We Go Again! The 2014/15 Premier League Thread

[kingraf]

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You're both quite awful, but I wouldn't rule anybody out of anything yet. Liverpool are THIRTEENTH and they are just five points off a CL spot (although, they might give up on it this year, so they can make a run for it next year). The teams are just all so close this season, u don't think it would have even cleared up by Christmas (except Chelsea winning the league, they should be coronated by then). Citeh are basically trying the Suárez trick with Agüero, and while it's working at the moment, I'd say with his injury track record, the one with the thunder thighs is not someone you want to base your entire season around. If Agüero's out, Citeh struggle (hell, with Agüero in they've made heavy weather). I'd back both Utd and Arsenal to make it, but If Southampton can make it out of December still top five, I think it begins to get interesting

[Guest]

Lovren lol. What an embarrassing defensive display

[mystiroakey]

Jones is so funny

In a black comedy kind of way!

[Crimey]

Frak off balotelli you scumbag

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

What on earth is Brad Jones doing

And Lovren. My god I actually could've done a better clearance than that

[Crimey]

I don't think I've ever seen Joe Allen do anything even remotely useful.

[Dolphin Ziggler]

I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

[Crimey]

I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

Right now only Aguero and Costa are really going to be pushing him for it and both have proved injury prone. Maybe Fabregas.

[Crimey]

Also Liverpool have been really bad defensively but I still think 3-0 is a bit flattering to United. 

Balotelli has struggled at controlling the ball...a professional footballer worth £60k+ a week is struggling to control the football. I hope he's sold in January, even if he is just let go, that will do.

[mystiroakey]

I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

Right now only Aguero and Costa are really going to be pushing him for it and both have proved injury prone. Maybe Fabregas.

sanchez just above cesc..

[mystiroakey]

Also Liverpool have been really bad defensively but I still think 3-0 is a bit flattering to United. 

Balotelli has struggled at controlling the ball...a professional footballer worth £60k+ a week is struggling to control the football. I hope he's sold in January, even if he is just let go, that will do.

unless you give him up for next to nothing you will be stuck with the wage bill. i say loan him out.

[Crimey]

I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

Right now only Aguero and Costa are really going to be pushing him for it and both have proved injury prone. Maybe Fabregas.

sanchez just above cesc..

Yeah Sanchez is a decent shout.

[Crimey]

Also Liverpool have been really bad defensively but I still think 3-0 is a bit flattering to United. 

Balotelli has struggled at controlling the ball...a professional footballer worth £60k+ a week is struggling to control the football. I hope he's sold in January, even if he is just let go, that will do.

unless you give him up for next to nothing you will be stuck with the wage bill. i say loan him out.

I'm sure there will be somebody stupid enough to sign him, he will definitely sell shirts.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

He gonna get paaaaiiiiiddddd by Madrid next summer

[Crimey]

Awful touch again by Balotelli.

[JDizzle]

If we're talking ridiculously early player of the year shouts, I'd say Chelsea's best player has been Matic. He'll never win it, but deserves recognition.

[Crimey]

Players to be sold in at least by the summer:

M Balotelli
J Allen
G Johnson
J Enrique
F Borini

Got to bring in a new striker, a new goalkeeper (I'd keep Mignolet as back up), and a better creative midfielder than Joe Allen!

[Guest]

A combination of poor finishing and great goalkeeping.

I hate that cliche.

[Crimey]

Brad Jones is like when you play football in the playground as kids and people have to take it in turns to be the keeper.

[Fernando]

Fact Of The Day: Brendan Rodgers has not named the same side for 2 games in a row this season

#RanieriJr

[Crimey]

A lot of questions for Rodgers...

Why did he decide to make a lot of big changes in such a big game, not one or two, but four of five serious tactical and personnel changes, such a weird game to do that in?

Why did he drop Mignolet after he had not good, but okay games, for Brad Jones a keeper who is most likely only still at the club because he's happy to never play?

Why was Lucas dropped after he had started to give some protection to the defence but Joe Allen kept in who offers so little?

Why bring back the back three, it's never brought success and with a new goalkeeper playing a completely different defensive formation seems to be asking for trouble?

Why start Glen Johnson at centre back, the only good thing was that he was injured before we discovered how terrible that would have been?

So many ridiculous decisions before this game from Rodgers, he's allowed the pressure to get to him and has tried to be clever. He needs to take a leaf out of Mourinho's book and get back to basics, coach defensively properly. Forget high-tempo passing game or whatever Rodgers' philosophy is (because it's changed a lot) and make sure the basics are done properly, get clean sheets, if that means Liverpool are more boring or score less goals that's fine as long as they pick up more points and stop conceding so many goals. He's been found out and needs to show there is more to him than successfully being able to get a system in which to get the best out of Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Rodgers wont change, he never has done, he's too far up his own arse too. Just look at his time at Reading and how that ended, going exactly the same way with Liverpool

[mystiroakey]

liverpool didnt actually play that bad today- ok they were woeful in defence.. but in attack bar finishing they did some good things.

[Hammersmith harrier]

I couldn't believe the commentary team didn't pick up on Jones' positioning for the third goal, I assumed Van Persie was yards offside he was that far from where he needed to be, he also went far too early for the Rooney goal.

That man De Gea again, easily the best keeper in the league now and can't be too far behind Neuer overall.

Far from a vintage performance but that's now 6 wins in a row, conceding only three goals in the process, it's not pretty but we are making progress.

[mystiroakey]

RVP looks a very happy man again.

[JDizzle]

Courtois is up there with De Gea, he just doesn't get to prove it as much. The are comfortably the best two though.

[Fernando]

Brendan Rodgers: we did enough to win

[NickisBHAFC]

De Gea is the best keeper in the league without question

[NickisBHAFC]

Also, Carrick is a far better passer than Wilshere.

100% agree.

[NickisBHAFC]

1-0. Good header by Harry Kane. Poor defending by Swansea.

[NickisBHAFC]

What a tackle by Ben Davies

[FootballLight]

Liverpool had enough clear cut chances to win 3 games this afternoon, but, sometimes it just isn't your day, as they found out today. United were clinical. I don't see what the problem with not having many shots is, as long as they score the one's they have and they are clinical then I don't see much of a problem.

Swansea vs Spurs is turning into quite a decent game as well. Spurs are at sea when defending and Swansea don't seem short of creating chances really. But Bony just needs to be a little bit sharper. If they had someone who has a little bit more mobile and with better anticipation with the chances Swansea have had, then it could have easily been 2-1 at least in this game so far.

[JamesLincs]

whens lamela gunna be dropped? he does absolutely nothing

[FootballLight]

Apart from flying elbows into Montero.

Ouch! That was nasty from Vertonghen. Both Vertonghen and Lamela on another day could have easily seen red.

[JamesLincs]

yellow is fair enough for vertonghen. lamela should be off, and straight to the airport and back to south america. he cant even do the basics sometimes, its crazy

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Now Liverpool's worst start to a season in 50 years.

Oof

[mystiroakey]

Swansea going full on Liverpool with bony doing what Sterling and Balotteli did earlier

Many scousers are hoping to get bony in Jan!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

Bony is just too good, his movement is exceptional

[kingraf]

At least Bony scores!!

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I know Spurs have a tendency for finding absolute turd players but this Fazio fella is impressively bad

[JamesLincs]

its a good substitution from poch, were gunna have to play on the counter now. would be happy with a draw

[kingraf]

Kane is a decent finisher but doesn't seem particularly sharp at anything else.

[Hammersmith harrier]

I know Spurs have a tendency for finding absolute turd players but this Fazio fella is impressively bad

Was thinking exactly the same thing, they like Liverpool are masters at wasting money on average players but unfortunately the moment they find a gem they get stolen soon after, Eriksen won't be there much longer.

[NickisBHAFC]

Erikson last minute winner. Scenes.

[Good Golly I'm Olly]

I genuinely do not understand Spurs

[JamesLincs]

eriksen deserved that. nice touches in difficult conditions, hes been patient on the ball and not tried to do too much. hard earnt win, delighted

[kingraf]

How did we manage to lose that? Bloody hell.

[Liam]

Important win today. Didn't play well in my view, way too sloppy in possession and I don't think 3 at the back works at all, we just seem to play ourselves into danger and constantly get caught on the counter. Fellaini did well defensively but was woeful with the ball, constantly gives the ball away. Going forward, if we are having to play a back 3, please please please Van Gaal give Herrera a go, he's great on the ball and works hard defensively also.

All confidence building and hopefully now we can get Rafael, Shaw, Di Maria, Rojo and Smalling back from injury and get Falcao scoring we can start performing better in games. We're in a position where a couple of signings in January may see us challenging for the league, but i'm more than happy with 3rd all day long.

[Stella]

Bony is just too good, his movement is exceptional

Pity his finishing and touch was rank, today.

[Liam]

Anyone think Liverpool should go for a double swoop in Vlaar and Benteke in Jan? They get a proven PL cb, who's commanding and brings leadership, something they desperately need, and also a proven PL striker (if he stays fit) who gives them some physical presence and also movement in behind?

[Dolphin Ziggler]

Both would be grand. Bony another good idea. Reid should have been taken from us in the summer. You'd have thought that Rodgers would have taken an interest in Welbeck at that price too, a man who has played with Sturridge a lot and works as hard as any striker remaining in this league.

The desperate way they are treating Borini, who the club clearly want rid of, yet would offer better than the nothing they have put up there at times. And the Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana three has been terribly frustrating, they are taking up so much of the same space.

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