England vs Italy: Match thread

[nathan]

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So what are peoples predictions? It's snowing in Leicester, so I presume similar weather at Twickenham?

I have a bad feeling about this game and don't think England will run away with it as many are predicting.

[Hood83]

Not seeing this 20 point margin coming any time soon.

[Hood83]

Lineout still rubbish unfortunately

[SecretFly]

Scrums turning into Scotland Wales games. Ref just said "I was clear with you before the game, I want a long pause between pause and set" WHY!?!

Because they are two distinct words and one of them (the first one) means pause?

The ref didn't invent the words or bring them into the game...but maybe he's just saying 'Pause' isn't 'Set'?
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[wales606]

Parrise having one of "those" games - not good for England

But Castro is off

[wales606]

The longer Italy are in this game, the harder it will get for England

[t1000advancedprototype]

Maybe it's time we took a bit of perspective.

England only just beat a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE France
They scraped past a terrible Ireland.

Have England been THAT good?

Italy are doing well so far. Wales could tear it up next week.

[Hood83]

Awful awful awful. This is painful

[LondonTiger]

Scrums turning into Scotland Wales games. Ref just said "I was clear with you before the game, I want a long pause between pause and set" WHY!?!

Because they are two distinct words and one of them (the first one) means pause?

The ref didn't invent the words or bring them into the game...but maybe he's just saying 'Pause' isn't 'Set'?
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I hate to point out but the ref does not say pause.

It is crouch, touch, set.

Clancy wants a long pause between touch and set. I have no idea why.

[wales606]

To be fair to England - it took Wales untill the second half to break down Italy last year

Italy need to stop getting charged down

And they are down to 14 :/

[glamorganalun]

Flood the footballer has bought a yellow.

[t1000advancedprototype]

Flood doing a dive that Lee Byrne would be proud of.

[Geordie]

Flood was a joke but it was a yellow card...he did impede him...

[SecretFly]

What are you all on about? Even when Italy had the same number of players on the field, I only see one victory here....

[wales606]

Excellent scraping in defense by Italy

They have to hold out the next 10 without conceeding a try

[t1000advancedprototype]

Not gone for goal and lost possession?

Decision making that Robshaw would be proud of!

Oh wait...

[100%beefy]

england showing uncharacteristic lack of composure, playing like headless chickens with too much tempo and too lateral

[wales606]

Italy don't want to kick while they are down to 14

Italy making good ground down the blindside

England turn over possession again

[t1000advancedprototype]

Parisse appears in more positions than Ron Jeremy or Shane Williams.

Ashton really is a word that rhymes with Bank.

[SecretFly]

I hate to point out but the ref does not say pause.

It is crouch, touch, set.

Clancy wants a long pause between touch and set. I have no idea why.

Oh sorry..I mean they are three distinct words........crouch, touch, set. I guess that means touch isn't set??? Yep, the theory still works.

[glamorganalun]

Ashton is a very limited player, Italy must work on him.

[100%beefy]

Parisse is the best loose forward in the world in my view

[wales606]

Conveniant blood sub for Italy

[Breadvan]

Maybe it's time we took a bit of perspective.

England only just beat a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE France
They scraped past a terrible Ireland.

Have England been THAT good?

Italy are doing well so far. Wales could tear it up next week.

You can say the same for Wales over the past weeks..

[Morgannwg]

Such a shame. Italy held onto the ball well there.

[wales606]

Parisse is the best loose forward in the world in my view

He is certainly the most skillful footballer

[Casartelli]

I'm starting to think that there was some sort of betting scam behind that All Blacks loss at Twickers.

[Looseheaded]

The longer this scoreline/lack of England tries continues the better
need to see Italy gain confidence and passion

[whocares]

Conveniant blood sub for Italy

??
Masi has been their best back!

[glamorganalun]

Italy will get away with the 10mins yellow, only 3 mins to go.

[bsando]

Scrums turning into Scotland Wales games. Ref just said "I was clear with you before the game, I want a long pause between pause and set" WHY!?!

Because they are two distinct words and one of them (the first one) means pause?

The ref didn't invent the words or bring them into the game...but maybe he's just saying 'Pause' isn't 'Set'?
'

I hate to point out but the ref does not say pause.

It is crouch, touch, set.

Clancy wants a long pause between touch and set. I have no idea why.

Whoops my bad. Yeah that is the only thing that has been confusing me this weekend, the pause between touch and set.

[SecretFly]

Maybe it's time we took a bit of perspective.

England only just beat a TERRIBLE TERRIBLE France
They scraped past a terrible Ireland.

Have England been THAT good?

Italy are doing well so far. Wales could tear it up next week.

You can say the same for Wales over the past weeks..

So maybe Terrible terrible France and terrible terrible Ireland have together completely confused concepts of just how good England, Wales and the rest genuinely are this season?

[Geordie]

Lovin all the anti English crap coming from you welsh guys...i hope the Welsh team are as overconfident as you guys for next week...

[wales606]

Conveniant blood sub for Italy

??
Masi has been their best back!

But he will come back on - meanwhile they get a SH on while theirs is in the bin

[glamorganalun]

Good up and under and good catch but rubbish kick out.

[glamorganalun]

Ref is a homer

[wales606]

Ooooh, thought England would score then

Got a penalty though

[Looseheaded]

Oh wow England are shoite.
i mean, I knew they were overrated due to the low standard of the tournament this year, but wow, no attacking brains as a team, lacking composure.

Oh and that Italian 14 defending against Brown was Ashtonesque

[Guest]

Not sure what's going on with England's attack, they seem to be impatient

[Hood83]

urine poor. Horribly clumsy. This is beyond frustrating.

[LondonTiger]

Poor passing by Goode and Launchbury there.

Well a case of coulda shoulda

[Morgannwg]

Lovin all the anti English crap coming from you welsh guys...i hope the Welsh team are as overconfident as you guys for next week...

Haha rich coming from the arrogance brigade. How many games have you predicted us to lose? I counted our last 3. Did we get any congratulations or apologies? No. Just complaining about how bad the ref or opposition were.

Note my earlier prediction. Today is a 10 point win for England. Next week is an 18 point win for Wales.

[wales606]

People getting a bit carried away because England havent scored a try

People massively underestimating Italy IMO

[SecretFly]

3 tries for England second half.

[RuggerBoy]

Flattering to deceive methinks. Not too much invention about England's play. Workmanlike would just about sum it up for me.

[whocares]

Ashton positioning following brown was quite bad. Another wasted try opportunity. At least keeps italy vaguely in the game.

[Casartelli]

Lovin all the anti English crap coming from you welsh guys...i hope the Welsh team are as overconfident as you guys for next week...

No anti English sentiment here. Just hopeful now that it's this England team that turns up in Cardiff. Not the one that 'beat' NZ.

[Barney McGrew did it]

Flattering to deceive methinks. Not too much invention about England's play. Workmanlike would just about sum it up for me.

Wrong - too much invention, attempting too much, too early. BASICS for god's sake

[LondonTiger]

mispost

[glamorganalun]

just proved on tv Clancy is a homer

[nathan]

Lol @ jiffy

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