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First topic message reminder :

n Harris arrives at Ospreys

In

Tito Tebaldi (Zebra) – Confirmed
Rhodri Williams (Scarlets) - Rumour
Tyler Ardron (Ontario Blues) - Confirmed
Jamie Murphy (Bridgend) - Confirmed
Jeff Hassler (Prairie Wolf Pack) - Confirmed
Mathew Dwyer (Bridgend) - Confirmed
Sam Williams (Aberavon)- Confirmed
Chris Gibbes ( Waikato/ Assistant Coach) - Confirmed
Zac Guilford (Crusaders) -Rumour
Aisea Natoga (Nadroga) - Confirmed


Out

Kahn Fotuali'i (Northampton Saints) - Confirmed
Jonathan Thomas (/Worcester Warriors) - Confirmed
Jonathan Humphries (Scotland Forwards Coach) - Confirmed
Campbell Johnstone ( Russian Club) - Confirmed
George Stowers (Tasman) - Confirmed
Cai Griffiths (London Welsh)- Confirmed
Ian Gough (Dragons) - Rumour

Scarlets

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Steven Shingler ( London Irish) –Confirmed
Ed Jackson (London Welsh ) – Rumour
Andrew Coombes (Dragons) - Rumour
Gareth Delve ( Melbourne Rebels) - Rumour
Serge Lilo (Wellington Lions) - Rumour
John Barclay (Glasgow Warriors) - Confirmed
Nick Cummins (Western Force) - Rumour
Farid Sid (Perpignan)- Rumour
Opeti Fonua (Agen) - Rumour
Brett Deacon (Leicester Tigers) - Rumour
Regan King (Backs/Skills Coach) - Rumour
Genesis Mamea (Wellington) - Rumour
Darran Harris (Pontypridd) - Confirmed
Jamie Cub Davies (Carmarthen Athletic) - Confirmed
Josh Lewis (Ebbw Vale) - Confirmed
William Helu (Rugby Roma Olimpic) - Rumour
Lachlan McCaffery (Western Force)- Rumour
Rodnet So'oialo (Honda Heat) - Rumour
Frazier Climo (Taranaki) - Rumour
Albert Nikoro (Blues) -Rumour


Out

Tomas vallejos cinalli (Pampas XV) – Confirmed
Gareth Maule (London Irish/Munster) – Rumour
Adam Warren (Cardiff)- Rumour
Scott Williams (Cardiff) – Rumour
Rhodri Williams (Ospreys) – Rumour
Tavis Knoyle ( Gloucester) – Confirmed
Gareth Davies (Blues) –Rumour
Owen Williams (Leicester Tigers) – Confirmed
Jonathan Edwards (Cardiff RFC) – Confirmed
Andy Fenby (London Irish) - confirmed
Morgan Stoddart (Retired) - Confirmed
Dan Newton (London Scottish) - Confirmed
Kieron Murphy (Brive) - Confirmed
George North ( Northampton Saints)- Confirmed
Rheon James (Cornish Pirates)- Confirmed
Richie Pugh (Released) -Confirmed
Rhys Jones (Released) - RumourConfirmed
Dale Ford (Released/Bristol) - Confirmed
Samson Lee (Gloucester) - Rumour
Peter Edwards (London Welsh) -Confirmed
Craig Hawkins (Released) - Confirmed
Craig Price (Leicester Tigers) -Rumour
Lee Williams (Carmarthen Quins)- Confirmed


Dragons

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Ross Wardle (Bedwas) - Confirmed
Richie Rees (Edinburgh) - Confirmed
Luciano Orquera (Zebre) -Rumour
Martin Muller (Cheetahs) - Confirmed
Juan Gomez (Pampas XV) - Rumour
Netani Talei (Edingburgh) - Confirmed
Francisco Chaparro (Stade Francias) - Confirmed
Kris Burton (Treviso) - Confirmed
Rhys Thomas (Wasps)- Confirmed
Malakai Fekitoa (Auckland) - Rumour
Lyn Jones (London Welsh) -Confirmed
Kingsley Jones (Russia National Team) - Rumour
Mathew Screech (Cardiff Blues) - Confirmed
Franck Montanella (London Welsh) - Rumour
Hudson Tonga’uiha (London Welsh) - Rumour
Jason Tovey (Cardiff Blues)- Confirmed
Ian Gough (Ospreys) - Rumour

Out

Andrew Coombes (Scarlets) – Rumour
Dan Lydiate (Racing Metro)- Confirmed
Steve Jones (Retired)- Confirmed
Tom Brown (Released/Jersey) - Confirmed
Tondi Chavhanga (Released) - Confirmed
Iestyn Thomas (Retired) - Confirmed
Josh Tyler (Released) - Confirmed
Hywel Stoddart (Released) - Confirmed
Tim Ryan (Coventry) - Confirmed

Blues

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Filo Paulo (North Harbour) - confirmed
Matthew Rees (Scarlets) Confirmed
Liam Davies (confirmed - until end of season)
Gethin Jenkins (Toulon) - Confirmed
Rhys Gill (Saracens) - rumoured
Adam Warren (Scarlets) - rumoured
Scott Williams –(Scarlets) – rumoured
Tavis Knoyle (Scarlets) – rumour
Gareth Davies ( Scarlets) - rumour
Rodney So'oialo (Honda Heat) - Rumour

Out

Jamie Roberts (Racing Metro) - confirmed
Tom James (Exeter Chiefs) -confirmed
Richard Mustoe (retirement) -confirmed
Fau Filise - (retirement) rumour
Ceri Sweeney (Exeter Chiefs) - Confirmed
Leigh Halfpenny (Clermont) - Rumour
Michael Paterson (Sale Sharks) - Confirmed
Campese Ma'afu (Nottingham) -Confirmed
Corry Hill (Cornish Pirates) - Confirmed
Andy Kyriacou (Retired)- Confirmed
Xavier Rush (Leaves) - Confirmed
Mathew Screech (Bedwas/Dragons) - Confirmed
Nathan Trevett  (London Welsh) - Confirmed
Jason Tovey (Dragons) - Confirmed


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Post by Jhamer25 Fri 02 Aug 2013, 3:25 pm

The fact is i don't have a clue on the limit and laws on NWQ players and neither does anybody else (even thought they pretend to know).
Only the Scarlet's board will know.
Personally an 8 is the most important and we NEED to use a NWQ spot for an 8. If we can sign this Climo and still sign a NWQ 8, then why not. But our main priority must be an 8. I don't' know much about this Climo and don't really think much of the rumor because there has been at least a dozen now. But i do trust we can find and sign a suitable player.

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Post by The Saint Fri 02 Aug 2013, 6:56 pm

You have Timani to play at 8. You aren't going to get a better 8 than that. Reckon McCusker will keep him out of the team? Rolling Eyes 

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Post by Jhamer25 Fri 02 Aug 2013, 10:23 pm

The Saint wrote:You have Timani to play at 8. You aren't going to get a better 8 than that. Reckon McCusker will keep him out of the team? Rolling Eyes 

You don't know that though, i haven't seen him play 8 before. If you have and he was good then ok. Have you seen hi play 8 and if so what was he like ?
Apart from that, yes they will favor Rob instead of Timani.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Fri 02 Aug 2013, 10:37 pm

Not sure if its been mentioned above, but I'm hearing So'oialo may not be going to Blues or Scarlets after all, having apparantly demanded too much cash.

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Post by Artful_Dodger Fri 02 Aug 2013, 10:39 pm

http://www.espn.co.uk/scrum/rugby/story/192731.html

No mention of what sort of money he wants, only that the Blues think its too much given that the guy is 33 and may have a dodgey knee.

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Post by The Saint Fri 02 Aug 2013, 11:47 pm

Jhamer25 wrote:
The Saint wrote:You have Timani to play at 8. You aren't going to get a better 8 than that. Reckon McCusker will keep him out of the team? Rolling Eyes 

You don't know that though, i haven't seen him play 8 before. If you have and he was good then ok. Have you seen hi play 8 and if so what was he like ?
Apart from that, yes they will favor Rob instead of Timani.

The guy is massive, and a good ball carrier. What more do you need? Theyprobably will favour Rob though unfortunately. It's a shame for Rob because when he began his career at the Scarlets he looked extremely good.

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Post by The Saint Fri 02 Aug 2013, 11:47 pm

Artful_Dodger wrote:Not sure if its been mentioned above, but I'm hearing So'oialo may not be going to Blues or Scarlets after all, having apparantly demanded too much cash.

It was mentioned Smile.

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Post by George Carlin Sat 03 Aug 2013, 7:01 am

So MJ says that Scarlets are still in the market for an 8?
 
Cannot believe Rodney will be worth the money - he's a journeyman now, really, in the purest sense and all reports point towards his attitude sucking quite a lot. Why not make Gareth Delve an offer? WQ and has had a very good couple of seasons fighting a losing cause as Rebels captain.
 
Surely that's all the go-forward and leadership that Jones could want?
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Post by VinceWLB Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:11 pm

With the selling of George North i think it's a bit of a disgrace the Scarlets couldn't bring in Delve (he is off to Japan).

Or maybe the coaching staff doesn't rate him that much to break the bank for him.

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Post by BuzzScarlet Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:25 pm

I believe it was Danny Wilson the scarlets forwards coach who said a while back that Delve had been an option but was to expensive for them. Regardless of the money we've had from the sale of North, he'd be able earn a great deal more in Japan. As much as I'd liked to have signed Delve I wouldn't want us to break the bank for him especially as we have players like John Davies, Rhys Priestland and Scott Williams out of contract at the end of the season so I'd prefer to see the money spent to help retain the them. In all honesty I'd be surprised if we get an 8 in now, I think our 8's next season will be Timani and mccusker, doesn't fill me with confidence really.

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Post by international197 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:36 pm

BuzzScarlet wrote:I believe it was Danny Wilson the scarlets forwards coach who said a while back that Delve had been an option but was to expensive for them. Regardless of the money we've had from the sale of North, he'd be able earn a great deal more in Japan. As much as I'd liked to have signed Delve I wouldn't want us to break the bank for him especially as we have players like John Davies, Rhys Priestland and Scott Williams out of contract at the end of the season so I'd prefer to see the money spent to help retain the them. In all honesty I'd be surprised if we get an 8 in now, I think our 8's next season will be Timani and mccusker, doesn't fill me with confidence really.

How about Sion Bennett and Craig Price?

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Post by BuzzScarlet Sat 03 Aug 2013, 12:41 pm

Craig Price and Sion Bennett are both 6's, I think we've got enough 6's being converted to number 8's as it is. Price and Bennett have very little or no experience at rabbo level and it would be a big ask for either to come in and be expected to do the job we need done at 8.

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Post by international197 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 1:18 pm

I think you're right about Sion Bennett being primarily a six, however...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-union/20414846 wrote:Scarlets: M Stoddart (D Newtown 58); N Reynolds, G Maule, G Owen (A Warren 78), A Fenby; A Thomas, G Davies (R Williams 77); P John (S Hopkins 75), E Phillips (K Myhill 77), J Adriaanse (S Lee 54), J Ball, R Kelly, G Earle (J Snyman 63), J Edwards (capt) (D Thomas 45), C Price.

...Craig Price started at eight for the Scarlets in their 2012/2013 season away win against Munster, ...

http://www.llanellirugby.com/News/Article/25065 wrote:Llanelli RFC Team v Pontypridd RFC Principality Premiership Grand Final Saturday  18/5/13 k.off 7pm

15 Dion Jones 14 Kristian Phillips 13 Nic Reynolds 12 Chris Keenan

11 Dale Ford 10 Jordan Williams  9 Gareth Davies

1 Rhys Thomas  2 Kirby Myhill 3 Simon Gardiner  4 Adam Powell (capt) 5 Jake Ball

6 Lewis Rawlins 7 Dan Thomas  8 Craig Price

16 Tom Sloane 17 Craig Hawkins 18 Duane Eager

19 Stuart Leach  20 Justin James  21 Johnny Lewis  22 Steffan Hughes 23 Peter Edwards  

... and started at eight for Llanelli RFC in the 2012/2013 Principality Premiership Grand Final, so I think he [Craig Price] is capable of playing eight for the Scarlets next season, as is Sion Bennett.

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Post by The Saint Sat 03 Aug 2013, 1:37 pm

Timani, Price and Bennet could all do well at 8 I reckon. Shingler is seen as the incumbent 6, so it makes sense to give Timani a lot of game time at 8 when you consider that Price could be with the Sevens team and Bennett the U20s.

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Post by VinceWLB Sat 03 Aug 2013, 1:38 pm

From what i have seen Craig Price isn't the big bruising 8 needed, he is more of a pacey 8.

Dan Baker would be a great pick imo, as he is behind Bearman and Allen at the Ospreys.

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Post by BuzzScarlet Sat 03 Aug 2013, 1:42 pm

Yes he has played once at 8 for the scarlets, hence my comment that he lacks experience in the rabbo. Craig IMO does not have the physical presence we require at 8, he is more of a ball playing 6 than a dynamic ball carrying 8 which we need, he's a decent enough player to cover the whole of the back row in case of injury or in the lv cup but nothing more than that really.

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Post by international197 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 1:55 pm

The Saint wrote:Timani, Price and Bennet could all do well at 8 I reckon. Shingler is seen as the incumbent 6, so it makes sense to give Timani a lot of game time at 8 when you consider that Price could be with the Sevens team and Bennett the U20s.

As far as I know, Bennett's Wales U20s career is over; according to the Carmarthen Quins website, he turns 20 in November 2013.

http://www.carmarthenquinsrfc.co.uk/Teams/Player?PersonId=151292

I believe Wales U20s' next fixture is against Italy U20s in January/February 2014 in the U20s Six Nations.

As far as I know, a player needs to be WQ and under 20 years of age on the 1st of January 2014 to be eligible to represent Wales U20s in that fixture.

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Post by The Saint Sat 03 Aug 2013, 2:02 pm

197, that was just an assumption of mine, because a fair few of the most recent U20s crop are still eligible next season. Thanks for pointing that out.

VinceWLB wrote:From what i have seen Craig Price isn't the big bruising 8 needed, he is more of a pacey 8.

Dan Baker would be a great pick imo, as he is behind Bearman and Allen at the Ospreys.

Well that's a good mix to have. Scarlets are well stocked already in the back row and you can't possible get more unbalanced than Turnbull, Edwards and McCusker starting at 6, 7 and 8. So I'm not sure why would want to nick from the Ospreys. Bearman is close to retirement and Allen is yet to nail down a spot in the team, so Baker is well in the mix, especially now that he's capped.

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Post by international197 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 2:11 pm

I assume the Scarlets will not be signing Stuart Leach or Ed Price, two Llanelli RFC no.8s, for the 2013/2014 season? I think they would provide good competition for the likes of Sione Timani, Rob McCusker, Sion Bennett, Craig Price and Lewis Rawlins for the Scarlets number eight shirt next season.

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Post by BuzzScarlet Sat 03 Aug 2013, 2:27 pm

International- have you seen all of the above play regularly? I'll b honest I haven't seen all of the above play play but have seen most of them, Rawlings an 8? I've seen him play as a flanker and he seems way to lightweight for an 8. Just because a player is playing premiership rugby as an 8 doesn't mean he is any ware near being good enough to be a regional player. For example, Kieron Murphy was an average squad playing 8 in the rabbo but when he played 8 in the premiership he was head and shoulders above everyone else, Kristian Phillips really stood out in premiership on the wing but was poor in the rabbo, basically what I'm trying to say is there's a hell of a step up between the premiership and rabbo and at a the moment I'm not sure if we have anyone within the region who can step up as a robbo/Heineken cup number 8.

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Post by Jhamer25 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 3:57 pm

If Rodney want's to be greedy, then let him. He will disappear into a low rated top 14 side like Agen. He has the chance to play top flight rugby again but he is wants more money. If we wanted him that much I think we could sign him but they obviously have their doubts which gives me the impression that he is a definite no go signing.
As for Sion bennett and Criag Price, that would just be a stupid call. If we were to make them our 8 then what would have been the point of letting Kieran go. It's because we need a different styled number 8 than Murphy which is why we let him go. Sion and Craig are 6's and thats where they should stay. We don't want another repeat of Mccusker do we.
The strength we have at 6 is ridicules but at 8 is also ridiculous (but in a different context)

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Post by Guest Sat 03 Aug 2013, 6:36 pm

international, please take the hint from other posters and stop listing every player within the Scarlets region available in a certain position. Try to understand that the Scarlets need someone of the calibre of Ben Morgan or David Lyons or, failing that, a proven player who will first choice at number 8 and more than capable of driving the ball up in the Rabo. Merely naming 30 kids who the Scarlets could pick at 8 proves nothing.

Jhamer25 wrote:If Rodney want's to be greedy, then let him. He will disappear into a low rated top 14 side like Agen. He has the chance to play top flight rugby again but he is wants more money.

I think it's acceptable to be 'greedy' at 34. It's his last, or penultimate, contract, and therefore pay package as a player. He's going to go for as much as he possibly can. There's no way he'd move to Wales to earn less than he is in Japan, and any notion of professional desire or will to win things in Europe is, as an ex All Black, almost certainly gone; going to Japan is in essence a semi-retirement at that age anyway. Would have been a poor signing for either region anyway. I would have thought the Blues would have really tried to offer Delve an acceptable wage, as it surely wouldn't have to match a Japanese offer, only to be in the same region (no pun intended), for him to come home.

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Post by Jhamer25 Sat 03 Aug 2013, 7:21 pm

miaow wrote:international, please take the hint from other posters and stop listing every player within the Scarlets region available in a certain position. Try to understand that the Scarlets need someone of the calibre of Ben Morgan or David Lyons or, failing that, a proven player who will first choice at number 8 and more than capable of driving the ball up in the Rabo. Merely naming 30 kids who the Scarlets could pick at 8 proves nothing.

Jhamer25 wrote:If Rodney want's to be greedy, then let him. He will disappear into a low rated top 14 side like Agen. He has the chance to play top flight rugby again but he is wants more money.

I think it's acceptable to be 'greedy' at 34. It's his last, or penultimate, contract, and therefore pay package as a player. He's going to go for as much as he possibly can. There's no way he'd move to Wales to earn less than he is in Japan, and any notion of professional desire or will to win things in Europe is, as an ex All Black, almost certainly gone; going to Japan is in essence a semi-retirement at that age anyway. Would have been a poor signing for either region anyway. I would have thought the Blues would have really tried to offer Delve an acceptable wage, as it surely wouldn't have to match a Japanese offer, only to be in the same region (no pun intended), for him to come home.

But it seems no other teams realy want him. Looks like no English, new zealand or big french club want to try their chances with him. If he wanted to play if top flight rugby we or the blues would have been his best option. He has the chance with us but he want more money and it looks like no other team is willing to do that because of his conditioning. He can't really be icky by the sounds.
He could have played in the Heienken cup again but wont have the chance because i can't see any Irish or top french/english clubs signing him.

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Post by Jhamer25 Sun 04 Aug 2013, 10:15 pm

Good news for Welsh rugby and the Dragons. Let's just hope that Halfpenny, Sam, Adam, Alyn Wyn, Ian Evans and John Davies follow the same course. Good on ya Toby Very Happy 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/huge-boost-welsh-rugby-toby-5585503

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Post by Guest Sun 04 Aug 2013, 11:00 pm

Yep. Really chuffed if it is confirmed.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 7:56 am

It would be great news if Toby stays. He'll still be worth a fair bit in a few years' time if he wants to leave then - he might even be worth more than he is now.

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Post by The Saint Mon 05 Aug 2013, 10:39 am

Until 2016? Great news. I wonder what Lyn Jones said to him... Now all he has to do is keep the next up and coming 8 at the Region.

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 10:42 am

This gives Ieuan Jones plenty of time to develop without too much pressure. Great to see the Dragons making so many positive announcements.

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 10:49 am

Jhamer25 wrote:Good news for Welsh rugby and the Dragons. Let's just hope that Halfpenny, Sam, Adam, Alyn Wyn, Ian Evans and John Davies follow the same course. Good on ya Toby Very Happy 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/huge-boost-welsh-rugby-toby-5585503

Evans was out of contract at the end of last season and I am not sure what his plans are.

Alyn Wynn and Adam Jones are Ospreys until the end of next season, I think Sam, Jon Davies and Halfpenny the same for their respective regions.


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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 10:58 am

maestegmafia wrote:Alyn Wynn and Adam Jones are Ospreys until the end of next season, I think Sam, Jon Davies and Halfpenny the same.

I think we'd have heard something if Warburton, JD2 and Halfpenny had signed for the Os!

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:03 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:
maestegmafia wrote:Alyn Wynn and Adam Jones are Ospreys until the end of next season, I think Sam, Jon Davies and Halfpenny the same.

I think we'd have heard something if Warburton, JD2 and Halfpenny had signed for the Os!

Best kept secret in world rugby mate...!

Sorry typo now amended..

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:04 am

You can't beat a bit of pedantry on a Monday morning! Wink 

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:14 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:You can't beat a bit of pedantry on a Monday morning! Wink 

If we were to acquisition a couple of Welsh players, JD2 and Halfpenny would be very high on my list.

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:14 am

You let Halfpenny slip through your fingers, didn't you?

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Post by Guest Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:36 am

Martin Muller isn't coming to RP now. It looks like he's signed for the Lions (I think) in SA

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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:39 am

I'd heard we weren't happy that he's played so little rugby over the last couple of seasons. If that's what's swung it for us, then I agree with the decision.

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Post by Guest Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:40 am

Risca Rev wrote:Martin Muller isn't coming to RP now. It looks like he's signed for the Lions (I think) in SA


What a schmuck! Either he's broken a contract or the region has been very silly announcing his signing before a contract was secured.

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Post by Guest Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:41 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:I'd heard we weren't happy that he's played so little rugby over the last couple of seasons. If that's what's swung it for us, then I agree with the decision.


Yep, if this is true then fair enough.  I think the Muller signing might have been pre- Lyn Jones?  Perhaps he's had a look and thought, nah that's not how I operate (taking a punt on an untried/un-played player).


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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:44 am

That's a good point, he was 'signed' (in inverted commas because it can't have been that binding) before Lyn Jones's appointment

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 11:47 am

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:You let Halfpenny slip through your fingers, didn't you?

Yes, what a mistake that was. They deemed him too small at under 20 level and let him go to the Blues...! Mind you whoever advises on Fullbacks at Llandarcy is not the best, Fussell is appalling and Ross Jones shows bags of promise.

We let Prydie go when injured too, now look at how well he is doing at the Dragons.

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Post by pioden gorllewin Mon 05 Aug 2013, 1:19 pm

I was looking forward to seeing muller pull on a dragons shirt, think he could have been successful as earle & snyman have been for us. but like it has been mentioned, he wasn't a lyn or kingsley signing. maybe kingsley knows a monster of a Russian lock that available.

maesteg you could add gareth owen to the list of good fullbacks ospreys let go. know he's was plagued with injuries while at the ospreys. but he found a bit of form for us last season, and there is no doubting his potential.
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 1:45 pm

http://www.newportgwentdragons.com/News/Article/30170

So there you go. Toby's signed up for another two seasons! Very Happy 

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Post by pioden gorllewin Mon 05 Aug 2013, 1:51 pm

Luckless Pedestrian wrote:http://www.newportgwentdragons.com/News/Article/30170

So there you go. Toby's signed up for another two seasons! Very Happy 

great news - you don't fancy loaning ieuan jones to us for a season until we find ourselves an 8? Hug Wink 
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Post by Luckless Pedestrian Mon 05 Aug 2013, 1:54 pm

Only if you give us George North for the season. Oh, hang on...

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 1:56 pm

pioden gorllewin wrote:I was looking forward to seeing muller pull on a dragons shirt, think he could have been successful as earle & snyman have been for us. but like it has been mentioned, he wasn't a lyn or kingsley signing. maybe kingsley knows a monster of a Russian lock that available.

maesteg you could add gareth owen to the list of good fullbacks ospreys let go. know he's was plagued with injuries while at the ospreys. but he found a bit of form for us last season, and there is no doubting his potential.

Definitely...!

Good player, shame he had so many injuries but he really is a talented lad, great centre too. Fussell seems to have done something that really impressed the lads at Llandarcy, I dont see it myself.

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Post by Jhamer25 Mon 05 Aug 2013, 2:34 pm

maestegmafia wrote:
Jhamer25 wrote:Good news for Welsh rugby and the Dragons. Let's just hope that Halfpenny, Sam, Adam, Alyn Wyn, Ian Evans and John Davies follow the same course. Good on ya Toby Very Happy 

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/huge-boost-welsh-rugby-toby-5585503

Evans was out of contract at the end of last season and I am not sure what his plans are.

Alyn Wynn and Adam Jones are Ospreys until the end of next season, I think Sam, Jon Davies and Halfpenny the same for their respective regions.

Sure that Ian Evans, Adam and Alyn wyn are all out of contract at the end of this season. IM sure about John Davies and Halfpenny as well. I'm sure i heard that Sam was as well.

Also where did you lot hear that the Muller deal had fallen through? Anyway, if it has then they should still work on signing Ian Gough. Would be great and h is welsh qualifed for you.
Why was it Muller's deal that fell through couldn't it have been Talei's Whistle
They have 3 good number 8's now for a few season and we have nothing

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Post by maestegmafia Mon 05 Aug 2013, 3:07 pm

Gough would be a useful guy for the Dragons, and a player that the Ospreys are likely to use less this season as their new lads get more games.

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Post by pioden gorllewin Tue 06 Aug 2013, 8:27 am

Andrew Hore declares new Osprey template for signing players:

ANDREW Hore has underlined that the great Filo Tiatia will be the template for future recruitment at the Ospreys.

The region believe their charismatic No. 8 to be their finest ever overseas signing, with the New Zealander not costing the earth but proving an unqualified success during his four-season stay at the Liberty.

And the Ospreys reckon that spectacular value-for-money coup they achieved in capturing Tiatia, who made 99 appearances for them between 2006 and 2010 en route to becoming a club legend, should point the way for their dealings in the transfer market in the campaigns ahead.

"It is a question of being smart in the way we do things," said Hore, the region's chief executive

"It isn't about getting another Filo. But it is about getting value for money. He was superb for us in that respect, not just on the field but with the way he conducted himself off the pitch as well.

"He set an example and gave everything for the shirt.

"The big mistake many entities make is in thinking if they sign a big name it is guaranteed to make their team stronger. When Filo came in, he wasn't especially heralded. But by the time he left, everyone knew about him."

Hore continued: "Steve Tandy and Andy Lloyd have a big emphasis on having the right kind of people in our squad and I applaud them for that.

"Of course, a big name can sometimes come off. Look what Gary Teichmann did for Newport.

"But if you are prepared to search there is every chance you will hit upon someone who could do a great job without costing a huge amount."

The Ospreys may have missed out on a trophy last season but Hore doesn't believe they took a step back.

"Given all the changes that were happening, the guys did extremely well," he said.

"We were a gnat's nose from being in the semi-finals of the Pro12 and in the middle of the campaign the Liberty was rocking. We had some strong European performances and some big wins in the league. Home and away we beat every other region, so there were a lot of highlights.

"Now it's a question of pushing on."

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Post by Impossible Standards Tue 06 Aug 2013, 12:09 pm

Great news on Toby staying. Ian Gough was due to join Dragons but after a health check it was decided to put the move on hold. Muller has signed for the Lions who are back into the S15.

http://www.supersport.com/rugby/sa-rugby/news/130805/And_now_the_Kings_exodus_begins

So now we don't have a lock joining the dragons and Ian Evans who worked under Lyn before is out of contract do you think he may make a move?
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Post by welshy824 (new) Tue 06 Aug 2013, 1:15 pm

I cant see ian evans moving from the ospreys to be totally honest, I don't mean to be rude/offensive to the dragons, but why would he? he has been at the ospreys for so long, and through them he has gained welsh caps and toured with the lions, has a great partnership with Alun Wyn and the front 3 of the ospreys.

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