

He has been very good for us this season. Surprised me for sure. Knows how to gain a yard for a shot/cross

[Ent]

Well jinxed lol, silly boy.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Norwich City FC ‏@NorwichCityFC 2m
TRANSFER NEWS: We hope to be bringing you some exciting news in the next 15 minutes! #otbc #ncfc #yellowarmy

[GSC]

Its Paddy Kenny

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Someone from Leeds I should imagine

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Norwich City FC ‏@NorwichCityFC
City have agreed to sign striker Ricky Van Wolfswinkel from Sporting Lisbon on a 4-year deal from July 1, subject to paperwork #ncfc

Ooo la la

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I have a gut feeling that this weekend Sunderland are gonna get something out of Utd.

I have method behind the madness! Fletcher is out (seemingly), which on the face of it, is a huge blow for the Mackems. However I think it could be a blessing in disguise, as Fletcher/Graham up top has failed miserably. With Fletcher out, you'd figure he'd go Graham up top, with Sessegnon in behind, which I think, makes them a much better unit than with the 4-4-2

[compelling and rich]

i wouldn't be surprised olly, our attention should firmly be on monday. with a 2nd string out against sunderland. saying that though a second string should still be able to get a draw at least against that current sunderland team

[Liam]

Well i'd go:

De Gea

Rafael
Vidic
Evans
Evra

Anderson
Scholes
Nani
Valencia

Kagawa
Hernandez

Then vs Chelsea:

De Gea

Rafael
Ferdinand
Jones
Evra

Carrick
Cleverly
Nani
Kagawa

Rooney
RVP

[compelling and rich]

i dont see kagawa playing both games certainly not if he's been away with japan. young should feature in one game at least. evans for me is probably first choice these days so would probably go vidic and jones cb for sunderland with smalling at rb, then rio, evans and rafael against chelsea. also see wellbeck playing in at least one game, current form he's got a good chance for chelsea, was one of our best players in both madrid games. easily outshone rooney and rvp.

[The Special Juan]

So Suarez is up to his usual tricks...

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

It's more of a tiny slap than a "punch" tbh...

[Lumbering_Jack]

He's a bit of a runt is Suarez. Certainly has a bit of a nasty streak in him with the stamps earlier this year.

You'd have to wonder if he'd do the same if Martin Keown was marking him.

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