Liam Williams Yellow Card

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This is what sickens rugby fans, inconsistency. Absolutely disgusted by this decision- if an unintentional collision with a player in the air is a red card, it's awful to see a player get a yellow card for what looked like an intentional shoulder charge on a player in the air a few weeks later.

This whole area plainly needs to be reviewed. Absolutely crazy that that can be a yellow and the Payne incident a red. There is too much variation in the punishment for this offence for it to be fair to players and spectators. If it's red, it's red fair enough- but then to see a much more serious incident only get yellow and probably no ban makes it clear there is no level playing field here and that needs to be sorted out ASAP.

lostinwales wrote:

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

lostinwales wrote:

BigTrevsbigmac wrote:

clivemcl wrote:

Don Alfonso wrote:According to Rugbydump,

"The independant Citing Commissioner has deemed that Williams' first half tackle was sufficiently dangerous to have warranted a red card, so he has been cited, under Law 10.4 (e): Dangerous tackling. A player must not tackle an opponent whose feet are off the ground."

http://www.rugbydump.com/2014/04/3687/liam-williams-and-robin-copeland-face-disciplinaries-after-double-red-card

APOLOGIES - see it's been covered.

Like I said before, its not good enough to give an equal ban to Payne after ruling it should have been a red. He should have gotten a further ban since he was wrongly allowed to play the remainder of the game.

Payne effectively was out for three games, Williams only two. Yet the IRB say they are both red card incidents...

If Paynes offence had occurred in the 90th minute it wouldn't have been.... c'est la vie. It was the refs mistake re Williams, the Payne decision was correct.

Some rugby supporter.....   

Why?

Players know the rules as do the officials. Transgress early in the game you get what you deserve. Payne got what he deserved & Williams, ultimately did. The Scarlets benefitted extra 'Williams game time' due to an officials error.

Why? it wasnt a 'serious' post just thinking that, unlike another well known game, usually a rugby game doesnt quite make it to 90 minutes unless there is a lot of stoppage time

Fair play I did miss the humour. But like a lot of rugby supporters I also follow football (as u guessed)   

Serious question

If you tackled Ashton doing one of his swallow dives and prevented a try would you be guilty of tackling a player in the air?

I don't think so. I think it only applies to players jumping to recieve the ball. Once you are in possession you should not be jumping.

But if you grab his lower body , dislodge the ball and he lands on his head and gets badly injured
What then

geoff998rugby wrote:But if you grab his lower body , dislodge the ball and he lands on his head and gets badly injured
What then

 
If they are diving for a try, their body will be low to the ground and so landing on his head would be pretty much impossible, however if the player attempts to dive/jump over you then they should be penalised as jumping to avoid a tackle is illegal (think Shane Williams got pinged eventually on one of his last tests)