Top 10 Greatest fighters of alltime as of September 2013

First topic message reminder :

Kind of a carry on from the Mayweather thread...........

1. Muhammad Ali
2. Ray Robinson
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Harry Greb
5. Floyd Mayweather
6. Ray Leonard
7. Sam Langford (7. Because he never won a world title...)
8. Bob Fitzsimmons
9. Ezzard Charles
10. Charles Burley (re. no 7)

Note that I don't blame Burley and Langford it's politics........But as Montgomerie and Westwood have shown in golf..the Ultimate prize sometimes brings the ultimate pressure..........

YDKSAB wrote:

Rodney wrote:

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:You're right mate...and Conn boxed his ears off as well..........Before he got COCKY !!

Garbage, watch the fight. It was a very close contest, don't know where this preconceived idea comes from that Louis was being outboxed he wasn't , Louis struggled more with guys who crowded him rather than boxers. He's record speaks for it's self a record number of defences against guys ranked no 1 by the ring.

Cheers Rodders

HYPOCRITE ALERT!!

Joe Louis STRUGGLED with Conn and was LOSING the fight. Same Hypocrites say Louis fought top ranked guys but HATE on Mayweather beating Marquez, Hatton and Mosely all RANKED top TEN fighters when Money May SCHOOLED them.

Joe Louis STRUGGLES to beat a small LIGHT HEAVY like CONN and Mayweather SCHOOLS Marquez, Mosely and Hatton and which guy gets the HATE???

Mayweather beat MORE pound for pound fighters than LOUIS. FACT!

Mayweather RECORD speaks for ITSELF.

Face it bro - PWNED!

Quite a brilliant idea adam, get the wums to announce themselves so we can avoid reading the rest of the post.

Rodney wrote:So you haven't seen the fight then? Louis was ahead on one scorecard.

He also said he didn't train for the last 3 weeks for the fight as he said "he didn't want everyone to think he beat the little guy up"

It wasn't a one sided drumming however way you wish to dress it up.

Cheers Rodders

No he wasn't, Conn was ahead on 2, even on the other.

Fair enough Conn was ahead by 2 rounds on the others, it hardly constitutes to the theory that Conn was boxing Louis ears off and needed a knockout . The rounds were close, you could even have Louis ahead.

Cheers Rodders

Louis admitted the fact he was getting well beaten and when you add in the fact Conn went for the finish and got caught.....

It shows he was taking liberties...

Rod I like you Mate.....But just concede this time..

I'll still respect you in the morning..

Just because I have it to hand, Louis quote:
"Billy Conn gave me my toughest fight. He was an excellent boxer. One thing about that fight. The end of the twelth round, which was Billy's best round, he really hit me. Of course, he wasn't hitting me that hard, but he hit me with a lot of punches. So beginning of the thirteenth round he walked out and said, "Well, Joe, you're in for a tough fight tonight." I'll never forget it, about four or five seconds after he said it he was on the floor. I looked at him and said "You're right". He was a great Light Heavyweight champion."

Come out Writing.

Rodney wrote:Fair enough Conn was ahead by 2 rounds on the others, it hardly constitutes to the theory that Conn was boxing Louis ears off and needed a knockout . The rounds were close, you could even have Louis ahead.

Cheers Rodders

PWNED bro - admit it

Louis was LOSING to a guy he was 30 POUNDS heavier than. Mayweather gets HATE for SCHOOLING smaller guys who practically weigh the same as him and you are DEFENDING Louis for being OUTBOXED by a SMALL LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT???

HATRED for Money Mays TOP RANKED opponents?? Ever heard of BUM OF THE MONTH??? And the HATERS say Floyd CHERRY PICKS?? Bullsheeet man. BULL SHEEET!

Are you adding anything here?

Things are looking up.......Usually by this time People are accusing guys like YKD of being an alias of mine..

The Terror of Tylorstown wrote:Are you adding anything here?

Go talk about heavy metal and bands NOBODY cares about bro. Im talking BOXING here.

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How hasn't Truss been banned yet ....................................

I've no idea ...........................................................

Give it time..........

I've always told Rowley I'd go...... the day Lumbering adds anything to a debate.. 

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Give it time..........

I've always told Rowley I'd go...... the day Lumbering adds anything to a debate.. 

So we're stuck with you, great.

Ray Leonard
Ali
Floyd
Roy Jones
Ray Robbo

https://www.606v2.com/t3012-your-favourite-knock-out

Can I ask Az what has changed in the last couple of years to warrant such a downgrading of Robinson's stock from the last post on this thread where you have him top of the pile. Can half understand Floyd crashing your consideration given he is still fighting but as all the others are retired or long since past their best days would not think they were subject to such radical change.

If I was a cynical chap I would suggest you either did things to be contrarian or you were trying to push a modern is better than old agenda. However I am not such a chap so will say no such thing.

I have Ray Leonard as 1 about a year with Robbo as 2 and Ali 3 or perhaps Ali 2 and Robbo 3. But Floyd has crashed the party and for me RJJ is simply the most talented fighter who ever lived and based on talent alone he is elevated. He beats SRR 10/10 at MW.

azania wrote:I have always had Ray Leonard as 1 with Robbo as 2 and Ali 3 or perhaps Ali 2 and Robbo 3. But Floyd has crashed the party and for me RJJ is simply the most talented fighter who ever lived and based on talent alone he is elevated. He beats SRR 10/10 at MW.

So what has jones done since the article was written to move up your list. And Floyd moved up too, based on what? You hate Canelo and Guerrero is no great shakes.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:I have always had Ray Leonard as 1 with Robbo as 2 and Ali 3 or perhaps Ali 2 and Robbo 3. But Floyd has crashed the party and for me RJJ is simply the most talented fighter who ever lived and based on talent alone he is elevated. He beats SRR 10/10 at MW.

So what has jones done since the article was written to move up your list. And Floyd moved up too, based on what? You hate Canelo and Guerrero is no great shakes.

Only won world titles from MW to HW. Other than that nothing.

Why would I elevate Floyd on beating up on boxers I apparently hate? Engage your brain.

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:I have always had Ray Leonard as 1 with Robbo as 2 and Ali 3 or perhaps Ali 2 and Robbo 3. But Floyd has crashed the party and for me RJJ is simply the most talented fighter who ever lived and based on talent alone he is elevated. He beats SRR 10/10 at MW.

So what has jones done since the article was written to move up your list. And Floyd moved up too, based on what? You hate Canelo and Guerrero is no great shakes.

Only won world titles from MW to HW. Other than that nothing.

Why would I elevate Floyd on beating up on boxers I apparently hate? Engage your brain.

I didn't realise the article was written 10 years ago.

Engage your brain. Brain farts are not allowed.

Any fairminded poster look at Lumbering's posting history..

To reflect on his contribution...

Stay off my threads kiddo........pleaseeeeeeeee:8) 

azania wrote:Engage your brain. Brain farts are not allowed.

When was the article written again...

Fail.

Oh dear LJ

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Any fairminded poster look at Lumbering's posting history..

To reflect on his contribution...

Stay off my threads kiddo........pleaseeeeeeeee:8) 

No - foe me if you don't want to read my posts. Deadbeat.

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

class act..

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

Good grief. That was leftfield. I don't know where to begin with this tripe. I reckon it is your total and utter lack of understanding of anything beyond your nose that leads you to make such a statement.

1) You are the one who wrote that the west should bomb N.Korea to prevent them getting a nuclear bomb and to prevent a nuclear war, completely ignorant (a theme of yours) of the simple fact that NK already have nukes. So bombing a nuclear armed country to prevent a nuclear war. Way to go Einstein.
2) You are the one who suggested that we should deport Abu "Hook Hand" (your words) completely ignorant of the fact that he had already been deported.
3) You are the one who stated that white people are superior than blacks and have superior intelligence saying that it was a FACT (your words) and that blacks were better at sports. Look up the dictionary definition of racism before you accuse others.
4) Stay away from pediatricians.

Mods - apologies for this response, but such an accusation cannot be left unanswered.

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

Good grief. That was leftfield. I don't know where to begin with this tripe. I reckon it is your total and utter lack of understanding of anything beyond your nose that leads you to make such a statement.

1) You are the one who wrote that the west should bomb N.Korea to prevent them getting a nuclear bomb and to prevent a nuclear war, completely ignorant (a theme of yours) of the simple fact that NK already have nukes. So bombing a nuclear armed country to prevent a nuclear war. Way to go Einstein.
2) You are the one who suggested that we should deport Abu "Hook Hand" (your words) completely ignorant of the fact that he had already been deported.
3) You are the one who stated that white people are superior than blacks and have superior intelligence saying that it was a FACT (your words) and that blacks were better at sports. Look up the dictionary definition of racism before you accuse others.
4) Stay away from pediatricians.

Mods - apologies for this response, but such an accusation cannot be left unanswered.

Yes it can....try and exercise a little restraint once in a while. Honestly, some people.....

Certainly good rebuttal..I'll give you that..

DAVE667 wrote:

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

Good grief. That was leftfield. I don't know where to begin with this tripe. I reckon it is your total and utter lack of understanding of anything beyond your nose that leads you to make such a statement.

1) You are the one who wrote that the west should bomb N.Korea to prevent them getting a nuclear bomb and to prevent a nuclear war, completely ignorant (a theme of yours) of the simple fact that NK already have nukes. So bombing a nuclear armed country to prevent a nuclear war. Way to go Einstein.
2) You are the one who suggested that we should deport Abu "Hook Hand" (your words) completely ignorant of the fact that he had already been deported.
3) You are the one who stated that white people are superior than blacks and have superior intelligence saying that it was a FACT (your words) and that blacks were better at sports. Look up the dictionary definition of racism before you accuse others.
4) Stay away from pediatricians.

Mods - apologies for this response, but such an accusation cannot be left unanswered.

Yes it can....try and exercise a little restraint once in a while. Honestly, some people.....

Why? This accusation came about because I said that Rocky has been elevated to mythical status because he was white. I backed it up with evidence from several social academics including a Harvard Professor. That total fool cannot understand much beyond mono syllabic words. And also I am not one for turning the other cheek for it to be slapped again.

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Certainly good rebuttal..I'll give you that..

Damned by his own words. Instead of improving his argument, he raised his voice. I await his shouts (probaly on another thread no doubt).

Hope this thread gets locked now. It's done.

Time you reached mod status......Then our threads would be in your worthy hands..

TRUSSMAN66 wrote:Certainly good rebuttal..I'll give you that..

This site needs an emoticon of a yellow bald man with sunglasses stirring a pot.

You should go for it. My modding skills involved winding up the whole board into a state of frenzy. But I fear you're not a Guardian reader type which is what is required to do the job.

Polly Toynbee is my kinda girl..

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

Good grief. That was leftfield. I don't know where to begin with this tripe. I reckon it is your total and utter lack of understanding of anything beyond your nose that leads you to make such a statement.

1) You are the one who wrote that the west should bomb N.Korea to prevent them getting a nuclear bomb and to prevent a nuclear war, completely ignorant (a theme of yours) of the simple fact that NK already have nukes. So bombing a nuclear armed country to prevent a nuclear war. Way to go Einstein.
2) You are the one who suggested that we should deport Abu "Hook Hand" (your words) completely ignorant of the fact that he had already been deported.
3) You are the one who stated that white people are superior than blacks and have superior intelligence saying that it was a FACT (your words) and that blacks were better at sports. Look up the dictionary definition of racism before you accuse others.
4) Stay away from pediatricians.

Mods - apologies for this response, but such an accusation cannot be left unanswered.

Touched a nerve?

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:

Lumbering_Jack wrote:

azania wrote:Oh dear LJ

Nearly 20k posts and all you've contributed is your vile racism.

Well done.

Good grief. That was leftfield. I don't know where to begin with this tripe. I reckon it is your total and utter lack of understanding of anything beyond your nose that leads you to make such a statement.

1) You are the one who wrote that the west should bomb N.Korea to prevent them getting a nuclear bomb and to prevent a nuclear war, completely ignorant (a theme of yours) of the simple fact that NK already have nukes. So bombing a nuclear armed country to prevent a nuclear war. Way to go Einstein.
2) You are the one who suggested that we should deport Abu "Hook Hand" (your words) completely ignorant of the fact that he had already been deported.
3) You are the one who stated that white people are superior than blacks and have superior intelligence saying that it was a FACT (your words) and that blacks were better at sports. Look up the dictionary definition of racism before you accuse others.
4) Stay away from pediatricians.

Mods - apologies for this response, but such an accusation cannot be left unanswered.

Touched a nerve?

No. You lack both the wit or intelligence to do so. But I do dislike ignorance, so I suppose your ignorance did.

Maybe you guys should leave it.........

Think you just need to calm down and stop making stuff up.

When Truss is the voice of reason on a thread you know things are bad

Don't lock it till he tells us what I've been making up.

Shame more people don't conduct themselves with more class and respect like me and that great oaf TRUSSMAN

Why thank you..

My pleasure...(it's not, but it doesn't hurt to be nice once every five years)

Don't accuse me of doing anything wrong please. It was just a gentle rebuttal. Nothing more. But I also would like to know what stuff Truss has been making up  

Oh dear.

Indeed.

azania wrote:Don't accuse me of doing anything wrong please. It was just a gentle rebuttal. Nothing more. But I also would like to know what stuff Truss has been making up  

Chest size, how much he benches, all that tripe.....

You never know. But when you get someone with neanderthal like intelligence the question has to be asked.

I don't bench...

Let's all calm down and Dave can make us a nice cup of tea..