Why we should not get involved with the English.

Good article by Dr Gwyn today. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/gwyn-jones-anglo-welsh-competition-not-6394750

An Anglo welsh will only be a short term solution to fill some free time for the English clubs until a better money spinner comes along.we would destroy professional rugby in the other Celtic nation's, devalue the 6 nations and be dropped at short notice when the money men suss out that cash strapped sides from Gwent are not the draw they expected.all sides in this dispute need to work together to securea future for the northern hemisphere, we cannot let people who's interest is only money and public exposure hold the game to ransom or the future will be bleak for all concerned.

Undoubtedly the PRL will continue to try and get the RCC going again next season.  If they are successful 6 teams from 16 in the Anglo Welsh League would qualify.  Looking at the performances of the regions in the rabo this season, and taking relegation into consideration it really could be the end of Welsh rugby.  The RRW and the likes of Ryan Jones are being suckered and all they can see is this idealistic vision of being in this fantastic league with the English and competing well in it.  They are naive fools.

horse. gate. bolted. doesnt matter what the PRL are doing, when the top14 new TV deal is likely to be EUR100m per annum.

but i see there are still some people for whom any deal with anyone english is a bad deal.

this whole mess wouldnt have arisen if the welsh regions didnt feel like they were getting completely screwed and undermined by the musicman. faced with extinction, of course they are going to consider alternatives.

Well its obvious that those in Ireland think it is a bad idea as it would be a huge blow for their clubs.

Welsh Magician wrote:Well its obvious that those in Ireland think it is a bad idea as it would be a huge blow for their clubs.

It would be a blow as it effects the Rabo, but I'm not sure I would agree it would be huge. All depends on what viable alternatives there are to those missing regions. Would it be all four regions? If so would they be replaced by newly formed Welsh regions, or would there be other clubs outside of Wales that would fit in?
Thing is, I suspect it would be a blow for all clubs involved, including those present in the AP, and the regions themselves.

Moaning Celts as usual. I'm sure us English will bail you out again.

stevetynant wrote:We cannot let people who's (sic) interest is only money and public exposure hold the game to ransom or the future will be bleak for all concerned.

Quite right. Roger out!

Toast wrote:Moaning Celts as usual. I'm sure us English will bail you out again.

Lets confine it to a real debate please - not a mindless troll

stevetynant wrote:Good article by Dr Gwyn today. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/gwyn-jones-anglo-welsh-competition-not-6394750

An Anglo welsh will only be a short term solution to fill some free time for the English clubs until a better money spinner comes along.we would destroy professional rugby in the other Celtic nation's, devalue the 6 nations and be dropped at short notice when the money men suss out that cash strapped sides from Gwent are not the draw they expected.all sides in this dispute need to work together to securea future for the northern hemisphere, we cannot let people who's interest is only money and public exposure hold the game to ransom or the future will be bleak for all concerned.

Hit the nail on the head there mate. There are certainly a great many reasons not to jump from the frying pan.

"800 years of oppression"...  

Toast wrote:Moaning Celts as usual. I'm sure us English will bail you out again.

Oh dear, there really is one born every minute isn't there.

The fact is the PRL have been left with egg on their faces and are clutching at straws without any regard for the long term effect their desires will have on every other union in europe (except the French). Maybe that's the plan which would ultimately lead to the Franglo league they all desire so much.

He should try the 950 we poor English have had to suffer. Has he never heard of the Harrying of the North?

BTW Toast is the Quins 'supporter' who fills up Quins threads with posts about how Poopie they are and how they're going to get battered, etc, etc. Very boring.

I know he said Racing would get 5 points against Quins last Saturday because Quins were so poor

The mans a genius

gcBlues wrote:"800 years of oppression"...  

FFS! Well at least he didn't mention Owain Glyndwr which worked for WAG.

maestegmafia wrote:

stevetynant wrote:Good article by Dr Gwyn today. http://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/gwyn-jones-anglo-welsh-competition-not-6394750

An Anglo welsh will only be a short term solution to fill some free time for the English clubs until a better money spinner comes along.we would destroy professional rugby in the other Celtic nation's, devalue the 6 nations and be dropped at short notice when the money men suss out that cash strapped sides from Gwent are not the draw they expected.all sides in this dispute need to work together to securea future for the northern hemisphere, we cannot let people who's interest is only money and public exposure hold the game to ransom or the future will be bleak for all concerned.

Hit the nail on the head there mate. There are certainly a great many reasons not to jump from the frying pan.

You're probably right. But it is still a frying pan.

From the outside it does look as if Welsh rugby is tearing itself apart (or that the WRU is making a bid to take over the club level as well). You can see why the regions might be willing to chance their arms in a setup where the clubs run their own competition and the relationship with the union is co-operative rather than antagonistic.

As I mentioned in the other thread.  Scarlets have committed themselves to playing under the ERC.