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GSC wrote:Cheers

RVP seems out of touch, 1 in 8 now isn't it? Had some good chances last night

RVP was United's worst player last night, he looked like Torres out there

Welbeck should've gone Swansea on loan. Game time in a club that plays football

Morning guys.

Today feels likes the morning after a family members death. Im boycotting UEFA from now on.

Condolences Viva
Must be similar to the feeling I had when Gerrard cracked a 35 yarder in in the FA Cup Final in 2006

It'd be easier to take if Madrid were the better team before the red card, United looked comfortable and I think would have won 1-0.

Credit to Madrid it's not easy scoring 2 goals even with an extra man. I'm proud of the United performance they showed showed great character and shows we can compete with Europe's elite.

Eh Madrid gave th impression they had another gear they couldn't quite find. Red card seemed to spark them, but even with 11 United wouldn't have live with that onslaught. Then Jose called off the dogs

I disagree GSC, yes Madrid had a couple more gears but it was United that didn't allow them to hit that level not because they were taking it easy. Ronaldo had a few chances to score good goal keeping and great defending from Vidic stopped them.

Obviously Madrid would put some pressure on near the end but I feel United would have dealt with it.

Sorry but I don't buy into this Ronaldo showing respect rubbish, he put his hands up just for the attention.

Ronaldo did the same thing at Sporting. He doesn't celebrate. Decent bloke Ronaldo.

Modric sub change the game for me, he gave Madrid impetus. Well never know how he would've played with 11 tho so it's hypothetical. Why Rooney got only 20 mins is beyond me

Think a Bayern Juve final might be on the cards.

Former Manchester United player Paddy Crerard has hit back at Roy Keane for agreeing with Nani's red card.

He told BBC Ulster: "Roy Keane was in a minority of one. Not one person said it was a red card except Roy. Roy Keane is the one person that has come out and categorically stated that he should have been sent off.

"Nobody else agrees with him so why are we talking about Roy Keane? Why do we not talk about the 99.9% of people who said it wasn't a sending off.

"Why are we talking about Roy Keane - because he played for Manchester United. Well, let me tell you something, I played with Manchester United, I played in a European Cup final, Roy didn't. The referee was wrong."

Sounds like Paddy Crerand is mad nobody gives a toss about Paddy Crerand

Nothing wrong with showing some respect to former clubs. I was surprised to hear United fans boo Ronaldo after all he had done for the club before he left.

Hell, Tevez played a single season at West Ham and he gets a rapturous reception any time he returns. People forget heroes too readily. Carlos

Kris Commons can **** off

Nigel Clough has been a naughty naughty boy since he took the Derby job too

He does that for the cameras, he didn't need to put his hands up pretending that he cared. Just walk away normally but no this is Ronaldo he needs the attention.

Rooney was dreadful in the first leg and hardly performs in the big European games. I think Sir Alex made the right choices.

But really Ronaldo was the driving force behind United pegging back Chelsea and showed a ton of class towards united. Don't get booing him

How do you know he doesn't care?

He always talks in glowing terms about United, and about Ferguson. He doesn't need the attention, he already has it, he just scored a goal. He was showing a bit of respect and restraint to a club that should show him the same.

Paddy is a legend, so biased I love him. Keane is a bitter man, since he left United he has been slagging them off.

Sodhat, Ronaldo is loved at United fans still sing his song but last night he came as the enemy and to hurt us which he did. Beckham a far better playet and 10000 times more of a United legend then ronaldo got booed when he came with Milan. Even if my brother was an ex United player and came back I'd be booing him and swearing at his mum. The club comes before anyone

I won't lie Viva that's what is most sad about most football supporters.

I come from a different angle, Viva. I think people that achieve something at the club and respected it should come back and be both applauded and respected. At the very least not booed.

I understand booing of players that have disrespected the club or left acrimoniously - that's fine.

I would probably only boo a handful of West Ham players past. Defoe perhaps. The fact people booed Scott Parker the other night - three time Hammer of the Year - made me sick.

Ronaldo Ronaldo didn't need to raise his hands in an apologetic way, yes we know you still have affection to United but walk away normally didn't have to tell us his sorry.

I don't see why fans have to applaud a former player when he comes to ex team. If Ronaldo cared so much he wouldn't score

Don't have to applaud but booing just reinforces this sad tribal nature football takes too far

Personally I'm happy Dawson went on to be a great player for Spurs.

I respect and thank Ronaldo for what he did a great player one of the best but last night he was against us, a Madrid player out to kill us. He got booed as a rival not because we hate him.

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Afternoon all.

Think Ronaldo did get the respect pre-match, they all applauded and he got a special return from the announcer. During the game he was booed like every other Madrid player, which is understandable. He put his hands up to show he wasn't celebrating. I thought it was classy from both sides.

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Manager of the month: GSC - not only is he 21 today, but he's put together an excellent first team at Spanish Bank

Nathan Redmond - £3m
Aleksey Berezutski - £4.5m

Anyone want to beat either of them

Also open to offers

Afternoon all.

I'm still angry Viva. Had a flick thru some news & yep, more talk about the Ref & post match comments from Jose than the football & how tactically spot on Man United were until the sending off.
Fair play to Modric, cracking strike for the goal & fair play to Lopez, pulled some great saves off. Other than that I don't give Madrid credit as rightly so the ref deserves it.

Anyone see Alonso's passing stats before the sending off which forced tactical changes and Danny Welbeck out to the left???
16 passes with a 69% completion.

Man United had the under locks!

I thought Ryan Giggs was immense last night. And that cross with the outside of his left boot, right onto the foot of RVP, who spazzed his volley...absolute pure quality.

Welbeck was shocking for me. He's meant to threaten the goal, not wrap it in cotton wool. The amount of times he was through and a defender caught him was amazing. He really needs to get his act together.

Lopez made some good saves too.

United deserved to go through, but it all hangs on Nani's idiocy, not the referee. He did his job, Nani didn't do his.

Tbf to the ref United got away better then they could of with his 2 inept decisions

Red Card > Red Card and a Penalty (Rafael)

Azzy, Giggs played well last night. didn't look 39 at all!
Welbeck was quality last night, worked hard for the team, kept Alonso quiet & was still getting forward.
You would be the one to say its Nanis fault, your part of that small minority that do. Ref ruined what should of been a headline making game to have them for himself.
These things happen in football, we got a raw deal last night and that's just how it goes sometimes. Its a shame it happened in what should of been the biggest game of the season in world football.

Seriously, Fergie to quit at the end of this season. I called it first.

Madrids disallowed goal. That's a lucky break.
Sending a player off for having his eyes on the ball & attempting to win it isn't a lucky break, that was a clear game changer.

Anyone seen the refs twitter account, 38 folloing & the only non Turkish football teams are Barca & Real laugh out loud.
He got some abuse, Viva even got in on the action lolol

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Sending a player off for having his eyes on the ball & attempting to win it isn't a lucky break, that was a clear game changer.

You missed out the word "recklessly", I would have also accepted "dangerously".

Marky wrote:

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:Sending a player off for having his eyes on the ball & attempting to win it isn't a lucky break, that was a clear game changer.

You missed out the word "recklessly", I would have also accepted "dangerously".

How about stupidly?

I don't think it was stupid, more naïve. He wasn't aware of Arbeloa when he should have been.

Anyway, GSC. Birthday or not, care to give me some "YES"'s for my Realistic League foreign transfer bids please?

it wasn't reckless at all or stupid. we see attempts like that all the time and very very rarely they result in a red card

It is irrelevant that he was watching the ball and didn't mean to catch Arbeloa.

The fact he had his foot high, stud showing and did catch Arbeloa means it was a reckless.

Nani should take more blame for the red than the ref IMO. A bit of common sense should have prevailed, but I don't think the ref can take the blame for the match ending the way it did

Zinedine_Ze_Zebra wrote:You would be the one to say its Nanis fault, your part of that small minority that do. Ref ruined what should of been a headline making game to have them for himself.

The ref saw a player make a dangerous tackle, potentially career threatening, at a very fast pace. What was he meant to do? If it was a Madrid player you'd have been baying for his blood.

The ref made the right call on that decision - he did not however give Madrid the blatant penalty and Rafael the subsequent red card. So count your blessings he missed that one, else it'd have been 6-1 not 2-1 last night.

At the end of the day, the referee gets one look at it - and when I saw it on TV I went 'ooooooooouuuuuuuuuuuccccccccchhhhhhhhhhh f-ing hell, is he alright, what a f-ing stupid tackle, he should get sent off'. I suspect the referee saw it the same way.

I'm no Utd sympathiser, they've had there fair share of decisions down the years, but if Nani's tackle was deemed reckless, then so was Lopez's punch on Vidic first half.

Exactly the same situation. Player going for the ball, eyes for it only, and been beaten to it by the opposition and has dangeorusly caught them.

If one is a red, so is the other

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I'm leaving this one.

I disagree Olly - Lopez barely touched Vidic, Vidic had a chance to get out of the way and didn't, and keepers are a protected species these days.

In Nani's case, he's hurtling in at 10,000mph with his leg straight at chest height, and studs out. If he misses that ball, he's got a 50/50 chance of seeing his leg come straight out the other side of the guy's chest.

It's just a case of a dreadful rush of blood to the head, from a guy that is just not in United's class. They've had plenty of chances over the years to get rid of him, and it's just cost them badly.

And let us repeat, that the referee missed Rafael's blatant handball, with the red card and penalty that would go with that. If the referee has altered the course of the game, it was actually in United's favour.

potentially career threatening

what a great joke Azzy.
The ref gets one look but had how long to go talk to his assistant and judge the situation.

If it was a Madrid player you'd have been baying for his blood.

lolol Ramos was an angel all night wasn't he!
I expect nothing less from you Azzy so its ok.

Afro, considering he jumped up to win the ball his foot wasn't that high. You see player control the ball in the air all the time at that height.
Are we now saying don't attempt overhead kicks as you foot will be high and might catch someone who is also trying to win the ball? Nani has no blame to take, he trying to bring the ball down. What he supposed to do? Have a look over his shoulder, see Arbloa and say "hey, take it, you have the ball I wont try bring it under control to start a counter attack for my team, take I insist you carry on attacking us" ???
Its a contact sport for gods sake. Nani has to go for the ball.

Fact is that was a clear turning point in a match where Man United were in full control. You can talk about your what if's all you like but that's all they are, whats if's.

Zebs I AM saying that. Did you not see Crouch smash that guy full in the face at the weekend? I can do without players getting needlessly injured ta.

Rafael's handball should have cost you the game, remember that.

Azzy Mahmood wrote:I disagree Olly - Lopez barely touched Vidic, Vidic had a chance to get out of the way and didn't, and keepers are a protected species these days.

In Nani's case, he's hurtling in at 10,000mph with his leg straight at chest height, and studs out. If he misses that ball, he's got a 50/50 chance of seeing his leg come straight out the other side of the guy's chest.

It's just a case of a dreadful rush of blood to the head, from a guy that is just not in United's class. They've had plenty of chances over the years to get rid of him, and it's just cost them badly.

And let us repeat, that the referee missed Rafael's blatant handball, with the red card and penalty that would go with that. If the referee has altered the course of the game, it was actually in United's favour.

And the Higuain goal as well, nothing up with that

Just saying how ridiculous the red card is. Where do you stop with dangerous play? A goalie punching somebody in the head accidently is gonna cause more damage than a player scraping somebody's chest trying to bring the ball down.

If a player passes somebody the ball really hard and it hits them in the ribs and breaks there ribs could that not be construed as dangerous and reckless play? By the laws it is, but the laws are bull crap and common sense needs to prevail which it didn't last night

Lopez barely touched Vidic, Vidic had a chance to get out of the way and didn't

ahhhhhh hahahahha this gets funnier and funnier.
Vida couldn't of got out the way, go watch a replay as you clearly need to or go Specsavers!
Nani hurling at 10,000mph yet Lopez was just strolling over to try punch the ball.
you repeat all you want, the ref missed this & the what if this blar blar.
The simple fact is there is a difference between missing something to act about it & seeing something & acting harsh about it.

If the referee has altered the course of the game, it was actually in United's favour.

You simple are a joke.

Azzy Mahmood wrote:Zebs I AM saying that. Did you not see Crouch smash that guy full in the face at the weekend? I can do without players getting needlessly injured ta.

Rafael's handball should have cost you the game, remember that.

That should have been a red. You frankly can't go for an overhead kick in a crowded penalty box. Especially when you're 6ft 7. Taylor got a serious concussion from that.