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Post by kingraf Sat 29 Nov 2014, 8:42 pm

First topic message reminder :

You're both quite awful, but I wouldn't rule anybody out of anything yet. Liverpool are THIRTEENTH and they are just five points off a CL spot (although, they might give up on it this year, so they can make a run for it next year). The teams are just all so close this season, u don't think it would have even cleared up by Christmas (except Chelsea winning the league, they should be coronated by then). Citeh are basically trying the Suárez trick with Agüero, and while it's working at the moment, I'd say with his injury track record, the one with the thunder thighs is not someone you want to base your entire season around. If Agüero's out, Citeh struggle (hell, with Agüero in they've made heavy weather). I'd back both Utd and Arsenal to make it, but If Southampton can make it out of December still top five, I think it begins to get interesting
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Post by spencerclarke Sun 14 Dec 2014, 9:27 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

Was thinking the same myself. Tas been a long time since a keeper won it.

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Post by Hammersmith harrier Sun 14 Dec 2014, 10:48 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Both would be grand. Bony another good idea. Reid should have been taken from us in the summer. You'd have thought that Rodgers would have taken an interest in Welbeck at that price too, a man who has played with Sturridge a lot and works as hard as any striker remaining in this league.

The desperate way they are treating Borini, who the club clearly want rid of, yet would offer better than the nothing they have put up there at times. And the Sterling, Coutinho, Lallana three has been terribly frustrating, they are taking up so much of the same space.

Rodgers does come across as being completely clueless, it's as if his tactic is to get all his best attacking players on the pitch but completely ignore the shape of the team. Everybody could see that Lallana wasn't going to work because they have to many players who use the same space as you say and signing Balotelli was doomed from the start, trying to be too clever.

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Post by westisbest Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:18 am

Liam wrote:Anyone think Liverpool should go for a double swoop in Vlaar and Benteke in Jan? They get a proven PL cb, who's commanding and brings leadership, something they desperately need, and also a proven PL striker (if he stays fit) who gives them some physical presence and also movement in behind?

Think Vlaar will be off next month.
Utd, Saints, being linked with him. Rather he went in jan, so we could get some money for him.

Benteke, cant afford to lose him at the moment. May well be off in the summer, would be surprised if he left next month. Has 1 more season after this left on his contract.

Hope he can start to bang some more goals in. Bit of a shocker against the Baggies.
Couple against Utd saturday would be good.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 6:08 pm

Remember when people said Southampton would regret sacking Nigel Adkins?
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Post by Guest Mon 15 Dec 2014, 6:46 pm

Remember when Olly said Newcastle would be relegated this season?

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Post by Fernando Mon 15 Dec 2014, 7:18 pm

Everton starting XI: Howard, Baines, Distin, Jagielka, Coleman, Besic, Barkley, Mirallas, Naismith, McGeady, Lukaku
Everton subs: Joel, Eto'o, Kone, Pienaar, Stones, Garbutt, Alcaraz

QPR starting XI: Green, Yeung, Dunne, Onuoha, Isla, Phillips, Barton, Fer, Mutch, Hoilett, Vargas
QPR subs: McCarthy, Ferdinand, Hill, Wright-Phillips, Kranjcar, Henry, Zamora

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 7:19 pm

Olly wrote:Remember when people said Southampton would regret sacking Nigel Adkins?
Tbf at the time that was a very reasonable thing to say and most Southampton fans were saying it as well. No one could say they've seen this Southampton success coming since then.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 15 Dec 2014, 7:37 pm

Never really rated him so I'm not surprised. But then I rated McDermott so who knows.

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:33 pm

What a goal
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Post by Fernando Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:33 pm

Everton 1-0 QPR - Ross Barkley

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Post by Duty281 Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:33 pm

Brilliant by Gascoigne!

He has been threatening that all evening; superb link-up with Lukaku!

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Post by Fernando Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:44 pm

2-0 Everton - Kevin Mirallas

QPR have 2 goals away from home & 0 pts

Not looking promising for a comeback...

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:47 pm

Ross Barkley is our brightest prospect by a mile

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:50 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Ross Barkley is our brightest prospect by a mile

He hint no Nathan Redmond buh
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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:51 pm

Shame Redmond is gonna be stuck playing Championship football next season again.

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Post by Duty281 Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:52 pm

I shall begin by saying that it is only QPR, which it is, but I do like Barkley playing a deeper role, and would be a supporter of him playing there for his country alongside Henderson - if only Roy would revert back to the balanced 4-2-3-1, and not the lopsided diamond which will cause no end of trouble.

But that is England, and this is Everton, who have been highly impressive. Particularly Mirallas.

Even if it is only QPR.

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Post by Guest Mon 15 Dec 2014, 8:54 pm

Roy doesn't fancy Barkley, can't see him forcing his way into side. Roy hates Barkleys ill discipline. Without the deflection, shot was going wide. Horrible 45 mins for QPR, two deflections & no real threat. Basically game over

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:03 pm

NickisBHAFC wrote:Shame Redmond is gonna be stuck playing Championship football next season again.

Tbf he's probably not ready to be a regular starter in the PL just yet
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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:08 pm

Miralles is the most underrated player in the league.

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Post by Fernando Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:10 pm

3-0 Everton - Naismith

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Post by westisbest Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:12 pm

Great weight on the cross from McGeady.

Underrated player imo.

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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:19 pm

Everton have a lot of underrated players. Miralles, McCarthy, Naismith, McGeady

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:35 pm

All the Irish think we underrate McGeady, they aint biased though eh Westy Wink

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:38 pm

Tim Howard is a very very poor goalkeeper
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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:38 pm

Ohhhhhhhhh bobbyyyyyyy Zamoraaaaaaaaaaa

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:44 pm

Besic dont Frak about when he tackles

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Post by Fernando Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:50 pm

Does anyone else get the feeling that there is something underlying of Olly's hatred of Tim Howard...


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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:58 pm

He cant grow a beard

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 9:59 pm

Whilst that is true (annoyingly so) he isn't very good

Everton fans were abysmal too
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Post by Liam Mon 15 Dec 2014, 10:01 pm

no surprises on the result. Everton weren't that great but didn't need to be to beat a poor QPR side. Don't see them staying up tbh, looking like Leicester, QPR and Burnley.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Dec 2014, 10:06 pm

BUrnley seem to have a bit about them- I wouldn't rule out palace, Hull or sunderland for the drop..

Palace for all there decent play last 5 games have only picked up 6 points. Under pulis we turned those performances into wins..


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Post by NickisBHAFC Mon 15 Dec 2014, 10:09 pm

I thought Howard was one of the better keepers in the league. Either I'm wrong, or Olly just really hates Howard.

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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Dec 2014, 10:13 pm

I actually agree with olly on this one to be honest.

I would pick loads over him- including speroni(not bias- well probally not!)




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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly Mon 15 Dec 2014, 10:14 pm

IMO all of these GK's in the PL are better than Howard

De Gea 
Courtois
Cech
Chesney
Lloris
Forster
Foster
Hart
Krul
Begovic
Guzan

And then there's a whole bunch like Mignolet, Adrian, Green, Fabianski, Speroni who I'd put on a par with him.

Very much past it for me is Howard
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Post by mystiroakey Mon 15 Dec 2014, 10:17 pm

But is he better than Jones Wink

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 16 Dec 2014, 1:48 am

Foster does not deserve to be in that list, very average keeper.

Howard is pretty decent, most of the keepers in this league are. Outside of the top 2 you'll see plenty mistakes, Cech based on form to be fair.

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Post by westisbest Tue 16 Dec 2014, 8:35 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:All the Irish think we underrate McGeady, they aint biased though eh Westy Wink

Of course not Very Happy

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Post by GSC Tue 16 Dec 2014, 8:37 am

Henry retires.

For me the greatest PL player ever
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Post by westisbest Tue 16 Dec 2014, 8:41 am

He's no Jason Lee though.

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Post by compelling and rich Tue 16 Dec 2014, 8:43 am

great player no doubt but terrible pundit, just mumbles all the time and now he's on sky picard

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Post by NickisBHAFC Tue 16 Dec 2014, 10:45 am

Giggs and Scholes were better than Henry.

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Post by Mat Tue 16 Dec 2014, 3:21 pm

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Foster does not deserve to be in that list, very average keeper.

Howard is pretty decent, most of the keepers in this league are. Outside of the top 2 you'll see plenty mistakes, Cech based on form to be fair.

Come on now Dolph, that's rubbish.

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Post by Duty281 Tue 16 Dec 2014, 4:41 pm

GSC wrote:Henry retires.

For me the greatest PL player ever

Quite agree.

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Tue 16 Dec 2014, 5:08 pm

Mat wrote:
Dolphin Ziggler wrote:Foster does not deserve to be in that list, very average keeper.

Howard is pretty decent, most of the keepers in this league are. Outside of the top 2 you'll see plenty mistakes, Cech based on form to be fair.

Come on now Dolph, that's rubbish.

He never has been and still isnt any better than Rob Green. Green is a fine keeper, as is Foster, but they are genuinely quite average. I don't rate Foster at all sorry, don't think hes progressed at all since his United days. 31 now and he still hasnt got the strength of command he should have.

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Post by Guest Tue 16 Dec 2014, 7:09 pm

Great striker, probably the best forward we've seen, but I wouldn't say the greatest ever PL player.

As for him in Sky, woeful decision. It will be, 'it was eerrrrr a great eerrrrrr goal, fantastic, errrrr.......I think errrrrrrr, it was am, am, am, amazing'. Hopefully he just does the midweek champions league slot but can see him taking over the gaffe.

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Post by Guest Tue 16 Dec 2014, 8:13 pm

have liverpool signed that Ochoa to replace Mignolet? He was immense in the WC

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Post by Fernando Tue 16 Dec 2014, 8:18 pm

If they do not til January as he is Malaga no.2 at the moment...

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Post by Dolphin Ziggler Wed 17 Dec 2014, 2:13 am

I loved Henry the pundit, guy just oozes class.

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Post by Atila Wed 17 Dec 2014, 6:34 am

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Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I hope De Gea is seriously considered come player of the season time

Was thinking the same myself. Tas been a long time since a keeper won it.
Last keeper was Neville Southall for the 84-85 season. Everton won the title that year.

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Post by Ent Wed 17 Dec 2014, 11:00 am

Dolphin Ziggler wrote:I loved Henry the pundit, guy just oozes class.

Style over substance. Has a french accent, has never said anything interesting.

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