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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:47 am

according to eddie hearn on twitter matchroom are to announce a new signing on Thursday any ideas on who this could be?

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Post by bhb001 Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:52 am

Cleverley? Very much doubt that, though

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Post by catchweight Tue Oct 08, 2013 10:55 am

Jamie McDonnell maybe.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:01 am

bhb001 wrote:Cleverley? Very much doubt that, though
I doubt that as well clev seems very loyal to warren

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Post by Pedro147 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:06 am

James De Gale?

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:09 am

Pedro147 wrote:James De Gale?
that would seem strange as degale already has a fight planned in November with hennessy

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Post by Pedro147 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:12 am

wheelchair1991 wrote:
Pedro147 wrote:James De Gale?
that would seem strange as degale already has a fight planned in November with hennessy
In a shopping centre against an unnamed opponent. I think it will be someone who isn't getting enough fights. JDG or Martin Murray or something like that. I know that both have fights planned but these things can be changed and contracts would have cancellation clauses.

However I'm probably wrong about both of the above, just guessing.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:16 am

Martin Murray would be good.

Peter Quillin's management were complaining a few weeks back that they'd worked really hard to tee up a fight with Murray, even willing to come to the UK, but that the Hatton CEO was useless and kept scuppering it. Said Hatton himself wasn't the issue, and that they had a good relationship with Ricky, just the CEO was a numpty.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:16 am

I think you could be right with Martin Murray

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:18 am

TopHat24/7 wrote:Martin Murray would be good.

Peter Quillin's management were complaining a few weeks back that they'd worked really hard to tee up a fight with Murray, even willing to come to the UK, but that the Hatton CEO was useless and kept scuppering it.  Said Hatton himself wasn't the issue, and that they had a good relationship with Ricky, just the CEO was a numpty.
I saw that too its kinda strange that ricky would employ somebody like that if its true

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Post by catchweight Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:22 am

I thought Murray had some fight lined up against an Aussie guy and if he won that he would be up against Golovkin next.

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Post by Rowley Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:23 am

Long shot but could be Fury. Is already working with them on the Haye fight and he may have seen the hype and purses Sky can deliver and thought he is better off with them. Would agree though that Murray seems the smart pick.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:29 am

catchweight wrote:I thought Murray had some fight lined up against an Aussie guy and if he won that he would be up against Golovkin next.
saw him on ringside a couple of weeks ago he didn't seem keen on having to go to Australia to fight

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:50 am

Yea I would say it's Murray.

Can't see it being Fury as it would be a massive rumour by now.

Any big name thats about to be unveiled seems to be leaked more often than not. The lesser known names are normally kept under wraps.

Would be a decent scoop to bag Murray. Hatton promos dont seem to have a clue what to do with him at the minute. Hearn would at least deliver decent fights in the UK for him rather that pack him off to Germany, Argentina, Australia each time.

Defo won't be Cleverly. There is nothing in the world that Matchroom can do to convince people he will be a major player anymore.
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Post by KingMonkey Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:54 am

Whoever it is its good news for most of us as we'll get to see him on Sky. Hoping it'll be Murray as there are plenty of decent fights out there for him.

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Post by catchweight Tue Oct 08, 2013 11:55 am

Murrays got the three world title shots and is close to a shot with Golovkin. I dont think he can complain too much about lack of opportunities. Hearn is packing Barker off for his world title matches. No difference.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:03 pm

But he delivered for Barker at least. Do you really think he would have sent Barker to that football stadium in Argentina to be spat at like Murray was?

Barker got the Martinez fight in Atlantic City. I would say Hearn had a good hand to play in that location. And he didn't send Barker to Australia either, which Hatton is for Murray.

Even though Barker has been packed off, those fights where at least not in the opponents backyard.
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Post by Rowley Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:09 pm

From what I can gather Hearn gave Barker the option with regard to travelling to Germany. The reality is though the Germans were offering him way more than he would have got over here and like Hearn says a million is life changing kind of money. Given he has also managed to get him a rematch clause in the contract think he has done as much as can be expected to protect Barker.

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Post by catchweight Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:12 pm

Yes I think he would have sent Barker to Argentina. Hes sending Barker to Germany. Wherever the money is to be made. I dont think Murray has too much to complain about. Hes going to have to travel to get his title shots.

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Post by Guest Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:35 pm

Murray wasn't sent to Argentina to get spat at, he went there because it's one of the few places Murray can get a bleedin' visa to fight. He whinges and cries about Hatton not securing him a big fight then conveniently forgets that, WITHOUT a belt, he's nothing to offer anyone and therefore he's going to have to travel to face the big boys and the biggest of the lot was Martinez. As Champ, Martinez wanted a fight in Agrentina and Murray wasn't going to get into America so what were his options?

Murray is coming across as an ungrateful little **** of late and should remember that it's his own stupidity that caused him to end up with a criminal recrd which now inhibits his progress as a fighter NOT anything his promotor is failing to do.

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:42 pm

Murray HAD to go overseas and accept the demands of the guys he was facing. There is no negotiating, either take the fight or you're not getting it.

Barker has the belt so they would have the final say on where he goes and I'm sure they chose to go to Germany, not forced to go.

Murray may have to travel to get another shot if he's with Hearn, but at least Murray will have somebody who can at least get a little leg room when it comes to the conditions of the fight. By the looks of things (and what Quillan mentioned) Hatton Promotions are a shambles at this...hence things falling apart for them.

What is Murray's criminal record for anyway? Must be a bad one if he can't get a visa.
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:47 pm

Dunno but some lad from the X Factor didn't get to go see Gary Barlow in New York due to Visa issues. He's some young wannabe gangsta type but now his band are through (should have put a spoiler alert there) he's still allowed to sing on the show. Thing is, they're making it sound like Barlow has moved Heaven and Earth for this to happen and are equating it with Terry Waite's effort to free Hostages in Beiruit all those years ago

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:50 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Dunno but some lad from the X Factor didn't get to go see Gary Barlow in New York due to Visa issues. He's some young wannabe gangsta type but now his band are through (should have put a spoiler alert there) he's still allowed to sing on the show. Thing is, they're making it sound like Barlow has moved Heaven and Earth for this to happen and are equating it with Terry Waite's effort to free Hostages in Beiruit all those years ago
Maybe Barrow sang to border control and they gave him the visa approval to shut him up
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Post by Guest Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:53 pm

No, the kid can't travel to the USA but I fail to see this being a problem in the future as they're unlikely to win and need to go to America for any rason...unless McDonald's are doing an exchange programme.

My money's on the 16yr old Scottish lad

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Post by hazharrison Tue Oct 08, 2013 12:55 pm

"Swifty" Smith isn't it?

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Post by STC Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:15 pm

DAVE667 wrote:Dunno but some lad from the X Factor didn't get to go see Gary Barlow in New York due to Visa issues. He's some young wannabe gangsta type but now his band are through (should have put a spoiler alert there) he's still allowed to sing on the show. Thing is, they're making it sound like Barlow has moved Heaven and Earth for this to happen and are equating it with Terry Waite's effort to free Hostages in Beiruit all those years ago
If it ends with Barlow being held captive, alone, chained to a radiator, somewhere in Beiruit, for 5 years then I'll give him the credit her deserves.
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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:36 pm

DAVE667 wrote:No, the kid can't travel to the USA but I fail to see this being a problem in the future as they're unlikely to win and need to go to America for any rason...unless McDonald's are doing an exchange programme.

My money's on the 16yr old Scottish lad
My money is staying in my pocket and my TV is staying well clear of that tripe
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Post by Strongback Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:58 pm

Heard a whisper Price is looking for a fresh start.

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Post by TopHat24/7 Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:28 pm

Would be a bit random as he seems close to the Boxnation lot - coming is as pundit for example.

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Post by Strongback Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:38 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:Would be a bit random as he seems close to the Boxnation lot - coming is as pundit for example.

He's been on Ringside as well.

I just saw a small bit of speculation on it on a website.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:08 pm

My money would be in Nicole if she was a lady of the night.

She is smoking.

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Post by TRUSSMAN66 Tue Oct 08, 2013 3:23 pm

Bad news for macklin.............Who's future now is over here...........

Could find himself frozen out............After all probably not as bigger prospect as Barker who's champ and Murray who's the best of the lot.......

BJS coming up on the rails also.

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Post by azania Tue Oct 08, 2013 8:15 pm

mobilemaster8 wrote:My money would be in Nicole if she was a lady of the night.

She is smoking.
It wouldn't be my money that would be in her. Whistle 

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Post by ShahenshahG Tue Oct 08, 2013 9:24 pm

azania wrote:
mobilemaster8 wrote:My money would be in Nicole if she was a lady of the night.

She is smoking.
It wouldn't be my money that would be in her. Whistle 
it would be artificial in either case Az

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Post by OasisBFC Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:03 pm

wheelchair1991 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Martin Murray would be good.

Peter Quillin's management were complaining a few weeks back that they'd worked really hard to tee up a fight with Murray, even willing to come to the UK, but that the Hatton CEO was useless and kept scuppering it.  Said Hatton himself wasn't the issue, and that they had a good relationship with Ricky, just the CEO was a numpty.
I saw that too its kinda strange that ricky would employ somebody like that if its true
ricky is the CEO of hatton promotions.

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Post by mobilemaster8 Wed Oct 09, 2013 10:31 pm

Hahahahaha Az/Shah

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Post by TopHat24/7 Wed Oct 09, 2013 11:03 pm

OasisBFC wrote:
wheelchair1991 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Martin Murray would be good.

Peter Quillin's management were complaining a few weeks back that they'd worked really hard to tee up a fight with Murray, even willing to come to the UK, but that the Hatton CEO was useless and kept scuppering it.  Said Hatton himself wasn't the issue, and that they had a good relationship with Ricky, just the CEO was a numpty.
I saw that too its kinda strange that ricky would employ somebody like that if its true
ricky is the CEO of hatton promotions.
not according to quillans team.

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Post by 6oldenbhoy Thu Oct 10, 2013 7:55 am

Jamie McDonnell severed ties with Hobson yesterday. You would assume it's him.


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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:22 am

Yeah, from the sounds of it, its McDonnell, he will want a TV Network, considering he has a title

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Post by KingMonkey Thu Oct 10, 2013 8:55 am

Macklin training with Gallagher....

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Post by AlexHuckerby Thu Oct 10, 2013 9:09 am

Ooft, KM, he's short of options right now at DiBella... Good call.

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Post by wheelchair1991 Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:04 pm

according to boxrec Jamie mcDonnell has cut ties with his promoter Dennis Hobson. Also Stephen Smith has terminated his contract with Frank Warren although as usual Warren disputes this(ricky burns revisited) so its one of those two apparently what are your thoughts?

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Post by hazharrison Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:07 pm

McDonnell has left Hobson? I'd be hugely surprised considering the investment Hobson put in.

I said Smith the other day (odd move considering the brotherhood angle).

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Post by owen10ozzy Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:15 pm

http://asia.eurosport.com/boxing/mcdonnell-cuts-ties-with-hobson-new-matchroom-signing-unveiled-today_sto3957781/story.shtml

Be very surprised if it isn't McDonnell or at a push Stephen Smith....either way the news is not good as it would appear that Frank Warren/Queensbury Promotions have lost another 2 fighters. With Hearn also getting in on the International fight scene now (Bradley/Marquez: Cotto/Rodriguez: Alvardo v Provodnikov: Golovokin v Stevens) their must be some concern in the Frank Warren/Boxnation camp.


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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:31 pm

Why would Warren even want Stephen Smith on his books. Hardly an arena filler (or potential one). Let him walk.

McDonnell might even get those 17 people who bought tickets for his world title fight to come back and watch him again.
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Post by hazharrison Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:33 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote:Why would Warren even want Stephen Smith on his books. Hardly an arena filler (or potential one). Let him walk.

McDonnell might even get those 17 people who bought tickets for his world title fight to come back and watch him again.
British champion -- decent draw. He can build shows around the three brothers (four including the prospect).

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Post by Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:37 pm

Got flattened when he stepped up against Lee Selby. His level is there for all to see.

Just don't see what can be done with him (long term), McDonnell maybe can cash in a bit with Hearn, but he will not make the type of money a world champion should. Nobody knows him outside of his own town.
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Post by hazharrison Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:39 pm

He looked good against Buckland and was a stand out amateur.

If McDonnell signs with Hearns he'll be fed to the lions.

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Post by Scottrf Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:44 pm

TopHat24/7 wrote:
OasisBFC wrote:
wheelchair1991 wrote:
TopHat24/7 wrote:Martin Murray would be good.

Peter Quillin's management were complaining a few weeks back that they'd worked really hard to tee up a fight with Murray, even willing to come to the UK, but that the Hatton CEO was useless and kept scuppering it.  Said Hatton himself wasn't the issue, and that they had a good relationship with Ricky, just the CEO was a numpty.
I saw that too its kinda strange that ricky would employ somebody like that if its true
ricky is the CEO of hatton promotions.
not according to quillans team.
They are a bit confused. They are moaning about the Director of Boxing, Hatton is CEO.

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Post by Rowley Thu Oct 10, 2013 12:45 pm

Reborn-DeeMcK-Reborn wrote: McDonnell maybe can cash in a bit with Hearn, but he will not make the type of money a world champion should. Nobody knows him outside of his own town.
Chicken and egg situation though. Nobody knows McDonnell because he is stuck with a promoter without a TV deal. His fight with Ceja was a cracker, if he can deliver fights like that with anything like regularity he will get an audience. Think people need to be realistic, not every fighter is going to be Ricky Hatton. Jamie drew 3,000 to his last fight, it only looked so few because the arena could hold way more.

I accept 3,000 is hardly breaking box office records but he is a likeable kid, reasonably entertaining to watch and from a town not exactly flushed with boxing success so if promoted right no reason he cannot draw to some level. Personally I hope it is Jamie as he deserves a wider audience.

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