Munster V Edinburgh - GPro 12 Round 1

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Munster V Edinburgh

Friday 5th September 2014
KO 19:35
Thomond Park

Referee: Leighton Hodges (WRU, 41st competition game)
Assistant Referees: Nigel Correll, John Carvill (both IRFU)
Citing Commissioner: Eddie Walsh (IRFU)
TMO: Jude Quinn (IRFU)
Live on TG4 / BBA ALBA

23 Wins 6
75 Tries 42
696 Points 443
27 Average age 26

Results last year:

Munster 34 - Edinburgh 23
Ednburgh 12 - Munster 55

Pre Season form:

Munster 17 - London Irish 5
Gloucester 45 - Munster 8

Edinburgh 10 - Leicester 11
Newcastle 15 - Edinburgh 21

Teams:

Munster
  
15 Ronan O'Mahony
14 Andrew Conway
13 Johne Murphy
12 Andrew Smith
11 Simon Zebo
10 Ian Keatley
9 Duncan Williams

1 John Ryan
2 Kevin O'Byrne
3 BJ Botha
4 Donncha O'Callaghan
5 Billy Holland
6 CJ Stander
7 Sean Dougall
8 Shane Buckley

16 Duncan Casey
17 Alan Cotter
18 Stephen Archer
19 Dave Foley
20 Tommy O'Donnell
21 Cathal Sheridan
22 Johnny Holland
23 Ivan Dineen

Edinburgh
 
15 Jack Cuthbert
14 Dougie Fife
13 Sam Beard
12 Andries Strauss
11 Tim Visser

10 Greig Tonks
9 Sean Kennedy

1 Alasdair Dickinson
2 Ross Ford (Captain)
3 John Andress
4 Fraser McKenzie
5 Ollie Atkins
6 Tomas Leonardi
7 Hamish Watson
8 Cornell Du Preez

16 James Hilterbrand
17 Rory Sutherland
18 W P Nel
19 Ben Toolis
20 Mike Coman
21 Sam Hidalgo-Clyne
22 Nick McLennan
23 Phil Burleigh

RDW_Scotland wrote:From what was said at the time Hurly is very much a 12 and hasn't played much at 10, but I suppose he probably is our backup 10. I'd much rather see him at 12 than Strauss though!

Is heathcoat really behind McLennan in the pecking order now?

I think McLennan is there to cover the back three and 13, unless you want H-C covering wing??

Sin é wrote:

funnyExiledScot wrote:

Sin é wrote:

MunsterMac wrote:
It wouldn't do much for our financial situation either with the club desperately trying to attract more fans to home games.

Munster is investing hugely in Munster Rugby, so the money situation mustn't be that bad.

As a Rangers fan I can assure you that there is little logic in that conclusion.

If you were looking to equate Munster with a Scottish football club, I'd say Celtic would be closer with regard to spending patterns. Dermot Desmond was born in Cork after all.

Some myth about Scots being careful with their money when you look at Rangers, though!

I think RBS dealt with that myth!

Not comparing anything, merely querying the logic in assuming that just because money is being spent, that the spender has sufficient funds or prospects to do so.

Whats our predictions then? Munster haven't had a great preperation but Thormond hasn't been a happy hunting ground for us.

I would imagine Munster would just about sneak it but I'm not overly confident.

That we might win is partly based on the fact that Edinburgh fans don't seem to be overly impressed with their team either.

Wouldn't say we're not overly impressed - other than centre its not too bad and certainly competitive - but we very rarely win at thomond (if ever?)!

Munster by 6 - I'd love to get a lbp

but we very rarely win at thomond (if ever?)!

I can remember being at a Munster v Edinburgh match at the old Thomond in I think 2006 when Edinburgh won.

Well from what I have seen in our preaseason stuff and against Leicester primarily, we actually fronted up and made some tackles.

Who'd have thunk it. Defence was always the missing piece of the Edinburgh puzzle.

MunsterMac wrote:

but we very rarely win at thomond (if ever?)!

I can remember being at a Munster v Edinburgh match at the old Thomond in I think 2006 when Edinburgh won.

Fri 13 Oct 2006 19:30 Munster Rugby 10 - 21 Edinburgh Rugby Thomond Park Stadium 8,000

They used to be Leinster's bogey team until we got a bonus point win over them in the HC in Murrayfield in October 08.

What must be known in Edinburgh as "the good old days"

RDW_Scotland wrote:I might have imagined this, but did the Pro 12 not agree to use independent assistant refs and TMOs?

I think it was just refs, no?

Apparently the English red button commentary is down - will be on the website only.

Heathcoat a late change for Tonks - big chance for him.

Ahhhhh, I've missed the sound of Hugh Dan MacLennan. Friday nights are back to normal at last!

John Andress dominated his opposite number in the scrum!

Oooh, cracking scrum from Edinburgh!

Thomond Park is too big for these games nowadays. Looks bad on TV.

So Heathcote went from not even being on the bench to starting?

Tonks injured in the team run somehow

Good start from Edinburgh - shame it was forwards taking those offloads and not quick backs!

Umm... Can someone tell Glasgow they're not playing until tomorrow?

Munster started very poorly - opportunity for Edinburgh to try to build on this

Anyone got a working link for this?

That wasn't forward!!

Oooft, I've seen those passes given...
Early days but very encouraging from Edinburgh

Leighton Hodges, you were doing so well! You had ten whole minutes without looking like a complete trouser snake!

Blimey, I don't recognise this Edinburgh side!

Lucky that pass from heathcoat was bad or that would have been an interception

I thought it was forward to be fair

I hope Fife gets the ball in space again soon, looks electric. Munster are not playing well at all.

Edinburgh are eating this Munster pack for dinner at the moment!

That 45 degrees rule is ridiculous - it wheeled because the loosehead dominated his side!

"...and deal with it I will."
Hodges, you couldn't deal with a runny nose.

I reckon we've got them in the scrum but have given a few penalties away now - maybe need to scrum smarter

Our maul defence has been excellent

Out-bloody-standing, Edinburgh! Simply beautiful.

Munster looking very, very underwhelming here

Forward pass, but sure thats just another chance to push the Munster pack around. Then they'll go down, the ref will reset five times and then flip a coin!

Munster scrum really creaking again there

Scrum against the head!

Wow, lovely strike against the head there

Got to find a faster way for restarting the game.

George Carlin wrote:Anyone got a working link for this?

Anyone?

Why is he giving Munster all the scrum penalties?? Surely we've got the upper hand there?

George Carlin wrote:

George Carlin wrote:Anyone got a working link for this?

Anyone?

Unfortunately we are all watching on Alba, still with the gaelic as the English commentary link is not working

Yeah....That was definitely forward from Kennedy! We're even now!

Surely a yellow!

Those are the kicks Heathcote needs to be nailing

I suspect this isn't going to look good...

Hmmmm

Stupid stupid stupid - was pretty soft but that was the last thing we needed.

Letter of the law that's a yellow but was definitely the lower end of the scale!

Thats soft, Zebo jumped into tackle

Bit unlucky there, but could also have gone red as well. Zebo certainly looked like he jumped into the tackle. To be fair he made nothing of it, it was the officials call.