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Post by Lowlandbrit Wed 12 Mar 2014, 12:51 pm

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sodhat wrote:On Gabbert we may laugh now
And for good reason: www.deadspin.com/the-49ers-traded-for-a-historically-awful-quarterback

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 14 Mar 2014, 4:48 pm

GSC wrote:Browner cancelled his trip to Washington

Honestly I dont get the hype, Maxwell and Lane were both better and he's suspended 4 games

The further it gets Kyle Arrington away from playing the better. Plus he's a good #2 imo
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Post by GSC Fri 14 Mar 2014, 5:08 pm

The only place it'd work in NE where they can cycle safety help onto him.

People see Seattles success and think Browner is a great option. In reality, he's a 30 year old CB with coverage issue who's suspended 4 games
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Post by crazy_dave23 Fri 14 Mar 2014, 8:17 pm

BJ Raji returning to Green Bay on a cheap $4m one year contract.
Reasonably happy about that. He has dropped off a bit, but at that price for a single year seems fair

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Post by GSC Fri 14 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm

Eh, if he doesn't rebound this year it might be it for him
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Post by GSC Fri 14 Mar 2014, 8:36 pm

The Dolphins give Finnegan 11m over 2 years. Pure desperation move
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Post by NYJ Fri 14 Mar 2014, 8:45 pm

DRC visiting the Jets. That would be a good signing. Hopefully less than the $10m per year he wants.
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Post by Bull Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:04 pm

Tillman returns!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:15 pm

Steve Smith to the Ravens in a 3 year deal, another of Edelman's potential landing spots gone  Yahoo 

Verner only got a million a year more than what Finnegan is getting. That's mental
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Post by Bull Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:31 pm

Edelman to the Bears...

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 14 Mar 2014, 9:39 pm

Bull wrote:Edelman to the Bears...

Cos a WR is needed as much in Chicago as a QB is in Indianapolis...
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Post by Number-25 Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:28 pm

Fair to say that today has been the calm after the storm. Unless you count Steve Smith joining Baltimore as significant news... which it isn't really.

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Post by GSC Fri 14 Mar 2014, 10:31 pm

As it always is. This is when the best franchises find value in the scraps
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Post by BamBam Fri 14 Mar 2014, 11:17 pm

Browner to Pats, Nicks to Colts

Mehhhhhhhh

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Fri 14 Mar 2014, 11:20 pm

Browner got a 3 yr, 17m deal. Be interested to see how that's structured.

Hakeem Nicks to Indy
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Post by twelve283 Fri 14 Mar 2014, 11:55 pm

Olly wrote:Browner got a 3 yr, 17m deal. Be interested to see how that's structured.
Without knowing the exact details of the deal it looks like we overpaid.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 15 Mar 2014, 12:02 am

twelve283 wrote:
Olly wrote:Browner got a 3 yr, 17m deal. Be interested to see how that's structured.
Without knowing the exact details of the deal it looks like we overpaid.

Yeah I'd agree, but see how its structured first.

Like our secondary now, if only we had the Adrian Wilson of three years ago
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Post by twelve283 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 12:13 am

Olly wrote:
twelve283 wrote:
Olly wrote:Browner got a 3 yr, 17m deal. Be interested to see how that's structured.
Without knowing the exact details of the deal it looks like we overpaid.

Yeah I'd agree, but see how its structured first.

Like our secondary now, if only we had the Adrian Wilson of three years ago
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The defense is taking shape, McCourty, Revis and a Dennard/Browner combo, Mayo, Hightower and Collins at LB and Jones providing the pass rush.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 15 Mar 2014, 12:23 am

twelve283 wrote:
Olly wrote:
twelve283 wrote:
Olly wrote:Browner got a 3 yr, 17m deal. Be interested to see how that's structured.
Without knowing the exact details of the deal it looks like we overpaid.

Yeah I'd agree, but see how its structured first.

Like our secondary now, if only we had the Adrian Wilson of three years ago
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The defense is taking shape, McCourty, Revis and a Dennard/Browner combo, Mayo, Hightower and Collins at LB and Jones providing the pass rush.

Be interested to see what they do when/if Wilfork goes. I'd imagine they draft someone now Kelly is staying, mid round guy. Still need a depth DE and LB but these can be addressed further down the line.

Probably should get Brady someone to throw to at some point too
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 15 Mar 2014, 1:26 pm

Peppers to Green Bay.

Not sure how he fits into a 3-4
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Post by NYJ Sat 15 Mar 2014, 1:44 pm

As a 3-4 OLB, I'm sure. Wink

Elite players like Peppers can fit into any system. Just because he's been playing 4-3 DE for years doesn't mean he can't play as a LB.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 15 Mar 2014, 1:52 pm

I'd agree, but is Peppers really elite anymore? He's what 33/34 now, on the downside of his career

I'm not sure about that signing at all, big risk, big price
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Post by GSC Sat 15 Mar 2014, 2:22 pm

Chances are he'll be a situational pass rusher.

A few years ago I'd agree with NYJ, but ultimately Olly is right, the tanks almost empty now.

Wonder what Allen has to do to get a job. Comfortably outplayed Peppers and Ware a year ago
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Post by twelve283 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 2:30 pm

GSC wrote:Chances are he'll be a situational pass rusher.

A few years ago I'd agree with NYJ, but ultimately Olly is right, the tanks almost empty now.

Wonder what Allen has to do to get a job. Comfortably outplayed Peppers and Ware a year ago
He had more sacks, Ware was still the far better all-round player. Ware is the only one of the three I would have wanted for the Pats, the other two are situational at best and wouldn't justify their cost.

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Post by Barney92 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 2:35 pm

If it's a deal that can be easily turned into a one-year deal by cutting him without much cost next year then I'm happy. There's cap room this season to do it, so as long as it doesn't hamper resigning Nelson and Cobb I'm alright with it. Could be a master-stroke if he plays like he did a couple of years ago.

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Post by GSC Sat 15 Mar 2014, 2:36 pm

Ware wasn't particularly good last year. Hes really struggling with injuries at this stage of his career. I said a while ago, he'd be a cap casualty for most good FOs
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Post by Pr4wn Sat 15 Mar 2014, 2:56 pm

He's also not a 4-3 DE. I'm sure the Broncos will use him properly.

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Post by GSC Sat 15 Mar 2014, 2:59 pm

To be brutally honest, that would be below wear and tear on the list of reasons.
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Post by Bull Sat 15 Mar 2014, 3:05 pm

I miss Peppers.

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Post by GSC Sat 15 Mar 2014, 3:07 pm

Don't worry Bull, Michael Sam should be there at 14
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Post by Bull Sat 15 Mar 2014, 3:35 pm

Laugh Well played.  OK 

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Post by NYJ Sat 15 Mar 2014, 3:42 pm

Olly wrote:I'd agree, but is Peppers really elite anymore? He's what 33/34 now, on the downside of his career

I'm not sure about that signing at all, big risk, big price

Not now, but it still stands that he can play OLB with minimal change in performance.
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Post by twelve283 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 4:17 pm

Allen has never been as good an all-round player as Ware and, as far as I can tell, that hasn't changed. They have both been excellent at generating pressure over the years but Ware offers more in other areas IMO. I think the fact that Ware was snapped up quickly but Allen is still a FA says it all TBH.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 15 Mar 2014, 8:39 pm


Edelman back in NE!
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Post by Pr4wn Sat 15 Mar 2014, 9:38 pm

Best place for him. He's just a scheme player.

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Post by crazy_dave23 Sat 15 Mar 2014, 9:41 pm

Ben Tate at the Browns... seems like a sensible move to take a number one slot... will be nice to see how he copes with it... could be the next Michael Turner

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sat 15 Mar 2014, 11:57 pm

Kenny Britt visiting New England tomorrow, seems like the kinda guy we could take a punt on
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Post by GSC Sat 15 Mar 2014, 11:59 pm

Hasn't been remotely the same player since injuries
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 16 Mar 2014, 12:02 am

Well he's from Rutgers so we're signing him no matter what
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Post by Pr4wn Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:09 am

Even after you've signed LaFell?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 16 Mar 2014, 10:51 am

I don't see why we wouldn't give him a shot in camp

LaFell completed our three slot receiver set we seem to be trying to achieve
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Post by BirminghamPatriot Sun 16 Mar 2014, 3:53 pm

Sounds like we might be going the same way as last offseason, collect a few WR's and then let them all battle it out in camp. Only one probably "guaranteed" a roster spot is Edelman. Rest are up for grabs in my opinion.

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Post by Lowlandbrit Sun 16 Mar 2014, 4:59 pm

Seems like a lot of money for LaFell if you don't know he's making the roster.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 16 Mar 2014, 5:02 pm

LaFell hasn't been given a three year deal to not make the roster.

I'd imagine Edelman, Amendola, LaFell, Dobson, Boyce are all locks as it stands
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Post by Pr4wn Sun 16 Mar 2014, 7:55 pm

Is Dane Fletcher any good?

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Sun 16 Mar 2014, 7:57 pm

Pr4wn wrote:Is Dane Fletcher any good?

Very good special teamer. Nothing more than a half decent backup LB tho
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Post by GSC Sun 16 Mar 2014, 8:27 pm

Some say he might even be a Great Dane

Ill get my coat
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Post by GSC Mon 17 Mar 2014, 12:59 pm

Jim Irsay arrested for drink driving and possession

Goodbye Colts
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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 17 Mar 2014, 8:34 pm

Brandon Weeden signs for the Cowboys, Jared Allen and Henry Melton could follow.
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Post by crazy_dave23 Mon 17 Mar 2014, 8:43 pm

Maybe the calls for the head of Tony Romo will slow now that Weeden the Interceptor is in town!

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Post by mikeygnfl Mon 17 Mar 2014, 9:09 pm

I don't think Jerry Jones has forgiven Kyle Orton for not making the playoffs.
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