HC, Pool 2, Round 2: Glasgow Warriors v Exeter Chiefs

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Glasgow Warriors   v Exeter Chiefs  

Sunday 20 October 2013, 14:00
Scotstoun Stadium, Glasgow
 
Not on bloody telly

Referee: Romain Poite (France)
Touch Judge 1: Christophe Berdos (France)
Touch Judge 2: Tual Trainini (France)
Citing Commissioner: Jean-Etienne Bernard (France)

 
A. Current Standings:
Team/Played/Won/Drawn/Lost/Points For/Points Against/BPs/Points 
 

1	Toulon	1	1	0	0	51	28	1	5
2	Exeter	1	1	0	0	44	29	1	5
3	Cardiff Blues	1	0	0	1	29	44	1	1
4	Glasgow	1	0	0	1	28	51	1	1

 
B. Previous Match Line-ups:
 
1. Glasgow
 
(against Toulon)
 
Sean Maitland, Tommy Seymour, Mark Bennett, Alex Dunbar, Nikola Matawalu, Rhubarb Jackson, Henry Pyrgos, Ryan Grant, Dougie Hall, Jon Welsh, Jonny Gray, Al Kellock, Tim Swinson, Chris Fusaro, Josh Strauss.
 
Replacements: McGuigan for Dunbar (32), van der Merwe for Pyrgos (41), Low for Grant (66), MacArthur for Hall (52), Kalman for Welsh (52), Vernon for Swinson (52), Weir for Strauss (75).
 
2. Exeter
 
(against Cardiff Blues)
 
Phil Dollman, Matt Jess, Ian Whitten, Jason Shoemark, Fetu'u Vainikolo, Gareth Steenson, Dave Lewis; Brett Sturgess, Chris Whitehead, Hoani Tui, Dean Mumm (capt), Damian Welch, Tom Johnson, Ben White, Dave Ewers
 
Replacements: Jack Yeandle for Whitehead (48), Carl Rimmer for Tui (51), Don Armand for Welch (62), Kai Horstmann for Johnson (30), Haydn Thomas for Lewis (48), Henry Slade for Steenson (56), Sireli Naqelevuki for Shoemark (57)
 
C. Form (last 6 games):
 
1. Glasgow
 
Toulon - Glasgow 51-28
Scarlets - Glasgow 12-17
Zebre - Glasgow 17-24
Glasgow - Leinster 12-6
Ulster - Glasgow 12-13
Glasgow - Cardiff Blues 22-15
 
2. Exeter
 
Exeter - Cardiff Blues 44-29
Gloucester - Exeter 12-29
Exeter - Leicester 9-21
London Irish - Exeter 23-29
Exeter - Wasps 30-26
Northampton - Exeter 38-11
 
D. Teams:
 
1. Glasgow
 
15. Sean Maitland
14. Tommy Seymour
13. Byron McGuigan
12. Gabriel Ascarate
11. DTH van der Merwe
10. Ruaridh Jackson
9. Niko Matawalu
 
1. Ryan Grant
2. Pat MacArthur
3. Ed Kalman
4. Tim Swinson
5. Al Kellock (Captain)
6. Rob Harley
7. Tyrone Holmes
8. Josh Strauss
 
16. Dougie Hall
17. Jerry Yanuyanutawa
18. Moray Low
19. Jonny Gray
20. Richie Vernon
21. Chris Cusiter
22. Duncan Weir
23. Mark Bennett
 
2. Exeter
 
15 Phil Dollman
14 Ian Whitten
13 Jason Shoemark
12 Sam Hill
11 Matt Jess
10 Gareth Steenson
9 Dave Lewis
 
8 Dave Ewers
7 Ben White
6 Tom Johnson
5 Damian Welch
4 Dean Mumm (capt)
3 Hoani Tui
2 Chris Whitehead
1 Ben Moon
 
16 Jack Yeandle
17 Brett Sturgess
18 Alex Brown
19 Don Armand
20 Kai Horstmann
21 Haydn Thomas
22 Henry Slade
23 Fetu'u Vainikolo
 
E. Parliamo Glasgow:
 
Alphabetty Spaghetti - D.T.H. van der Merwe, wing
Angel - Gabriel Ascarate, centre
Angela - Jon Welsh, prop
Barry - Byron McGuigan, wing
Big Boab - (see Ginger Tackle Monster, the)
Big Mike - (see Coo, the)
Big Naka - Leone Nakarawa, lock/loosie
Bluto - Josh Strauss, loosie/no.8
Centre, the - (see Lesser Messiah, the)
Coo, the - Michael Cusack, prop
Cooseetah - (see Cus)
Cus - Chris Cusiter, scrum half
DTH - (see Alphabetty Spaghetti)
Flippy - (see Toonie)
Fozzy - Christopher Fusaro, loosie
Furra Lineeeee - Peter Horne, centre
Ginger Tackle Monster, the - Rob Harley, loosie
Guns - Tim Swinson, lock
Henners - Henry Pyrgos, scrum half
Hoggy - Stuart Hogg, full back/wing/centre
Ickle Jon - Jonny Gray, lock
Jedi - James Eddie, loosie
Lesser Messiah, the - Richie Vernon, loosie/no.8
Mark of Nazareth - (see Messiah, the)
Meatball, the - Duncan Weir, fly half
Messiah, the/ - Mark Bennett, centre
Niko - Nikola Matawalu, scrum half
Niko's Mate - Jerry Yanuyanutawa, prop
No Maits - Sean Maitland, wing
Rhubarb - Ruaridh Jackson, fly half
Ruck Inspector, the - Alastair Kellock, lock
Schlong - Sean Lamont, centre/wing
Sherlock - Tyrone Holmes, loosie
Shrek - Gordon Reid, prop
Toonie - Gregor Peter John Townsend MBE, head coach
Wee P - Pat MacArthur, hooker
Weegie from Fiji, the - (see Niko)

What's the score?

Good win in what was a vital game.

Worry about the scrum as Kalman going off uninjured after 32 min suggest it wasn't really working.

Sherlock motm, must have made at least 20 tackles!

20-16 Glasgow

VinceWLB wrote:Good win in what was a vital game.

Worry about the scrum as Kalman going off uninjured after 32 min suggest it wasn't really working.

Sherlock motm, must have made at least 20 tackles!

20-16 Glasgow

According to the commentary Kalman had been knocked out

Hope Ed's all right - we aren't exactly tripping over fit props at the moment.

Sounds like a good win in fairly stinky conditions.

On the train back from Scotstoun.

All I'll say at this point is... We can add Roman Poite to the long list if referees who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. It's not normal for four tries to be scored, and to go to the TMO each time. It's not normal to fail to spot a knock on when the ball lands three meters forward of the carrying player. It's not normal to award a yellow card for a professional foul one meter from the line, yet not even consider whether the foul prevented a certain try.

Still, how 'bout them Glasgow Warriors?

Longer analysis when I'm home.

MacKnocked-on wrote:
According to the commentary Kalman had been knocked out

Thanks for the info.
Hope he is ok.

Didn't expect to see Exeter topping this pool after two rounds.

Rugby Fan wrote:Didn't expect to see Exeter topping this pool after two rounds.

Well, December will be interesting. Blues will have very little preparation time for their home match with Glasgow, so should Toulon perform as poorly on the road again, I fully expect us to see Glasgow topping the group come Christmas. And who would have thought that at half time last week?

What looked like a predictable group - is now very, very interesting.

I was at the game and had no issue with the ref. the yellow card incident was far away from me but it was a pile up n the corner with plenty of defence around - I can't think it would have been a penalty try. The game was spoilt a bit by the weather and Glasgow made far too many errors gifting Exeter at lest 6 points.

Good win for Glasgow. Lovely second try.

TJ, from what I could see (I was about 10m away), Ascarate dinked the ball past the defenders (actually a very well-weighted kick) and was running past them when he was tackled off the ball - not even blocked by a lazy runner, but genuinely tackled. I might have imagined it tho...

Wouldn't want to be seen to be criticising the referee...

No I saw that OK - and it was a clear pen and a yellow - but I was a long way away. Was the yellow for the block?

No issues with critising the ref if they make mistakes - its just the endless one eyed whinging some post5ers indulge in that annoys me

This is a cracking group. It really could end up in any order!

Useful point for the Chiefs today but Glasgow will be pleased to get the home win.

Really can't call the upcoming games.

Bravo Glasgow, just the result needed to throw this group wide open. Felt Exe had the first half first half, then the Warriors got back on top, I felt happy with the scores at half-time, the Warriors motored for 30 mins, but went to sleep to allow us that LBP. Yellow card - defo, anything else = nonsense.

Host = c21st; outcome = magnificent

I just watched the Sky 'highlights'.

They showed Swinson's try, then Seymour's disallowed try, and then... ignored Holmes' actual try.

Honestly, how they call themselves 'professional' is beyond me.

So....

Were you a Chief or an ... Sweatie today?

They probably chose shots that didn't show much of the BT Sport logos on the shirts.

IanBru wrote:On the train back from Scotstoun.

All I'll say at this point is... We can add Roman Poite to the long list if referees who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. It's not normal for four tries to be scored, and to go to the TMO each time. It's not normal to fail to spot a knock on when the ball lands three meters forward of the carrying player. It's not normal to award a yellow card for a professional foul one meter from the line, yet not even consider whether the foul prevented a certain try.

Still, how 'bout them Glasgow Warriors?

Longer analysis when I'm home.

Yep Bru. Poite is The Complete and Utter Dick A fud extraodinaire ! I thing getting up there with Clownshoes in the total Fud Wenker stakes. He has not the first clue what is going on.

Still despite that total man sausage we won and remain in it. IRB need to look at him (Poite) very closely.

Strauss -immense Holmse -immense. Harley - destroyed their back row.

Cyril wrote:This is a cracking group. It really could end up in any order!

Useful point for the Chiefs today but Glasgow will be pleased to get the home win.

Really can't call the upcoming games.

Unlike giant bell end Moore !  

I fear that the bonus points may come back to haunt Glasgow. Exeter getting that bonus point was good for them and bad for glasgow. A good win even tho for glasgow on a wet day that negated much of both sides attacking ability. Glasgow made too many mistakes and gifted too many points to Exeter and it could prove to be thier undoing in the final reckoning. Nice to see Niko back at SH tho - and toonie must now play him in every important game

21st Century Schizoid Man wrote:

IanBru wrote:On the train back from Scotstoun.

All I'll say at this point is... We can add Roman Poite to the long list if referees who have absolutely no idea what they are doing. It's not normal for four tries to be scored, and to go to the TMO each time. It's not normal to fail to spot a knock on when the ball lands three meters forward of the carrying player. It's not normal to award a yellow card for a professional foul one meter from the line, yet not even consider whether the foul prevented a certain try.

Still, how 'bout them Glasgow Warriors?

Longer analysis when I'm home.

Yep Bru.    Poite is The Complete and Utter Dick     A fud extraodinaire !   I thing getting up there with Clownshoes in the total Fud Wenker stakes.  He has not the first clue what is going on.

Still despite that total man sausage we won and remain in it.   IRB need to look at him (Poite) very closely.

Strauss -immense  Holmse -immense.   Harley - destroyed their back row.  

Thanks for the information, People Who Were Lucky Enough To Attend.

Sherlock, Big Boab and Bluto has to be the most defensively brutal loose forward combo in the league. No real co-incidence that two of them are from Seth Efrica and the other is from, er, that other hotbed of rugby brutality, Crewe.

If you'd given me a LBP at Toulon and a home win against the Chiefs (even without a BP) at the beginning of October, I would have taken them. I am not too disappointed. Particularly as the Blues did us a favour and popped the Galacticos invincibility bubble. It is eminently clear that they don't like it up 'em, Captain Mainwaring.

Will start a thread for the Munster game soon - this is going to be our biggest challenge by far this season.

I thought it was a pretty strange game. Despite the full house the game never really seemed to get going, certainly in the first half. Crowd were quite and the game rarely sparked.

Second half was better and I thought the final outcome of the game was a fair enough reflection.

As has been mentioned our back row was excellent and it was great to see Holmes put in such a good performance. Strauss put in his best performance this season.

Niko back to Scrum Half was an improvement. Thought he over did the novelty plays a tad yesterday, he is now going for the highlight play in almost every touch he gets. Still though overall he is a joy to watch.

Thats Niko tho isn't it? Its pointless to try to get him to play conventionally - you have to give him free reign. He will do sublime and ridiculous things when he plays - you just have to hope he confuses the opposition more than he confuses his own players

Dorothy_Mantooth wrote:I thought it was a pretty strange game.  Despite the full house the game never really seemed to get going, certainly in the first half.  Crowd were quite and the game rarely sparked.

I was sitting near the main Exeter support - they had drums and chants to get the support to make some noise. all the Glasgow fans had was a forlorn mooing noise "Glaaaasgoooooooooow"

Glasgow ( and edinburgh) fans need to replicate the chants - someone needs to get some songs / chants going - anyone want to get some drums into the crowd? All those glasgow patter merchants should be able to come up with something better than the sound of an injured cow. Something to get the crowd going.

There was one instance where he slid along the ground to catch a cheeky chipped ball, got up, beat the onrushing defender, chipped ahead, was taken high (drawing the penalty, then proceeded to take the catching Exeter player high as well.

All this in the space of five seconds.

It wasn't the best game from Nico - as Dot says, he was trying to force things too much, and was slightly random (and not in a good way) the whole match. Despite this, even on his worst day, he's still the most original, effortless, and shocking (both good and bad) player I've ever seen. Not many other players could have produced that pirouette and offload for Seinson's try, and there were enough examples of genius to satisfy me overall.

Duncan Weir - he came on in the second half but a winger went off I think - so Weir slotted into 10 and Rhubarb - did he go into the centres?

What about Weirs contribution - any thoughts? He is a player I want to see back to his best the best 10 in Scotland I believe but has had two years of duff selection and injury that has robbed him of the chance to prove it.

From what I saw a bit of a mixed bag. A couple of tremendous kicks from hand, a couple of poor ones and a couple of great passes

Stats are out: http://www.espnscrum.com/heineken-cup-2013-14/rugby/match/191639.html

15 tackles from Sherlock! 6 more than the Ginger Tackle Monster himself!

Also stats suggets that clearly the better team won.

VinceWLB wrote:Stats are out: http://www.espnscrum.com/heineken-cup-2013-14/rugby/match/191639.html

15 tackles from Sherlock! 6 more than the Ginger Tackle Monster himself!

Also stats suggets that clearly the better team won.

On the day, it did

Ah ye are a true gent ASBO. We did murder your back row in the second 40 tbh.