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Post by Marky on Fri 24 Jan 2014, 9:16 am

First topic message reminder :

Who's in? We can discuss who can help with what when we know exactly how many managers we have and what we're going to do.

If there's enough, I'm in.

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Post by The_Enigma on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 10:52 am

After having a bit of a break from competing in Football Leagues, The idea of a 2-Tier League System sounds really appealing to me, personally I'd love to start in the bottom division and work my way up...

However, I do have a few questions to ask before I consider rejoining...

Q - What kind of teams will be added to the team? Draft? Existing Teams From One League, or from multiple leagues?

Q - Length on Tactics, If it's short & sweet, including voting, I'd probably be up for getting involved

Guys from the Europa League and Previous Realistic Premier Leagues can vouch for my consistency  OK 

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 10:59 am

The_Enigma wrote:Q - What kind of teams will be added to the team? Draft? Existing Teams From One League, or from multiple leagues?

Q - Length on Tactics, If it's short & sweet, including voting, I'd probably be up for getting involved
A1) Not finalised but it would most likely be either:
No players. You have a budget, say £100m & we do draft rounds to buy your players. So you bid on the player you want, you win or lose depending on others bids. Usualy get 2-3 draft rounds to build your squad.
OR
You get a budget. Say £125m. You the have to buy a club based on its TM Value. Say between min £65m-£100m max. The remaining money you use in one draft round to make additions.

A2) Tactics must list your weeks injuries, line up, subs, short team talk (3-4 lines) & then we say around max 15 lines of tactics.
Voting you list result, scorers, good & bad point for each team.

Hope that helps Enigma

I would say if we are doing a two tire league, to insure voting isnt long & you have to vote on everything have it so League 1 votes on League 2 games & visa versa.
That way you should have 5/6 matches to vote on.

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Post by The_Enigma on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 11:11 am

Thanks Zebra,

Although I much prefer having real teams involved within these kind of leagues, the idea of a draft does sound appealing. I'll probably mull things over and see what time I have to dedicate myself to the league. Thanks

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 11:14 am

No worries Enigma. Gimmie a shout if you have any more questions.

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Post by Marky on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 12:14 pm

Hate doing this, but with a restructuring at work and extra responsibilities for myself, I wont have the time to dedicate to running things in this league like I was hoping to continue doing. I also wont be picking up a new team, I'll just have to distance myself from this for a little bit.

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 1:44 pm

Not to worry Marky. Hope you sort your work stuff out.

I can run this poopie with Viva. If you dont hand tactics or votes in Viva will come to your local chinses takeaway & molest you!

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Post by Bull on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 6:12 pm

So who was Football Light?

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Post by Guest on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 6:42 pm

he's still here bull..

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Post by Tranquil Chaos on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 7:02 pm

i like the idea of doing a 2 tier league
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Post by Fernando on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 7:41 pm

VivaPaulScholes wrote:
CF wrote:Zeb, your really not funny!

They're only messing about with you, anyway let's talk ps4, what good games coming out now till April? I'm not a fan of Infamous, what's the Tomb Raider game supposed to be like? I really hope Uncharted 4 comes out or Last Of Us 2 this year.

If you have not played it then i would recommend it very much so. Quite frustrating with it's puzzles on occasions.

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Post by Bull on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 7:52 pm

CF wrote:he's still here bull..

I know but Hero said he knew who it was..

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Post by Hero on Tue 28 Jan 2014, 9:18 pm

I'm aware of who it is, I was waiting to see if he had the cahoonas to admit it and I'd let you guys decide on if you wanted to allow him on.

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Post by Guest on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 12:21 pm

ive said from the very start that it's a duplicate account!!!


anyway is it confirmed that its going to be a 2 tier deal?

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 12:52 pm

yes CF, 2 tier league.

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Post by Afro on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 12:54 pm

What are the numbers?

I think I am probably going to sit it out after all tbh. It was a moment of weakness the other day!
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Post by Gregers on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:10 pm

So we have decided:

- 2 tier league
- Initial draft


We now need to decide:

- Draft for players or team initially
- Injuries
- Releases/Transfermarket/TPs
- Budgets

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Post by Guest on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:14 pm

ok cool, 2 tier defo good idea.

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Post by Gregers on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:24 pm

Oh and cup needs to be decided. Personally i would go with:

- 2 tier league, top 2 go up. Bottom 2 down. 4th in top league plays 3rd in bottom league with winner getting place in top league

- Initial draft for players with a focus on outside of Prem, Bundesliga and La Liga. £125 million budget

- Cup. 4 groups depending on number of teams. Focus on youth players. Basic tactics, high reward (as outlined on EuroDiv homepage a few days ago)

- Injuries - 4 a week, 1 can be chosen to play max 45 minutes however if he does he has a 1/2 chance of being injured again the following week

- Releases - No releases, can nominate players to be "Transfermarketed". Offers for these will be TM value -25%. Must be accepted, however if a team in the league matches the value they get the player no questions asked. maximum 1 nominated per week

- "Lawyers" - Max 2 offers per week (1 if no one "transfermarketed"). Randomly selected to be -25%, =to or +25% TM value

- "Foreigns" - Players to be bought at TM value. Increase maximum value by £500k every week. Starting at £8 million. Increase changes as we do now

- Tactics - league, as we are now. Cup - as with Europa League's Cup

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Post by FIFA Diva on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:35 pm

I reckon cup should be introduced the following season depending on how well first season has done. Don't like the cap on having certain youth or nationality or some sort of requirement for the cup. 

Two tier league is not easy, it's all fun when we start a league but it takes a lot of hard work and if we lose a manager a new needs to be bought in soon as possible.
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Post by Guest on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:39 pm

yeah i agree about the cup viva... i wouldn't start that in the first season

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Post by Afro on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 1:51 pm

Although I'm not taking part, from experience running these things, I would advise against making anything too complicated.

The most successful leagues are those that keep it simple i.e. I would steer well clear of the proposed changes to releases, injuries and lawyers. The only change I would make is that a release is exactly that. The player goes, you get no money, potentially even make it so that it costs you to release. Therefore you are only releasing to free up squad space
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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 3:15 pm

I would like a transfer window.
Say the season 10 weeks long. Window open gameweek 1-3. Closed 4-7. Open 7-10.
3 weeks open, 4 closed, 3 open.
Something liek this.

based on the above. With a limit of 2 transfers a week that give max 6 foreign tps before the window closes for 4 weeks.

Hopefully this should give an increase in deals within the league.

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Post by Fernando on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 3:21 pm

It won't work ZZZ. People will just save their money up through them weeks for their target. Going to take a while to get everyone's in consider more sides this season.

Personally i prefer Drafting a team, A lot of hassle trying to go through 4 drafts for players.

The rest im happy with

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Post by Gregers on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 3:26 pm

I am happy to run the draft for players (despite it being a hassle)

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Post by Guest on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 3:42 pm

don't particuarly like the idea of a transfer window, because then it seems to go quiet..

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Post by Zinedine_Ze_Zebra on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 4:20 pm

Ok Nando. Just though id throw it out there. CF aint up for it either.
I would like it but not fussed either way.

Id prefer to draft a team then players.
I say that as with players you pretty much get the squad you want from the start. With a team you will want to make transfers & changes & with 2 TP a week it should encorage some deals early on.

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Post by Marky on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 4:49 pm

ZZZ is right in principle about a transfer window, but it wont work on a league like this where interest needs to be kept as high as possible.

Also would recommend not going too in-depth with injuries as maintaining who played 45 mins the previous week as the season goes on will be harder and harder.

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Post by FootballLight on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 7:39 pm

So then, just to clarify, am I still allowed in the league?

I do have the metal to admit it, I'd just prefer to keep people guessing for now because I could prove people wrong to who I actually am. You may have different opinions on me later. Instead of judging me all the time.

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Post by FIFA Diva on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:31 pm

There's no guessing everyone knows your lrf.
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Post by Bull on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:42 pm

No guessing just admit who you're so we can lock you away. You are wasting valuable time of Bullock Holmes. Wink

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Post by FIFA Diva on Wed 29 Jan 2014, 8:45 pm

Haha calm it Bull. An angry Bull is not a good Bull.
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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 3:21 pm

finally, the truth is out!!

let's get this shizzle started.... Wink

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Post by FootballLight on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 3:25 pm

Fine then, I'm Lrf. Whatever. Did it make that much of a difference? Can you still allow me into the league?

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 3:38 pm

well it was obvious lol, as i pointed out straight away, on realistic prem page!

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Post by FIFA Diva on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 3:41 pm

I've got no issue with you mate but I've heard stuff that you mess about in other leagues and you change stuff etc. I have no problem with people joining but if you joining makes other people leave then I'm afraid it's going to be difficult for you to join. 

Let's wait and see what happens and what everyone's views are, by Tuesday we should be starting the new league.
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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 3:45 pm

i'm not fussed whether you stay or not, just wanna get this going!

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Post by FootballLight on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 5:35 pm

Ok.. Then again, if they don't want to be in the league because of me, that is there problem, they won't get over it.

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Post by Guest on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 5:39 pm

depends on how the majority see it..

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Post by FIFA Diva on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 6:58 pm

CF we need you in the euro division page, major issue needs resolving and you have to be the middle man.
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Post by Marky on Thu 30 Jan 2014, 8:59 pm

FootballLight, stop moaning, you're in, just be good and stop repeating yourself Wink

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Post by Gregers on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 11:57 am

Can we decide budgets/drafts etc so I can use the weekend to scout on tm?

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Post by Holymiky on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 1:37 pm

Are we buying teams or are we doing drafts?

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Post by Guest on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 3:25 pm

let's get it started!!!!!!!

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Post by Holymiky on Fri 31 Jan 2014, 7:35 pm

We are still finishing the current season CF. Next week i think we are starting the new league if we have everything planned.

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Post by Guest on Sat 01 Feb 2014, 3:40 pm

ok cool

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Post by FootballLight on Sat 01 Feb 2014, 6:46 pm

Ok, thanks Marky!

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