Olly Morgan Retires

HongKongCherry wrote:There's a time and a place Scrumpy and I feel you were misguided to post that.

VietGwentRevisited wrote:Real shame, though to be expected. Hope his coaching career goes well.

I suspect we will see more of this as modern rugby gets more and more physical.

A team of players who could have shone at RWC 2015 but had to retire early would be a talented one.

GeordieFalcon wrote:Is he a big earner at Glos. Will that extra money go in to the forwards or backs...im assuming the forwards?

gregortree wrote:I wont mention Sarries pay 'cap'.

Bathite wrote:

VietGwentRevisited wrote:Real shame, though to be expected. Hope his coaching career goes well.

I suspect we will see more of this as modern rugby gets more and more physical.

A team of players who could have shone at RWC 2015 but had to retire early would be a talented one.

Now that's a challenge...

1
2 Mears
3
4 Blaze
5
6 Dan Ward-Smith
7 Rees
8 Forrester
9 Ellis
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11
12
13 Hipkiss - at a push
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15 Morgan

fa0019 wrote:I wonder how much insurance payouts have to do with retirements?

Steve Thompson got over 500K GBP for retiring early on insurance payouts and a medical signoff.
Tom Rees was able to pay for his medical studies with his payout.

Are players weighing up a big lump sum vs. a couple more years playing when they realise injuries are starting to take its toll and that they are no longer in test match rugby?

If they play up to the end of their contract they will get no insurance money. If they leave mid-contract on medical advice they will get a bumper pay day.

How many pro rugby players aged 28+ after a long injury are going beyond medical advice to keep on playing? I imagine quite a fair few.

Not being cynical but even 100k is a lot of money for a pro rugby player.

ChequeredJersey wrote:

Bathite wrote:

VietGwentRevisited wrote:Real shame, though to be expected. Hope his coaching career goes well.

I suspect we will see more of this as modern rugby gets more and more physical.

A team of players who could have shone at RWC 2015 but had to retire early would be a talented one.

Now that's a challenge...

1 Trevor Woodman
2 Mears
3
4 Blaze
5
6 Dan Ward-Smith
7 Rees
8 Forrester
9 Ellis
10
11
12
13 Hipkiss - at a push
14
15 Morgan

ChequeredJersey wrote:

fa0019 wrote:I wonder how much insurance payouts have to do with retirements?

Steve Thompson got over 500K GBP for retiring early on insurance payouts and a medical signoff.
Tom Rees was able to pay for his medical studies with his payout.

Are players weighing up a big lump sum vs. a couple more years playing when they realise injuries are starting to take its toll and that they are no longer in test match rugby?

If they play up to the end of their contract they will get no insurance money. If they leave mid-contract on medical advice they will get a bumper pay day.

How many pro rugby players aged 28+ after a long injury are going beyond medical advice to keep on playing? I imagine quite a fair few.

Not being cynical but even 100k is a lot of money for a pro rugby player.

To be fair, medical studies as an undergrad in the UK will only have cost Tom £54,000, for which he would have been eligible for a partial loan anyway

fa0019 wrote:

ChequeredJersey wrote:

fa0019 wrote:I wonder how much insurance payouts have to do with retirements?

Steve Thompson got over 500K GBP for retiring early on insurance payouts and a medical signoff.
Tom Rees was able to pay for his medical studies with his payout.

Are players weighing up a big lump sum vs. a couple more years playing when they realise injuries are starting to take its toll and that they are no longer in test match rugby?

If they play up to the end of their contract they will get no insurance money. If they leave mid-contract on medical advice they will get a bumper pay day.

How many pro rugby players aged 28+ after a long injury are going beyond medical advice to keep on playing? I imagine quite a fair few.

Not being cynical but even 100k is a lot of money for a pro rugby player.

To be fair, medical studies as an undergrad in the UK will only have cost Tom £54,000, for which he would have been eligible for a partial loan anyway

Perhaps costs of living were included???

6 years - Fees 9K (+54k yes)
Cost of living - what a further 10K a year min???

Bathite wrote:Steve Thompson had to pay that 500k back to the insurance company when he came out of retirement. Very brave on many levels!

gregortree wrote:If I only had one player to spend it on it would be a top class TH, a position which commands one of the highest squad wages. 2nd up would be a top class lock.  I wont mention Sarries pay 'cap'.
On a different tack I would point to the excellent teamwork shown by Exeter forwards whose combined pay is doubtless much less than those of more illustrious packs, but who are well motivated and extremely effective as a unit.

HongKongCherry wrote:Knight has been plagued with niggly injuries, so hasn't built the level of fitness required. Many feel he will be our TH of the future, but he's not quite there yet.  As the article gregor posted states I feel our major failing is down to the collective effort.  Kalamafoni for all his excellence doesn't provide much stability to the prop and in Hudson and Lokotui we don't have scrummaging locks - as they invariably play 5, it means our TH is being exposed.  Harden the other option has gone backwards at an alarming rate.  It is rather bizarre that this time last season we had the most effective scrum in the Jeff.  Tigers tore us apart in December and ever since then the wheels have fallen off.