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Post by LondonTiger Wed Jun 05, 2013 3:00 pm

First topic message reminder :

Slight deja vu I know, but as the other thread is concentrating on the choice of Corbisiero to join as cover, I thought we should have a separate one to discuss the citing.

http://www.lionsrugby.com/news/11983.php#.Ua99_Zx5F9U

For me the Force scrum half was grinding his forearm into Healy's face, who was lying trapped on the ground.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:05 am

The dualling banjos is (apart from the bondage buggery manomano r*** scene) the only thing that is recallable from Deliverance.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:05 am

"I am very relieved that the hearing has cleared me of such an allegation," he said.

"I was naturally very disappointed that there was a citing in the first place."

"I always maintained that nothing happened and that I had done nothing illegal. The opposition player's arm hit me. It is as simple as that."

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:05 am

Shame but we move on. He is young enough to get another 2 tours in him and he's still a Lion.

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Post by Pal Joey Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:08 am

Hardly suspicious at all. It's clear as day if you look at it again.

The fact that he's high-tailing it back home sort of gives it away. Wink


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Post by Mickado Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:08 am

Ah feic it anyway, he's so rarely injured, and to pick one up at such a bad time.

Gutted for him, but as the previous poster says, at 25 he's at least 2 more tours in him.

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Post by Biltong Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:08 am

I for one am very disappointed for him, when he played the All BLacks last year, I got a lot of respect for him.

Hopefully he continues and becomes in legendary player and have other opportunities.
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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:11 am

Personally I though Sheehan was potentially fish-hooking Healy from the start anyhow. Healy didn't move his mouth to Sheehans hand... Sheehans hand moved to Healy's mouth.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:14 am

fa0019 wrote:Personally I though Sheehan was potentially fish-hooking Healy from the start anyhow. Healy didn't move his mouth to Sheehans hand... Sheehans hand moved to Healy's mouth.

Don't start...

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:16 am

greytiger wrote:
fa0019 wrote:Personally I though Sheehan was potentially fish-hooking Healy from the start anyhow. Healy didn't move his mouth to Sheehans hand... Sheehans hand moved to Healy's mouth.

Don't start...

mate we're the nation that still talks about BOD and the 05 tour 1st test ... what do you expect.... acceptance!!!

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Post by Mickado Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:18 am

Ryan Grant has been called up. Braveheart

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:20 am

Mickado wrote:Ryan Grant has been called up. Braveheart

For real? Awesome. Should lift the Scot's spirit. Gethin Jenkins is ruled out of tomorrow's game now, so it makes sense.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:20 am

fa0019 wrote:
greytiger wrote:
fa0019 wrote:Personally I though Sheehan was potentially fish-hooking Healy from the start anyhow. Healy didn't move his mouth to Sheehans hand... Sheehans hand moved to Healy's mouth.

Don't start...

mate we're the nation that still talks about BOD and the 05 tour 1st test ... what do you expect.... acceptance Deliverance!!!

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:21 am

Mickado wrote:Ryan Grant has been called up. Healy Cited - Page 4 1805857014



Thats strange given that Corbisero was already called up. Wonder why that is?

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Post by lostinwales Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:22 am

Jenkins...

Must be - hes out of the reds game because of the calf

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:22 am

What a turnaround..

Grant, Corbisiero and Vunipola... who would have called that 12 months ago???

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Post by Mickado Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:24 am

Presume it's a precaution for Jenkins being out the same as Corbs was a precaution for DJ Church.

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:26 am

Jenkins out for first 3 matches and they call out a replacement so meaning he's probably out of the next one too...

Were these guys actually assessed prior to joining up?

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Post by damage_13 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:28 am

Mako is in for Jenkins vs Reds now

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Post by red_stag Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:28 am

Has Healy or Jenkins actually been ruled out of tour yet?
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Post by lostinwales Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:30 am

May be interesting on Saturday - MV might have to do the full match as there is now no cover for LH unless you count fatboy Stevens or Corbisero steps straight off the plain and into his kit

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:30 am

Healy yes. Jenkins is struggling apparently. Read it on ESPN after eagle eyed Mickado stated it on this forum.

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Post by lostinwales Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:30 am

Healy is ruled out with ankle ligament damage

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Post by Mickado Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:31 am

red_stag wrote:Has Healy or Jenkins actually been ruled out of tour yet?

Lions official twitter said Healy was out.

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:32 am

lostinwales wrote:May be interesting on Saturday - MV might have to do the full match as there is now no cover for LH unless you count fatboy Stevens or Corbisero steps straight off the plain and into his kit

I'd rather see a half jet lagged Corbisiero play then Stevens get anywhere near a scrum.

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Post by Cyril Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:33 am

Tough on Healy but this is a real chance for Mako to get the loosehead shirt now. He was already playing well enough for it to be a straight fight between him and Healy.

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:35 am

so much for the lions scrum dominance then.

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Post by RubyGuby Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:36 am

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:Tough on Healy but this is a real chance for Mako to get the loosehead shirt now. He was already playing well enough for it to be a straight fight between him and Healy.
I think Gethin Jenkins might have something to say about that thumbsup

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Post by bluestonevedder Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:36 am

Real shame for Healy. He's a great scrummager and such an asset in the loose. Think we will miss him greatly. Chance for Mako to step up.

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Post by Guest Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:36 am

Cyril on 606v2 wrote:Tough on Healy but this is a real chance for Mako to get the loosehead shirt now. He was already playing well enough for it to be a straight fight between him and Healy.

He is playing well. I did wonder if he was likely to be considered impact sub though.

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:39 am

thank the lord we're not facing a team who can aggressively counter scrum.

I think Corbisiero or Grant could actually get a start if Jenkins cannot prove fitness. Mako is great on impact but his set piece is not up to "test" standard.

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Post by MrsP Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:42 am

fa0019 wrote:Personally I though Sheehan was potentially fish-hooking Healy from the start anyhow. Healy didn't move his mouth to Sheehans hand... Sheehans hand moved to Healy's mouth.

Headscratch

Didn't Sheehan indicate that he ad been bitten on the forearm?

Now that would be some Fish hook!

Surprised the cameras didn't pick that one up!

Shocked

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Post by SecretFly Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:45 am

Healy puts up the big front, (youthful bluster added to a big body) but he'll be devastated by that.

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:48 am

What would you expect... he's been dreaming of this most probably since he saw Wallace lift that shoulder on the boks in the 1st test in 97.

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Post by Mickado Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:55 am

MrsP wrote:
fa0019 wrote:Personally I though Sheehan was potentially fish-hooking Healy from the start anyhow. Healy didn't move his mouth to Sheehans hand... Sheehans hand moved to Healy's mouth.

Headscratch

Didn't Sheehan indicate that he ad been bitten on the forearm?

Now that would be some Fish hook!

Surprised the cameras didn't pick that one up!

Shocked

The cameras did pick up Sheehans hand in and around the mouth of Healy though, just before Sheehan drove his forearm into Healy's mush.

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Post by valtrepkos Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:59 am

Richard Hill being taken out in '01 changed the whole dynamic of that tour!!

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Post by nathan Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:59 am

GunsGerms wrote:
Mickado wrote:Ryan Grant has been called up. Healy Cited - Page 4 1805857014



Thats strange given that Corbisero was already called up. Wonder why that is?

two injuries?

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Post by Cyril Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:04 am

RubyGuby wrote:
Cyril on 606v2 wrote:Tough on Healy but this is a real chance for Mako to get the loosehead shirt now. He was already playing well enough for it to be a straight fight between him and Healy.
I think Gethin Jenkins might have something to say about that thumbsup
Perhaps, but Jenkins is struggling with injury at the moment and Mako is playing very well.

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:04 am

I missed the Jenkins one. Fair enough. Im sure he will prove a good addition. Hopefully they will both get game time if they can get over the jet lag.

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Post by fa0019 Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:06 am

Injuries will happen - AUS already have Pocock their captain and best player out as well as Ioane, Smith, Higginbottom and probably Beale from his own adventures.

Here are a list of test players we missed from the last couple of tours.

93 - Robert Jones, Scott Hastings, Wade Dooley, Ian Hunter.
97 - Scott Quinnell, Rob Howley, Ieuen Evans.
01 - Greenwood, Dillaglio, Hill.
05 - BOD, Vickery, Dillaglio.
09 - Flannery, Henson, Wilkinson.

As all four teams are managed independently of each others... the lions do not have the luxury of man managing their players to make sure they are all as fit as possible for a forthcoming lions tour.

If there are less than half a dozen call ups come the end of the tour I'd be surprised.

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Post by Portnoy's Complaint Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:40 am

fa0019 wrote:so much for the lions scrum dominance then.

Once again it looks like England will have to do what the rest of the Isles can't - call in from squad depth. Wink

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Post by the-goon Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:16 am

Does anyone know how long Healy is out for? 2 months? 6 months? I haven't seen anything

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Post by GunsGerms Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:28 am

fa0019 wrote:Injuries will happen - AUS already have Pocock their captain and best player out as well as Ioane, Smith, Higginbottom and probably Beale from his own adventures.

Here are a list of test players we missed from the last couple of tours.

93 - Robert Jones, Scott Hastings, Wade Dooley, Ian Hunter.
97 - Scott Quinnell, Rob Howley, Ieuen Evans.
01 - Greenwood, Dillaglio, Hill.
05 - BOD, Vickery, Dillaglio.
09 - Flannery, Henson, Wilkinson.

As all four teams are managed independently of each others... the lions do not have the luxury of man managing their players to make sure they are all as fit as possible for a forthcoming lions tour.

If there are less than half a dozen call ups come the end of the tour I'd be surprised.



Yeah its always the way. The Lions havent done too badly this time around so far anyway.

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