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Post by KP_fan on Sun 08 Feb 2015, 7:12 am

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Warm Up game between Ind and Aus ongoing...
it's an official ODI...though after so much cricket why do these sides need a "warm-up"

India's bowling in melt-down and the two most dangerous guys in Aus side Warner and Maxwell get 100s

Looks like Ind will be chasing 375
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:41 am

Footwork isn't Hashim's strongpoint.

Much looking forward to see AB lead by example here.
SA must get 290 runs minimum (according to these expert commentators)... but into the 300s should be what they are looking for.

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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:42 am

2 quick blows......and suddenly SA is tucked back to a 275ish total.

i have now idea how these guys Russow and Behardinne and ABbot bat

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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:44 am

We should still clip 300. AB started well.
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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:45 am

Quite annoyed at Miller dropping one. There's no need for him to bat at six.
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:46 am

depends if they do not lose a wicket until 40th over......they could push towards 300ish and if they lose 2wickets by then........even 275 will be difficult
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:47 am

quinto de kock was such a good batsmen when INdia visited SA.

just hasn't runs in a long time it seems
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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:49 am

Scored a ton against Australia in Australia not too long ago. Just not come back from injury very well. He'll be back
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 5:49 am

Sami has lost pace.......and for a someone who was at his peak 122kph fast.....that is a career limiting loss i think
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 6:25 am

Now it's loking like 320+

if they stretch it to 340ish...game would be beyond WI in any case
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 6:33 am

Easily 320 at the moment. I'll go somewhere between 350-372.
Holder has only 3 overs left... they'll target the others in a big way.

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Post by Biltong on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 6:41 am

Don't think we'll get 360, lots of fifties, only AB left to get to a century.
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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:09 am

This Di Villiers fella is not bad huh
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:21 am

Massive score. Thought that might be on the cards.

Now cue Gayle getting out cheaply... and WI folding for a paltry total.

Nice green tank tops too!

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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:23 am

Wow, that's brutal!

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Post by Biltong on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:26 am

I stand corrected.
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:27 am

He was 63 off 36 balls at the end of the 41st over... and scored another 99 runs off his next 30 balls!

At sea level too! Smile
Phenomenal effort.

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Post by Biltong on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:30 am

After his 149 there were calls to ban AB from ODI cricket, I think after this one there will be a serious effort to accomplish that Wink
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:45 am

Maybe only against the West Indies, yes. That would be fair. Wink

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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 7:55 am

He is a freak...who does these freak shows with quite some consistency.....walking away from the stumps and sweeping pretty quicky bowlers is amazing......and paddle sweeping them in unbelievable and reverse sweeping them is out of this world...and reverse paddle sweeping them is simply freak.

Two freaks have shone brightly i.e Gayle and ABDV...and Maxwell did his bit in one inning limited chance he got.

Now time for Rohit to bash the daylights of the 3 minnow game ahead of him.

It's conculded today SA choke generally and historically when chasing Smile
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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 8:27 am

Problem with that innings is its killed it as a contest. And I was looking forward to a morning of following some competitive cricket. Damn you AB!

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 8:45 am

Another rip snorter of a contest between two full member nations
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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 8:47 am

Well one point of interest is the record of a 290 run defeat is under threat here!

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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 8:58 am

An absolute demolition derby
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:10 am

the game must be fixed for it to be so one sided ...now 6 down for 60 Sad
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:15 am

and 7 down now for 60.....they must have had a mini revolt in the dressing room ........during the break with someone blaming someone else for he debacle with the ball and in field....and then many of them decided come we'll scre*****w you, we'll show you who the boss is and then the harakiri started Smile
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Post by mystiroakey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:19 am

the biggest battering ever on the cards.


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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:22 am

mystiroakey wrote:the biggest battering ever on the cards.


Previous worst defeat was NZ beating Ireland - a Test nation vs an Associate is forgivable. This really isn't and could be the first one over 300 runs

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Post by mystiroakey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:41 am

A lot of batsmen would just want to get out of the ground ASAP. but they have to grind it out for the NRR.

if they can get to 180 - thats a result. Still a battering.

I wish i had seen that last 30 overs or so.

SA only had 84 runs or something after 20 overs!!


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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:42 am

Wow! Just been looking in for the last half hour. Like VTR, I had been looking forward to a contest. Obviously a master class earlier from AB ruined that!

Even with such a score, South Africa still seem determined to give little away when bowling and fielding. Miller looked really pained when he narrowly missed the stumps earlier when attempting a close range run out. I liked that - too often in this tournament, the fielder has broken out into a small smile when dropping a catch. No need for him to beat himself up but don't so obviously pretend it doesn't matter.

Anyway, some cracking catches and a neat stumping from South Africa whilst I've been watching. They seem to be washing that India result right out of their hair.

A fourfer so far from Imran Tahir who's buzzing. He's not been particularly well viewed on this forum in the past but I've always liked him - remarkably effective in English county cricket, admittedly not the level of most international matches.




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Post by mystiroakey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:43 am

I fiverfer now

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Post by guildfordbat on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:54 am

mystiroakey wrote:A lot of batsmen would just want to get out of the ground ASAP. but they have to grind it out for the NRR.

if they can get to 180 - thats a result. Still a battering.

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Mysti - you're right to flag the NRR angle. That might ultimately be relevant to Ireland's QF chances.

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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 9:59 am

Well I think Holder's innings is showing what a dreadful effort it has been from the top order

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Post by Good Golly I'm Olly on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:03 am

AB had more sixes in his innings than dot balls. Ludicrous human
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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:11 am

I also think his knock is showing a South African line up which has effectively gone "job done". Still, shows the character of the man to bat this well having copped some serious tap earlier on
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Post by Stella on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:14 am

I still think South Africa would have beaten India, if De-Villiers hadn't got himself run out.
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:22 am

The game today is a case in dissolving WI and letting them come back as individual islands.
I am sure some of them will turn stronger than Zim and BD
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:23 am

Stella wrote:I still think South Africa would have beaten India, if De-Villiers hadn't got himself run out.

I think If I am also allowed an IF......IF Kapil Dev and tendulkar were playing we would have still not lost even if ABDV hadn't run himself out Smile
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Post by Stella on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:24 am

KP_fan wrote:
Stella wrote:I still think South Africa would have beaten India, if De-Villiers hadn't got himself run out.

I think If I am also allowed an IF......IF Kapil Dev and tendulkar were playing we would have still not lost even if ABDV hadn't run himself out Smile

I get ya. That run out was so needless though. Anyway, India won, so no point in if's.
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Post by Pal Joey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 10:27 am

If you say so, Stella. Smile

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Post by mystiroakey on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:02 pm

SA should have given us ABDV.

We need to sort out why this SA production line has stopped flowing to England.


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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:04 pm

mystiroakey wrote:SA should have given us ABDV.

We need to sort out why this SA production line has stopped flowing to England.


Fair point, and if they need a death bowler, we are happy to send Dernbach back in exchange Very Happy

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Post by Stella on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:08 pm

mystiroakey wrote:SA should have given us ABDV.

We need to sort out why this SA production line has stopped flowing to England.


We'd ruin him.
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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:26 pm

http://sports.ndtv.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2015/features/238199-icc-world-cup-uae-s-mumbai-boy-can-t-wait-to-take-on-india?utm_source=ndtv&utm_medium=top-stories-widget&utm_campaign=story-14-http%3a%2f%2fsports.ndtv.com%2ficc-cricket-world-cup-2015%2ffeatures%2f238199-icc-world-cup-uae-s-mumbai-boy-can-t-wait-to-take-on-india

interview of the WK batsman for UAE
Gives you an insight....there are recruiting agents hanging around the the fringes of First class selections in Ind-Pak-Lanka and picking up the talent who did not make the cut in First Class.
Offer them a salary and 2 year renewable visas, food and hostel accommodation.

It's a sham "the UAE national team"
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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:28 pm

Think we're generally a little bit better at stopping the brain drain now. Plus we the #1 Test team in the world, so there's a prestigious element to sticking around for the guys with real potential who aren't quite there yet. Finally, the rise and rise of T20 and Champions League T20 means that our Franchises can now offer really good pay to guys who arent there yet. I have no doubt that a guy like Stiaan van Zyl, at 27 making his debut, might have been lost ten fifteen years ago. A guy like KP overall probably did the right thing in moving for all those involved. His career would have overlapped a large period of Amla-de Villiers-Kallis middle order. Good as he is/was, not quite there.

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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:29 pm

Also, you can keep Dernbach!
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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:32 pm

kingraf wrote: A guy like KP overall probably did the right thing in moving for all those involved. His career would have overlapped a large period of Amla-de Villiers-Kallis middle order. Good as he is/was, not quite there.


Don't ever tell him that Smile

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Post by Stella on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:37 pm

I'm pretty certain KP would have kept out Duminy, Prince, and Du Plessis, amongst others.
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Post by kingraf on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 12:54 pm

Depends on the format. Faf still averages >50 in Tests, and his ODI debut came when KP was a fading force in Tests. Duminy is an iffy Test batsman, But only averages a run less than KP in ODI and he can bowl ten if required.

Prince admittedly wasn't the greatest. Nuggety fighter who wouldn't be trying to clear ropes while the team is in trouble, mind you.
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Post by VTR on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 1:45 pm

Its all a moot point re KP. His batting only really developed when he moved to England. So in fact the parallel universe is KP the off-spinner keeping Nicky Boje and Paul Harris out of the team!

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Post by KP_fan on Fri 27 Feb 2015, 2:03 pm

KP playing for SA woudl have blossomed into 30% better in-terms of results and probably their undisputed captain after Smith Cool Cool

he delivered all those performances INSPITE of Flower, Moores etal
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