Ongoing NFL discussion thread part 2

by GSC Thu Mar 07, 2013 5:02 pm

First topic message reminder :

Since threads seem to go to 1000 posts

Free Agency:
Mike Wallace, Daniel Ellerbe to Miami
Martellus Bennett to Chicago
Paul Kruger to Cleveland
Greg Toler + 3 head to Colts
Andy Levitre to Tennessee

by NYJ Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:33 pm

2 years, $8 million for Matt Moore.

Doing nothing for $4m a year. Greatest job in the world.

by **Derbyblue** Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:53 pm

NYJ wrote:2 years, $8 million for Matt Moore.

Doing nothing for $4m a year. Greatest job in the world.

Good contract for him and there wasn't really anywhere he would be certain to be starting. Dolphins apparently have roughly $21million left to spend (excluding $6.3 for rookies).

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:43 pm

Dolphins gonna get Mike Wallace aren't they?

by **Derbyblue** Fri Mar 08, 2013 4:54 pm

Panthers release CB Chris gamble to get under the cap limit.

Olly read rumours they were going to offer a deal like the one Bowe got,.

by BamBam Fri Mar 08, 2013 5:29 pm

Adrian Wilson has apparently been cut by the Cards.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:01 pm

One under the radar move that I liked was Tennesse picking up George Wilson who was released by Buffalo. (think it is George haha!)

Good safety

by **Derbyblue** Fri Mar 08, 2013 7:05 pm

@ShawnZobel_DHQ
I was told this afternoon that the Vikings have an offer of a 2nd RD pick on the table from a team for Percy Harvin. They want a 1st Rounder

Apparently he threatened to walk out after Hernandez had gotten his extension with the Patriots.

by GSC Fri Mar 08, 2013 8:14 pm

Eagles being linked to Goldson. Sounds like an agent drumming up interest to me.

by Colan (niner) Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:36 pm

Goldson should either stay or go to another contender, hate seeing good players take a step down, Hopefully he can get the deal he deserves

by GSC Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:45 pm

Goldsons welcome to a contender. Hes not worth close to what hes asking

by GSC Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:53 pm

Since Richard Sherman likes to discuss his 8 INTs, 6 came against the Cardinals, Rams and Jets

The QBs picked off by Sherman in his career

Caleb Hanie
Rex Grossman
John Skelton
Andy Dalton
Sam Bradford
Mark Sanchez
Tom Brady
Colin Kaepernick

by cherriesfna Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:56 pm

GSC wrote:Since Richard Sherman likes to discuss his 8 INTs, 6 came against the Cardinals, Rams and Jets

The QBs picked off by Sherman in his career

Caleb Hanie
Rex Grossman
John Skelton
Andy Dalton
Sam Bradford
Mark Sanchez
Tom Brady
Colin Kaepernick

What about the receivers he sht down and QBs that didn't throw his way??

by GSC Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:58 pm

According to Sherman, that argument doesnt stand for Revis.

by mikeygnfl Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:50 am

Steelers could be about to cut James Harrison.

The Raiders will most likely cut Carson Palmer with the Cardinals waiting in the wings to pick him up.

Miami are keen on signing Erin Winston and letting Jake Long go.

The Vikings have been reported as having had a offer for Percy Harvin for a 2nd round pick.

The Rams and Patriots have been linked with Victor Cruz who would 'cost' a 1st round pick. The Rams have two. Miami are another team who could look at Cruz.

by **Pr4wn** Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:46 am

Dunta Robinson had apparently agreed terms with Kansas City, according to Adam Schefter.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:16 am

Patriots also "interested" in Mike Wallace.

Seems as if we're gonna splash on a WR and draft defence

by CFCNick Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:45 am

mikeygnfl wrote:
Steelers could be about to cut James Harrison.
The Raiders will most likely cut Carson Palmer with the Cardinals waiting in the wings to pick him up.
Miami are keen on signing Erin Winston and letting Jake Long go.
The Vikings have been reported as having had a offer for Percy Harvin for a 2nd round pick.
The Rams and Patriots have been linked with Victor Cruz who would 'cost' a 1st round pick. The Rams have two. Miami are another team who could look at Cruz.

It'd take a lot more than that. We don't have enough depth to just give up our 2nd best WR for one pick. After Nicks and Cruz we've got Randle who's decent but then the drop off is quite big. Barden, Hixon, Jernigan.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:17 am

Cruz is a restricted free agent, his compensation would be a first if the Giants don't match the contract he signs elsewhere

by Colan (niner) Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:50 am

Joe Haden has rightfully claimed that he is 2nd best CB in NFL, thought that for a while #realtalk

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 1:29 pm

mikeygnfl wrote:
Steelers could be about to cut James Harrison.
The Raiders will most likely cut Carson Palmer with the Cardinals waiting in the wings to pick him up.
Miami are keen on signing Erin Winston and letting Jake Long go.
The Vikings have been reported as having had a offer for Percy Harvin for a 2nd round pick.
The Rams and Patriots have been linked with Victor Cruz who would 'cost' a 1st round pick. The Rams have two. Miami are another team who could look at Cruz.

Can't see it being Miami, he'll probably cost close to the same as Wallace but also the 12th pick in the draft for a team with a few holes that seems too steep to me.

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 2:33 pm

Baltimore are looking to get Anquan Boldin to reduce his salary or be cut, currently he would count $7.531million against the cap.

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:36 pm

@Ravensinsider
Most cap space as of Friday: 1. Browns $47.2 million; 2. Bengals $41.7 M; 3. Colts $39.8 M; 4. Dolphins $37.1 M; 5. Eagles $32.4 M

@AlbertBreer
Falcons came to terms with S William Moore on a 5-year deal, using some of the cap flexibility they created last week.

@alexmarvez
The #Bills have re-signed CB/returner Leodis McKelvin to a four-year, $20M contract.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:37 pm

Eagles will clear 11m when Nnamdi is dumped also

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:51 pm

@jharrison9292: It's been a great run but all good things must come to a end. Thank you Steelers Nation I will miss you all!

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:54 pm

Not really surprising, coming off a below par, injury hit season and earning too much. Polamalu should really go also.

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 4:58 pm

GSC wrote:Not really surprising, coming off a below par, injury hit season and earning too much. Polamalu should really go also.

La Canfora said they tried to work out a new deal but couldn't, think he and his agent probably knew it was coming. Apparently gives Pittsburgh an extra $5million cap room.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:00 pm

Steelers need every cent they can get in the coming years. Puts a pass rusher firmly on their draft radar with Woodley also coming off a down year

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:04 pm

have to wonder how likely Harrison is to walk to Cleveland. Dearth of 3-4 pass rushers, chance to play Pittsburgh twice a year

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:07 pm

GSC wrote:have to wonder how likely Harrison is to walk to Cleveland. Dearth of 3-4 pass rushers, chance to play Pittsburgh twice a year

He wouldn't be overly welcome.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:09 pm

Depends whether Colt McCoy is still around.

Banner wants a splash

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:13 pm

GSC wrote:Depends whether Colt McCoy is still around.

Banner wants a splash

If Cribbs/McCoy were in the locker room it would be a terrible move, even if they aren't it would upset the fanbase.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:14 pm

Well Cribbs is already off lol.

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:25 pm

Well it is looking like he won't be back in Cleveland, but wouldn't solve the problem of the fans quite literally hating him.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:30 pm

Browns fans hate everybody. Hatred of the outside world comes with being a fan of a Cleveland team

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 5:44 pm

GSC wrote:Browns fans hate everybody. Hatred of the outside world comes with being a fan of a Cleveland team

They see him as a guy who has constantly taken cheapshots at their team throughout his career having knocked two out in 2011, while he moans about being fined. We would happily take a number of players off the Steelers hands James Harrison isn't one of them.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 8:55 pm

Jason Cole ‏@JasonColeYahoo
Leading candidates for CB Sean Smith, as if this moment, appear to be Tampa Bay, Arizona and Pats. But things are fluid.

Thank **** for that. He can't cover.

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:02 pm

He'd be a decent #2 corner but don't think he's worth that $8million a year you said he was asking for.

Bucs resigned Blount for a year some say they're interested in trading him away.

by GSC Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:06 pm

Yeah, I don't get why Blount would resign if he was going to be traded.

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:25 pm

I have no idea he may as well have just hit free agency, maybe he thought he could earn himself a role in the offense. I don't get why they're getting rid he's a good backup, and if they do trade him away they have to add a guy to replace him as the backup.

by **Good Golly I'm Olly** Sat Mar 09, 2013 9:37 pm

Seems as if Boldin won't be in Baltimore next season.

Flacco loses his playoff safety blanket

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 10:58 pm

Sounds like Dannell Ellerbe will be though:
"Free agency start Tuesday!!!! Y would I leave my team for a LITTLE MORE? Smh!!! And for everybody tweeting that, what do u consider a LITTLE MORE?"

by **Derbyblue** Sat Mar 09, 2013 11:51 pm

@nfldraftscout
#Lions are all in on Reggie Bush, but I expect a busy free agency season there.

by **Pr4wn** Sun Mar 10, 2013 1:17 am

He was going to be a RFA. If we put a second round tender on him, nobody is going to take that. After extending him for a year we might get a fourth or fifth rounder.

by GSC Sun Mar 10, 2013 9:22 pm

Being reported that Jarvis Jones got a fresh medical diagnosis that he never had Spinal Sperosis at USC and it was a mild spine concussion/stinger.

if true I want badly at 4

by Colan (niner) Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:04 pm

That would be great for Jones. But still don't think he should be taken in top five, at least he shouldn't fall as much as had been reported

by GSC Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:06 pm

Jones was the best 3-4 OLB I think but potential injury scared teams off. If he checks out he's top 10 at least

by Colan (niner) Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:14 pm

definitely top ten but I think Dion Jordan has emeged as top OLB and not sure there is a fit in top five for Jones. I wouldn't be shocked if he has a great pro day and rises though. I'm caught in two minds with him, I loved watching him play in college but can't help but think he might struggle in the NFL. He might be the best OLB in the draft for a team that wants a pure pass rusher but probably not for one that uses a system where their lb's are needed in coverage and the run game more. If he ever dropped anywhere near the 20 mark as reported, I'd want the niners to trade up for him. He wouldn't start but what an option he would be in passing situations

by GSC Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:19 pm

Already have a one dimensional pass rusher Wink

People are falling in love with Jordan's measurables, but Jones tape stacks up better I think. Not that I'd mind either or Milliner.

by Colan (niner) Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:31 pm

Louis Delmas is being linked with the 49ers, made of glass but when healthy is one of the best. I'd happily take him if he medically checks out and Goldson leaves, you could get him for about half the price and he is only a slight downgrade when at his best, younger too. But I'd be even more happy with Kenny Phillips, on a typical Baalke one year deal to show everyone he is healthy. Phillips is the most talented free safety in the league.

by GSC Sun Mar 10, 2013 10:32 pm

Delmas is Bob Sanders mark 2. I'd let someone else take that gamble

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