Wales U20 - England U20 title decider.

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Wales U20s: Wales Under-20: Jordan Williams (Scarlets/Llanelli); Harry Robinson (Blues), Cory Allen (Blues/Cardiff), Jack Dixon (Dragons), Ashley Evans (Ospreys/Bridgend); Sam Davies (Ospreys/Swansea), Rhodri Williams (Scarlets/Llandovery); Nicky Thomas (Ospreys/Swansea), Elliot Dee (Bedwas), Nicky Smith (Ospreys/Swansea), Carwyn Jones (Scarlets/Carmarthen), Rhodri Hughes (Ospreys/Swansea), Ellis Jenkins (capt, Blues/Cardiff), Daniel Thomas (Scarlets/Llanelli), Ieuan Jones (Dragons).

Replacements: Ethan Lewis (Blues/Cardiff), Gareth Thomas (Scarlets /Carmarthen), Dan Suter (Ospreys/Bridgend), Jack Jones (Ospreys/Rovigo), Sion Bennett (Scarlets/Carmarthen) Joshua Davies (Dragons/Bedwas), Hallam Amos (Dragons), Steffan Hughes (Scarlets/Llanelli).

Four changes to the side that beat Scotland. Dixon, Evans, Dee and Smith. The undefeated Wales now get to test themselves against one of the top U20 sides in world rugby in a sold out Parc Erias. If Wales win then it is their first win over England and first title at U20 level. Any win for England will see them take the title. This squad this year is probably the best we have had at this level so we have a good chance. Last years crop were not good in the 6 Nations but did well with a stronger squad at the JWC. Many have remained at U20s since then.

Doh ! Forwards caught napping

Try to Eng - wasn't sure TMO was required but guess that they'd rather be safe than sorry?

Huge England pack.

Wales are punishing England with the boot.

Brilliant scrum

score anyone?

9-8 to Wales, but England have a pen in the Wales 22.

England went for the corner instead of the posts.

try england

Happy with that from an English point of view, they've kept the ball in hand, given it a lash and look good for the lead.

Strange seeing such huge guys with baby faces

Was gonna be a pen try otherwise.

I assume English tactics will be maul, pen, line, maul. Repeat until a try is scorer. We just can not defend against it

Some very strange decisions from the ref in the first 20 minutes, but he seems to have settled down. I think England have played pretty well so far.

Serious warning to the Welsh because they're collapsing the Maul.

Anyone still think the welsh pack will match the English???

I'm not hugely into I told you so's but we are being beaten senseless up front!!!

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thebluesmancometh wrote:Anyone still think the welsh pack will match the English???

I'm not hugely into I told you so's but we are being beaten senseless up front!!!

I agree though we are starting well and the scrum is improving. Welsh forwards are doing well on the floor at the breakdown. I am proud to see the ambition and skill.

Sampson Lee would have been a very handy man for Wales tonight.

That said three welsh put ins and England conceded a penalty on all three.

Good strait shove on all three

Brilliant scrum from England!

Cumbrian wrote:Brilliant scrum from England!

Aye fantastic effort...! Really impressive set piece and excellent mauling by England.

Wales back to fifteen men

BMW!! on an England shirt?

Great play by England, phase after phase and a drop goal.

Wales need to compete at the breakdown more

rainbow-warrior wrote:BMW!! on an England shirt?

The ultimate driving machine!


I like the competition this ref is allowing at the breakdown, but on the downside he's also letting go too much clutter, not releasing the tackler, not rolling away and lazy runners.

mbernz wrote:

rainbow-warrior wrote:BMW!! on an England shirt?

The ultimate driving machine!


I like the competition this ref is allowing at the breakdown, but on the downside he's also letting go too much clutter, not releasing the tackler, not rolling away and lazy runners.

and also German lol

Wales had 100% penalty at the start of the 2nd half, the England lad was totally alone with 4 Welsh guys on him and it took an age for any back up from England but the ref allowed him to hold the ball for far too long. Still a good open game and very enjoyable even if I have to watch it on Lime TV lol

You think? I think he is being very strict at the breakdown personally.

I must be getting old. The ref looks a baby.

What's with the tannoy announcer. Lol..

I wish the guy on the P.A. would shut up.

I wish the screaming banshee behind the commentators would.

The singing was lovely and a welcome relief.

Having criticised him he's given penalties for a few of the things I mentioned in the last few minutes, but he wasn't in the first half.

I think there has been a lot of handling on the floor from both sides

Poor calls by the ref their. England backwards trying to set up their maul post line out. They weren't asked to use it. Eventually get it rolling and penalty against Wales.

Divine justice intervened as the young England lad missed the posts.

Game over. Well done England. Very strong team.

15-28 game over

Shifty wrote:15-28 game over

Aye...!

Shame, Wales really couldn't match the power of those England forwards.

Can't wait for Rhodri Williams and Cory Allen to make senior rugby. Both have been outstanding this year

Impressive from the young Eng side. This Welsh side were up for this GS and to take it away took some doing.

Wonder how Moriarty feels, knowing he cost his team a Grand Slam through his stupidity?

Ouch not a good omen.

The Great Aukster wrote:Wonder how Moriarty feels, knowing he cost his team a Grand Slam through his stupidity?

Very happy, he's Welsh!

Rubbish performance by Wales no brains at 10 and he simply does not tackle.

Wales were tenacious and showed good breakdown skills, they should have backed themselves and kept the ball in hand more.

Pleased with the win, 3 tries to nill is not to be sniffed at and I am pretty sure quite a few of these English boys will be available for selection net year as well. Well done lads.

Cumbrian wrote:Wales were tenacious and showed good breakdown skills, they should have backed themselves and kept the ball in hand more.

Pleased with the win, 3 tries to nill is not to be sniffed at and I am pretty sure quite a few of these English boys will be available for selection net year as well. Well done lads.

Na no way, they'll be lost in Aviva Premiership squads where coaches will be to frightened to take a chance of them for fear of getting relegated. Most of these lads won't have the oppertunity to develop.

The Welsh boys on the other hand will probably be capped internationals within 2 years. God bless the Dragons and their 2 hot dogs and a free pint of lager pay structure!

Let's hope it's the same result tomorrow.

Shifty wrote:

Cumbrian wrote:Wales were tenacious and showed good breakdown skills, they should have backed themselves and kept the ball in hand more.

Pleased with the win, 3 tries to nill is not to be sniffed at and I am pretty sure quite a few of these English boys will be available for selection net year as well. Well done lads.

Na no way, they'll be lost in Aviva Premiership squads where coaches will be to frightened to take a chance of them for fear of getting relegated. Most of these lads won't have the oppertunity to develop.

The Welsh boys on the other hand will probably be capped internationals within 2 years. God bless the Dragons and their 2 hot dogs and a free pint of lager pay structure!

They don't all play for Leicester!

Wales gave England a real headache at the breakdown where the lack of a fetcher showed against Wales tenacious ability. Wales also looked good going wide and trying to outflank us, but apart from that England's power, control and game structure were a step up, with 11 to 14 also looking strong and sharp carrying, providing plenty of linebreaks.

Yes good solid performance and plenty of ambition showed in wet conditions. Plenty of good performances tonight.
I thought the scrum might have been more dominant but I felt England bossed the game in most areas.
Shame the close loss to Ireland stopped a slam.

My sarcasm meter isn't working properly so I'll mention quietly that 5 of the English starters for tomorrow have come through the U20s in the last 2-3 years...

Cumbrian wrote:My sarcasm meter isn't working properly so I'll mention quietly that 5 of the English starters for tomorrow have come through the U20s in the last 2-3 years...

Marler, Launchbury, Farrell, Tuilagi and ?????

Youngs